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It's Over How I lost 80% of my Net Worth in one day

Limerencel

Limerencel

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At the height of the Cambridge Analytical scandal, when the stock was at its bottom, I had bought long positions in Facebook via leveraged derivatives, with a multiplier of 2.5x. This multiplier makes it so that if Facebook goes up 10%, I go up 25%. If Facebook goes down 10%, I go down 25%.

I'm a an opportunist. I've only bought securities a handful of times in my life, and I usually hold on to them for years. I figured it was a risky but well calculated bet. Zuck testified in Congres, offered solutions and promised (((them))) to be a good boy. The scandal was forgotten, and days later Facebook posted excellent Q1 2018 results. Needless to say I made a hefty profit.

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But a few months later, the continuing success of these derivatives had made me arrogant. Instead of holding on to my 2.5x leveraged derivatives, I thought I would sell them all, and buy the 4.5x leveraged ones instead, exactly the day before Facebook released its quarterly report.
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At this point, I was no longer investing, I was trading, which goes against my own principles. But Facebook usually surpasses both their own forecast, and analysts expectations (surprise factor).
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So if history was any indication, this would have been a risky, but worthwhile bet.

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And during the height Cambridge Analytica scandal, Facebook "only" lost around 19% of its value relative to its peak.
Surely, nothing that bad could happen right? My derivatives were 27% away from its Knock Out price. Meaning that it would take another scandal a la Cambridge Analytica, and then some, before I would loose all my money. But it didn't even matter because everyone expected Facebook to post excellent Q2 results.

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Facebook released its Q2 2018 report :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelscry::feelscry:.

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Pass me the rope buddy boyo. A nigga can't cope no mo :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsrope::feelsrope:
 
its over for stock retards
 
If you want to trade then you must be prepared to be the first to jump off the boat when such a thing as a balance report happens.
 
What was your actual loss...thousands, ten thousands..more?
 
Haha get destroyed kikecel. Dont have the attention span to read through your post right now but I can appreciate the effort that seems to have gone into it.
 
This is why I don't speculate for income. I don't think I could ever live with myself losing that much over a decision I made. I am all about wealth accrual, not sharp rises and falls. Slow and steady wins the race, the 1 out of 1000 millionaires/billionaires are exceptions to the rule.
 
Sorry I am low IQ, does that mean that you don’t have any access to your money and loose your stocks when FB falls over 30%?
 
80% of my net worth is about 80$ :feelsokman:
 
Haha get destroyed kikecel. Dont have the attention span to read through your post right now but I can appreciate the effort that seems to have gone into it.
Feel the same, I associate rich stock trading with jewish bastards, because I am from a rural area and work with my hands, does anyone other than jew bastards have lots of money and trade shares? I don't even know how to buy shares.
 
Feel the same, I associate rich stock trading with jewish bastards, because I am from a rural area and work with my hands, does anyone other than jew bastards have lots of money and trade shares? I don't even know how to buy shares.
I am poor and have always been poor. In hindsight, the title should not have contained the term "Net Worth", it suggests otherwise and sounds braggadocious.
But you shouldn't blame your own incompetence retardation on others. Anyone could sign up to a broker and buy stocks.
 
I know that feel bro. That's how it is to be poor and speculating, you must take a lot of precautions. Contrary to (((others))), you're not "too big to fail". Were you cautious or did you put all your eggs in this risky asset ? Tbh honest I wouldn't put more than 1/4 of the money I own in my portfolio of risky stuffs. I'm not even at 1/4 at the moment, but still I think it's too much.

Feel the same, I associate rich stock trading with jewish bastards, because I am from a rural area and work with my hands, does anyone other than jew bastards have lots of money and trade shares? I don't even know how to buy shares.

I used to think the same, but then I discovered we could make bucks out of thin air by playing their game. So I said to myself why not give it a try.
 
I know that feel bro. That's how it is to be poor and speculating, you must take a lot of precautions. Contrary to (((others))), you're not "too big to fail". Were you cautious or did you put all your eggs in this risky asset ? Tbh honest I wouldn't put more than 1/4 of the money I own in my portfolio of risky stuffs. I'm not even at 1/4 at the moment, but still I think it's too much.

You know that feel, so which stock did you loose to?
I literally put all my eggs in one basket. Right before I made the deal, I asked a smart friend about his thoughts.

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He gave me solid advise but I was too blind. You can see how arrogant and stupid I was. I learned my lesson, though :feelsbadman:.

I've always done it like this. With Apple from 2010- Febr 2014, I made a hefty profit with leveraged derivatives. Then I held nothing for a while. Now I stepped into Facebook at a great moment during Cambridge Analytica scandal. I shouldn't have doubled the leverage the day before quarterly report :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::incel::incel::incel::incel:
 
You know that feel, so which stock did you loose to?
I literally put all my eggs in one basket. Right before I made the deal, I asked a smart friend about his thoughts.

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He gave me solid advise but I was too blind. You can see how arrogant and stupid I was. I learned my lesson, though :feelsbadman:.

I've always done it like this. With Apple from 2010- Febr 2014, I made a hefty profit with leveraged derivatives. Then I held nothing for a while. Now I stepped into Facebook at a great moment during Cambridge Analytica scandal. I shouldn't have doubled the leverage the day before quarterly report :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::feelsrope::incel::incel::incel::incel:
You really had a bad luck, but also a poor strategy. Your friend was wise indeed. Diversification in investments does work better in the long run, even if it doesn't seem to be the easiest way to make quick money.

I have cryptocurrencies as risky assets. I had a tough luck during the bull market last year. I was too greedy. I bought tons of monero that was in a range situation by that time, in order to sell some later, while it was obvious I should have sold literally everything I already had according to the weekly main dynamic and indicators. The whole market lost on average 10-20% in the next hours and the brutal bearish cycle of the end of the year began. I didn't lose everything because I already secured some profits, but still that was a stupid decision.
 
Wouldn't you say that crypto's are a textbook bubble?
Tbh, nobody knows what it is, even people who know a lot on the subject (unless you want me to make the well known definition everybody can find on wikipedia lol). Dataprocessing used to be a bubble made by weird geeks in their mother's garage, now the whole world see it as the thing that revolutionized the economy. Facebook, google, amazon, microsoft and other enterprises are now traded as respectable assets.

Institutional are now more and more interested in cryptocurrencies btw, so it can be the sign that they see some value in it. It can be the future of money, or just another interesting venture to explore for a certain time, an empty bubble. Nobody really knows. But I think something will ultimately come out of the concept of blockchain, not necessarly something related to cryptocurrencies (although chances are high), but something nonetheless.

So many great minds are working on these subjects, I can't imagine all they are doing will be worth nothing in the end.
 
id really love to invest but shit like this happens. even stefan molyneux pokes fun at people losing their life savings to bitcoin.
 
id really love to invest but shit like this happens. even stefan molyneux pokes fun at people losing their life savings to bitcoin.
Don't invest your whole life savings. Invest what you're eventually willing to lose. 5 or 10% is already a good beginning tbh.
 
That's what happened with telecoms some decades ago. It's just a cycle. However, Amazon shares are now more expensive than they were during the last bubble. So it's hard to tell.
That's a false equivalency.
Nearly everyone who owns Bitcoin, or other crypto's, holds it only to sell it at some later point when the price is even more inflated. There is no other value. Telecom corporations help people connect with each other. Amazon sells actual products. Real companies have intrinsic value other than the outlook of an inflated stock price.
 
At the height of the Cambridge Analytical scandal, when the stock was at its bottom, I had bought long positions in Facebook via leveraged derivatives, with a multiplier of 2.5x. This multiplier makes it so that if Facebook goes up 10%, I go up 25%. If Facebook goes down 10%, I go down 25%.

I'm a an opportunist. I've only bought securities a handful of times in my life, and I usually hold on to them for years. I figured it was a risky but well calculated bet. Zuck testified in Congres, offered solutions and promised (((them))) to be a good boy. The scandal was forgotten, and days later Facebook posted excellent Q1 2018 results. Needless to say I made a hefty profit.

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But a few months later, the continuing success of these derivatives had made me arrogant. Instead of holding on to my 2.5x leveraged derivatives, I thought I would sell them all, and buy the 4.5x leveraged ones instead, exactly the day before Facebook released its quarterly report.
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At this point, I was no longer investing, I was trading, which goes against my own principles. But Facebook usually surpasses both their own forecast, and analysts expectations (surprise factor).
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So if history was any indication, this would have been a risky, but worthwhile bet.

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And during the height Cambridge Analytica scandal, Facebook "only" lost around 19% of its value relative to its peak.
Surely, nothing that bad could happen right? My derivatives were 27% away from its Knock Out price. Meaning that it would take another scandal a la Cambridge Analytica, and then some, before I would loose all my money. But it didn't even matter because everyone expected Facebook to post excellent Q2 results.

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Facebook released its Q2 2018 report :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelscry::feelscry:.

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Pass me the rope buddy boyo. A nigga can't cope no mo :feelsbadman::feelsbadman::feelsrope::feelsrope:
Didn't you call me low IQ for buying crypto at one point?

Brb, making easy profits.
Brb, not losing 80% of my net worth.
 
That's a false equivalency.
Nearly everyone who owns Bitcoin, or other crypto's, holds it only to sell it at some later point when the price is even more inflated. There is no other value. Telecom corporations help people connect with each other. Amazon sells actual products. Real companies have intrinsic value other than the outlook of an inflated stock price.
Gold is also a store of value, as is real-estate or art to some extent. Cryptocurrencies' value can't be calculated the same way we do with company shares value. But there's a value nonetheless. Their value can be based on several different factors, like for instance scarcity, current usefulness, technologies behind the project, indexing, potential uses etc ... It really depends on each project though.
 
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Didn't you call me low IQ for buying crypto at one point?

Brb, making easy profits.
Brb, not losing 80% of my net worth.
I will still call you low IQ for buying crypto.
 
I will still call you low IQ for buying crypto.
Well, that's just your opinion man. As a student I made more money "out of thin air" than by working alongside my college studies. Cryptocurrencies are risky and quite a venture business for now of course, but as long as you're careful, it can be quite profitable and a good investment in the long run.
 
Well, that's just your opinion man. As a student I made more money "out of thin air" than by working alongside my college studies. Cryptocurrencies are risky and quite a venture business for now of course, but as long as you're careful, it can be quite profitable and a good investment in the long run.

Lol, market is brutal now and has been for a while. Got burned like many so no choice but to hold.
 
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Lol, market is brutal now and has been for a while. Got burned like many so no choice but to hold.
Yeah, people needed to short and swing trade during the past 6 months. Tbh it's normal, winter is quite harsh in general and the recent huge growth had to meet an expected correction somehow. Once it will end, the pump cycle will be healtier.
 

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