Serious How is that modern day Slavs identify most with nazism out of anyone despite being thought of as Untermensch by Hitler?

[Babica Yaga]

When you look at CatboyKami's stream it's mostly Russians, Croats and Serbs watching him. Why is that these Slavs identify most with nazi ideology, despite Hitler thinking of them as Untermenschen? Though to be correct Hitler did not think that badly of Croats (Ustaše), because according to him they originated from the goths and were not Slavic people.

 

[Darkenzo]

Some of them did end up fighting for the Germans. The Germans went a bit laxer on their racial ideology when they were short of manpower. Also the Nazi's were anti-Communist and there's a history with the Soviets in that part of the world.

 

[Reddit_is_for_cucks]

It’s like black ppl supporting slavery. Some ppl just love the abuse

 

[Babica Yaga]

Is catboykami even a "Nazi"?, I'm not really sure if these people would actually call themselves that. But you're kinda right I guess

 

[Deleted member 19236]

Well, they probably are anticom to begin with it.
So that explains why they would support nazism.
Nothing new tbh, Russian ties to fascism predates WW2.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Though to be correct Hitler did not think that badly of Croats (Ustaše), because according to him they originated from the goths and were not Slavic people.

This paternalistic Aryan descent theory was a covert form of disdain for the Czechs, whom Hitler wanted to maintain as passive subjects of the Reich, much like his Austro-Hungarian homeland once did.

The desire to treat the Czechs like children of the Reich was chiefly motivated by economic and military concerns, given that Czechia had a major armaments manufacturing industry, which was duly appropriated after the Reich usurped its sovereignty.

If you look strictly at Hitler's personal affinities, it could be said that he had a higher opinion of the Poles than the Czechs, who successfully defeated the Soviet Union during the war of 1919-21, and had a more dictatorial and militaristic form of government (if aristocratic rather than fascistic).

While Czechoslovakia favored good relations and even an alliance with the Soviet Union, along with its French patrons, Poland had a much more anti-Soviet attitude (although technically neutral and non-partisan) and was closer with Britain rather than France. Note that Hitler himself much preferred Britain to France, and absolutely despised the Soviet Union.

For these reasons, Hitler found it more objectionable that Czechs were ruling over Austrians (his own ancestral people) in the Sudetenland than that Poles were ruling over Germans in East Prussia, such that there was greater potential for Poland to negotiate with Hitler and maintain some form of sovereignty under his hegemony (in the manner of Hungary) than there was potential for the Czechs to negotiate with Hitler.

Indeed, it should be remembered that both Hungary and Poland participated in the Reich's annexation of Czechoslovak lands.

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In a way, Hitler's brutal treatment of Poland after its relentless refusal to settle border disputes compares favorably to the peaceable situation in the "German protectorate" of Czechia (at least until the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich), implying the equality granted to an enemy rather than the exploitation offered to a friend, which served Poland better than Czechia in the long run.

 

[Irredeemable]

It's like self hating shitskins that worship whites and try to find any little thing to call themselves aryans or honorary whites.

@Irredeemable

tbh

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

I think the Slav untermensch stuff is cope. There were Russian divisions and shit in ww2. He did kill Slavs but they were communists and the same ppl who fucked over the German occupied territories in ww1

 

[Deleted member 31122]

I think the Slav untermensch stuff is cope. There were Russian divisions and shit in ww2. He did kill Slavs but they were communists and the same ppl who fucked over the German occupied territories in ww1

Because at that point Nazis started losing the war so they had to accept everyone who is willing to fight for them, SS initial requirements were more strict

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Because at that point Nazis started losing the war so they had to accept everyone who is willing to fight for them, SS initial requirements were more strict

oh the SS for sure, but not the wermacht. Plenty of what propoganda revisionist nazi germany considered “subhuman” were in the wermacht.

 

[Lone-Star]

Because they're the least cucked of the Europeans right now

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

It is cope. Himmler even gave a speech about the branches of the white race and included Slavs, didn't call them untermenschen. (I find it impossible to find Himmler speeches now, all results are a singular speech about the hollowhoax)

I've seen elsewhere either Himmler or Hitler said Russia was a great nation that succumbed to the untermenschen Jews and Bolsheviks.

The famous "untermenschen" poster is of German citizens (drunkards, retards, mentally ill).

Where does Hitler or Himmler directly call Slavs untermenschen, and what's the context?

I’m sure if he said it he means the mongoloid Slavs who are like Permians and shit all in the urals. There are Slavs who are non white but they’re not even rlly Slavs and more Mongolic

 

[Golden Blue]

Half of East Europeans suffer from some type of Fetal Alcohol disorder.

 

[Unsaveable]

Because mental gymnastics.

 

[Unsaveable]

It is cope. Himmler even gave a speech about the branches of the white race and included Slavs, didn't call them untermenschen. (I find it impossible to find Himmler speeches now, all results are a singular speech about the hollowhoax)

I've seen elsewhere either Himmler or Hitler said Russia was a great nation that succumbed to the untermenschen Jews and Bolsheviks.

The famous "untermenschen" poster is of German citizens (drunkards, retards, mentally ill).

Where does Hitler or Himmler directly call Slavs untermenschen, and what's the context?

I bet that speech was from 1943 when Germans were already feeling they were losing.

If Slavs were never considered lower humans by Hitlercels then what was the whole Eastern Living space deal about? what were they gonna displace and genocide Aryans? it's nonsense.

 

[solblue]

Because they are cucks. Men, just like foids, they will worship superior males even if the superior males despise them. On an unrelated note, I wonder just how much the inherent nature of a region's male populace influences the governance of the region.

 

[Greyjediincel]

It is cope. Himmler even gave a speech about the branches of the white race and included Slavs, didn't call them untermenschen. (I find it impossible to find Himmler speeches now, all results are a singular speech about the hollowhoax)

I've seen elsewhere either Himmler or Hitler said Russia was a great nation that succumbed to the untermenschen Jews and Bolsheviks.

The famous "untermenschen" poster is of German citizens (drunkards, retards, mentally ill).

Where does Hitler or Himmler directly call Slavs untermenschen, and what's the context?

The entire idea of the "master race" is based on mistranslation and often repeated lies about Hitler's ideology.

I'm not saying the Nazis didn't unfairly target Jews that had nothing to do with Zionist subversion, and I'm not saying that Nazism or any form of dictatorship is good, but there are many facets of WW2 that are exaggerated and lied about in order to prop up the current American Imperial Order in the West.

 

[wasted12years]

They still have racial slavic pride and they aren't as cucked and materialistic as lets say Scandinavians. Since national socialist often has violence and skinnhead culture in their groups the slavs are drawn to that. I mean what else are they gonna follow and worship? Jarilo and Perun? They wouldn't get as much followers if they didn't stick to the swastika.

 

[Unsaveable]

It was given to the SS, don't remember the date, but I believe it was the late 30s.

Also it's no different than the English conquering the Scottish, Welsh and Irish. The USSR had huge amounts of potential farmland. Thinking the Nazis just wanted to genocide all other races is the nonsense.

English conquering Welsh and Irish wasn't on Ethinc bases it happened before nationalism was a thing.

Meanwhile Hitler in his book literally clear as a day states that Slavs need to be displaced from their homes and turned into second class citizens, everything else is mental gymnastics.


'The real frontier is the one that separates the Germanic world from the Slav world. It is our duty to place it where we want it to be. If anyone asks where we obtain the right to extend the Germanic space to the east, we reply that, for a nation, its awareness of what it represents carries this right with it. It is success that justifies everything. The reply to such questions can only be of an empirical nature. It is inconceivable that a higher people should painfully exist on a soil too narrow for it, while amorphous masses, which contribute nothing to civilization, occupy infinite tracts of a soil that is one of the richest in the world ...

We must create conditions for our people that favour its multiplication, and we must, at the same time, build a dike against the Russian flood ... Since there is no natural protection against such a flood, we must meet it with a living wall. A permanent war on the eastern front will help form a sound race of men, and will prevent us from relapsing into the softness of a Europe thrown back upon itself. It should be possible for us to control this region to the east with two hundred and fifty thousand men, plus a cadre of good administrators ...

This space in Russia must always be dominated by Germans.'

 

[Deleted member 28148]

Because they're the least cucked of the Europeans right now

 

[ElliotRodgerHere]

If hitler didn't like slavs what do you think his feelings on niggers were

 

[Deleted member 24272]

Self hate and self cuck

 

[Unsaveable]

English treated the Irish terribly well into the 20th century and the Irish only won their freedom through terrorism.

BTW I believe that is a fabricated quote.

I didn't say they didn't treat them horribly but English certainly didn't consider Irish or Scottish to be lower form of human neither did they have any 'living space' ideas.

Even it is a fabricated quote (doubtful) the whole Nazi ideology and Hitler's own writings was centred specifically on German supremacy Slavs were considered lower class of non Germans, in fact they were frequently referred to as 'Asiatics' Germans didn't even consider them to be Europeans unlike like the Poles for example.(who they also considered to be below Germans)

German state ideology, propaganda, their racial theory, words of their higher ups, and most importantly their actions made Slavs and especially Russians out to be literal Mongol rape babies who deserved to be gassed.

 

[Unsaveable]

@Uggo Mongo



Are you Russian? why are you coping this hard?

 

[Unsaveable]

No but I do believe that you are Jewish. You even started a Jew loving thread.

No i'm not Jewish neither am i German or Russian which is why i can easily state that Germans hated both Poles and Russians without any agenda.

The fact that it's news to you that Germans considered themselves above Slavs is nothing short of funny to me, educate yourself.

 

[Unsaveable]

They did consider themselves above Slavs, just like they considered themselves above Italians etc. Just like the English considered themselves above Irish. Just like how Americans of Anglo extract such as Benjamin Franklin considered themselves above Germans.

And you are a jew, (((no agenda))).

Everyone who disagrees with me is a jew theory.

 

[Unsaveable]

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How fragile.

Are you feeling safe in your echo chamber?

 

[Unsaveable]

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Le memerinos that will show em!



You're prob a coping slav, which explains why you're acting defensive.

 

[Cowcel]

they might be ironic edgelords

 

[Selinity]

Supporting system of beliefs that claims that you are subhuman is gigacucked

People do cured shit all the time, not surprising

 

[Unsaveable]

no you can't just reply with memes, memes are antisemitic!!
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Cooope.

 

[Unsaveable]

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Hitler wanted to gas slavs.

Now get triggered.

 

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Wanna guess who those soldiers are in the background?

 

[Unsaveable]

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No matter how you spin it they were (mostly) Russian soldiers and Germans portrayed them as savage people.

Germans exterminated whole villages in Russia and Belarus and you're here opening your fat mouth trying to lecture me, your ignorance knows no limits.

 

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[curryboy420]

Is catboykami even a "Nazi"?, I'm not really sure if these people would actually call themselves that. But you're kinda right I guess

he is not, just a cuck who simps for ethnic foids. there are a lot of eastern euro soyboys who like that kind of gay shit

 

[Unsaveable]

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Idk if you seriously think I'm a Jew because I said Hitler hated Slavs.

In your previous post you said that Hitler said that Russia was a fallen great nation but there's one problem with that... Hitler regarded Russia as a Germanic ruled country and again nowhere in mein kampf does Hitler praise the Russian people.

But there is a perfect explanation to that.


Nazi Slavic policy was never comprehensive or coherent ; the Nazi leadership were perfectly fine with Slavic people who aided overall German war aims and who did not happen to live in prospective Lebensraum. Slavic nationalities who did live on what was considered future Lebensraum or who actively resisted Axis military or occupational forces were essentially marked for destruction. For this reason, the Bulgarians, Croatians and Slovakians were granted autonomy and ultimate self-preservation, while the Poles, Czechs, Russians, Ukrainians etc. were to be eradicated.

Even within the Nazi party's leadership, attitudes towards Slavs were not unified or coherent. Some like Rosenberg were incredibly anti-Slav while Hermann Goering was surprisingly less prejudiced (he admired the Poles for their military resistance against Bolshevism and wrote the forward for the German edition of Marshal Pilsudski's collected works). Even as late as 1938, a Nazi Nuremberg Rally pamphlet listed the Slavs as an 'Indo-Germanic' people alongside the Germanic and Celtic peoples.

Nazi Slavic policy was thus inconsistent and malleable, and was often changed and reworked according to circumstance. They would attribute 'Germanicness' to Slavs whenever it was politically convenient, such as when Cossack units deserted to the Axis or when the Soviet Army began to reorganize and gain the upper hand (Himmler once claimed that Stalin must have been a lost Aryan despot akin to Genghis Khan). During the war, Hitler and Himmler became convinced that the 'Slavic race' was actually a social construct devised by the Imperial Russian Pan-Slavists and that Slavs could be reduced into a multitude of racial sub-types. The goal of this move was to destroy any claim to Polish, Russian or Ukrainian nationality and to play Slavic communities against each other by favouring the more 'Germanic' ones.

That's all I have to say.

 

[CaveManSupreme]

Idk if you seriously think I'm a Jew because I said Hitler hated Slavs.

In your previous post you said that Hitler said that Russia was a fallen great nation but there's one problem with that... Hitler regarded Russia as a Germanic ruled country and again nowhere in mein kampf does Hitler praise the Russian people.

But there is a perfect explanation to that.


Nazi Slavic policy was never comprehensive or coherent ; the Nazi leadership were perfectly fine with Slavic people who aided overall German war aims and who did not happen to live in prospective Lebensraum. Slavic nationalities who did live on what was considered future Lebensraum or who actively resisted Axis military or occupational forces were essentially marked for destruction. For this reason, the Bulgarians, Croatians and Slovakians were granted autonomy and ultimate self-preservation, while the Poles, Czechs, Russians, Ukrainians etc. were to be eradicated.

Even within the Nazi party's leadership, attitudes towards Slavs were not unified or coherent. Some like Rosenberg were incredibly anti-Slav while Hermann Goering was surprisingly less prejudiced (he admired the Poles for their military resistance against Bolshevism and wrote the forward for the German edition of Marshal Pilsudski's collected works). Even as late as 1938, a Nazi Nuremberg Rally pamphlet listed the Slavs as an 'Indo-Germanic' people alongside the Germanic and Celtic peoples.

Nazi Slavic policy was thus inconsistent and malleable, and was often changed and reworked according to circumstance. They would attribute 'Germanicness' to Slavs whenever it was politically convenient, such as when Cossack units deserted to the Axis or when the Soviet Army began to reorganize and gain the upper hand (Himmler once claimed that Stalin must have been a lost Aryan despot akin to Genghis Khan). During the war, Hitler and Himmler became convinced that the 'Slavic race' was actually a social construct devised by the Imperial Russian Pan-Slavists and that Slavs could be reduced into a multitude of racial sub-types. The goal of this move was to destroy any claim to Polish, Russian or Ukrainian nationality and to play Slavic communities against each other by favouring the more 'Germanic' ones.

That's all I have to say.

didn't read don't care truth doesn't really matter anyway even if it is or isn't true

 

[Unsaveable]

OK, rabbi.

0 arguments.

Ok whatever then, bye.

 

[shavvka]

Slavs just like edgy humor for some reason

 

[Unsaveable]

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"Why won't you argue with my wall of text you didn't read after I started throwing out buzzwords like coping oy vey oy gevalt"

But you are coping tho.

1st cope is thinking i'm a kike, 2nd cope is declaring things to be fake without evidence.

If you want to respond with 'jew meme img' then don't respond at all because i'm not a Jew and it just makes you look dumb.

 

[Unsaveable]

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How do Jews live so rent free in your mind?

Legit any Opposition to your worldviews makes someone a jew? what a convenient mindset lol.

I guess by that logic every Polish and Belarusian nationalist is also Jewish since they say Germans raped their country.

 

[VindalooCell]

I think the Slav untermensch stuff is cope. There were Russian divisions and shit in ww2. He did kill Slavs but they were communists and the same ppl who fucked over the German occupied territories in ww1

He made exceptions, iirc some Slavs were deemed to be suitable for Germanisation (they kidnapped some Slavic children and raised them as German) but most were looked down upon by the German leadership.

 

[Unsaveable]

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Your problem is you're looking at Hitler and Nazi Germany as saviours of white race while what they really wanted was for Germans to Mog every other white people.

Eastern Slavs in Nazi vision shouldn't exist they are to be Germanized, i don't know why you can't accept that.

 

[VindalooCell]

If hitler didn't like slavs what do you think his feelings on niggers were

He didn't care much about them, he did express anger at racemixing between German women and Moorish troops stationed in the occupied Rhineland by the French after Germany's defeat in WW1 but they never really took up much of his mental space as non-whites then were fairly irrelevant and the competition was between Europeans. This latter part is why there is a lot of cope on the part of white nationalists when it comes to Hitler, because most of his designs were directed against white people.

Hitler wanted to gas slavs.

Now get triggered.

Read this interesting article.

Hitler vs. the <i>Untermenschen</i>

Myth & Reality

www.unz.com

 

[Unsaveable]

He made exceptions, iirc some Slavs were deemed to be suitable for Germanisation (they kidnapped some Slavic children and raised them as German) but most were looked down upon by the German leadership.

That's because he didn't consider Slavs to be a wider ethnic group like Germanic or Celtic, he thought Slavs were mishmash of Aryan Germanic people and non Aryan Mongolic people that's why Western Ukrainians and some Russians were accepted into the SS.

 

[VindalooCell]

That's because he didn't consider Slavs to be a wider ethnic group like Germanic or Celtic, he thought Slavs were mishmash of Aryan Germanic people and non Aryan Mongolic people that's why Western Ukrainians and some Russians were accepted into the SS.

Apparently Hitler wasn't even really into this racial stuff, it was more party ideologies like Rosenberg (what a name) and Himmler.

 

[Unsaveable]

Apparently Hitler wasn't even really into this racial stuff, it was more party ideologies like Rosenberg (what a name) and Himmler.

I mean from his German point of view he was a good guy and wanted best for his people, can't deny that.

But what about his Neighbours? did they want to be part of his Reich? that's where the problem lies.

He wasn't all that racially charged for his time i agree, what he really was was a German supremacist that's all.


@VindalooCell imo what Hitler should've done was to create a federation between European states not conquer everyone by force.

This way he would've got Germany to dominate Europe but it would be without bloodshed.

 

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Hitler didn't want to Germanize slavs?

Stop embarrassing yourself.

 

[Unsaveable]

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German crimes in Poland=Made up jew lie

German crimes in Russia=Made up jew lie

German crimes in Belarus which lost 25% of its population during the war=made up jew lie

I can't with this logic.