Serious How important is frame?

[Anglo-Saxon]

And are you allowed to ask for ratings on a frame photo (without face ofc)?

I always thought it was on equal footing with height, both complementing each other as the second most important trait behind face.

 

[Spite]

Don't be manlet, don't be lanklet

 

[StormlitAqua]

Less important than the following:

- Face/hair
- Height
- NT Status
- Social Circle
- Voice

Overall, maybe 5-10% of total SMV.

 

[Anglo-Saxon]

Don't be manlet, don't be lanklet

I think I'm a lanket, what are some measurement guidelines to be sure?

Less important than the following:

- Face/hair
- Height
- NT Status
- Social Circle
- Voice

Overall, maybe 5-10% of total SMV.

Voice is probably bullshit to be honest, there were a lot of deep voiced incels on gaming TeamSpeaks back in the day

 

[EthnicelNL]

Dont be short and dont have weak shoulders theory.

 

[_incelinside]

Frame is underrated. not just shoulders and wrists. the size of you skull too. horizontal bone development is as important as height imo

 

[Felix97]

Frame is underrated. not just shoulders and wrists. the size of you skull too. horizontal bone development is as important as height imo

What purpose has skull mogging if your face sucks?

Dont be short and dont have weak shoulders theory.

best theory

Less important than the following:

- Face/hair
- Height
- NT Status
- Social Circle
- Voice

Overall, maybe 5-10% of total SMV.

totally agreed

 

[StormlitAqua]

totally agreed

Frame is a retard-tier cope. There are guys 6'+ here bitching about their frame. ----------------> https://lookism.net/index.php

Also, IDK if you knew this but you were member #6666. Nice digits.

 

[Felix97]

Frame is a retard-tier cope. There are guys 6'+ here bitching about their frame. ----------------> https://lookism.net/index.php

Ikr. The importance of frame is a joke compared to NTness and voice as u said. People like to underestimate it a lot.

Also, IDK if you knew this but you were member #6666. Nice digits.

Yea, someone told me before. Good catch. Member# mogging y'all

 

[_incelinside]

What purpose has skull mogging if your face sucks?

best theory

totally agreed

Assuming face is equal

 

[EARTH]

Frame is a huge part of male dimorphism. In other words, it is a huge part in looking sexually attractive to the opposite sex.

Let's not cope.

 

[chainsawcel]

Frame is a huge part of male dimorphism. In other words, it is a huge part in looking sexually attractive to the opposite sex.

Let's not cope.

this tbhngl
@Zyros

 

[Zyros]

this tbhngl
@Zyros

Yes, I see guys witj below average faces or oldcels get laid a lot jsut because they got a good frame.

 

[averageblokecel]

@Bagelcel tell him

If you have a shitty frame gymcelling will not solve shit for you, someone with a bigger frame will always look bigger then you, with small frame you will never be able to intimidate and if you are an ectomorph you will be a hardgainer (I'm struggling to gain weight eating 3300 kcal a day ffs)

 

[Bagelcel]

@Bagelcel tell him

If you have a shitty frame gymcelling will not solve shit for you, someone with a bigger frame will always look bigger then you, with small frame you will never be able to intimidate and if you are an ectomorph you will be a hardgainer (I'm struggling to gain weight eating 3300 kcal a day ffs)

You're fine with your frame because you have wide shoulders tbh..

But i'd 100% say that frame is very important, arguably more important than height (unless you're under 5ft8) if we don't take manlets into account frame is second only to face.
There's nothing more domineering than a guy with a big frame, guys with big frame are respected more too.
Many studies have also shown that wide shoulders make up the bulk of your bodies attractiveness, even WELL above height.

 

[averageblokecel]

You're fine with your frame because you have wide shoulders tbh..

But i'd 100% say that frame is very important, arguably more important than height (unless you're under 5ft8) if we don't take manlets into account frame is second only to face.
There's nothing more domineering than a guy with a big frame, guys with big frame are respected more too.
Many studies have also shown that wide shoulders make up the bulk of your bodies attractiveness, even WELL above height.

Also a study showed that men with a 1.61 shoulder-waist ratio where >50% more attractive than those without it

 

[Bagelcel]

Frame is underrated. not just shoulders and wrists. the size of you skull too. horizontal bone development is as important as height imo

Very true, all these things are VITAL even more so than height.
When a woman says i want a tall man, they don't mean a tall narrow guy.. They mean a tall BROAD guy.

If i were to rate what's most important in terms of SMV i'd say it'd be something like
-50% face
-30% frame
-20% height
(only applicable to those over 5ft8)

Also a study showed that men with a 1.61 shoulder-waist ratio where >50% more attractive than those without it

Ofcourse, the closer you are to the golden ratio the more sexually attractive you'll be perceived.
ironically gymcelling won't change this massively... 75% of your body attractiveness is already predetermined due to your frame... you can only work on about 25%.
That being said i encourage anyone to workout and not LDAR because 25% is worthwhile enough to workout for.

 

[Evildoer]

Frame is nearly always heavily understimated by many users here, and nobody suddenly seem to think that if your hips are wider than shoulder that's a purest death sentence, it virtually reduces all your SMV to zero, much like recessed chin or negative canthal tilt does.

 

[Hunter]

important as its part of the looks quadrant but not as important as face, race and height.