Good for you, man. Traveling is one of the best copes ever. I have fond memories of all the places I've visited, even when I went alone.
money doesn't solve everything
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Estranged brother, senile mother, dead father. That's my family.
Then why do most Incels come from high population leftist city areas, which tend to be more hypergamous and marxist than rural areas? It's almost as if it has to do with where you live or something.
It can be, and only slayers who are lying about being Incel disagree.
Would for me.
Low effort post ngl.
>Then why do most Incels come from high population leftist city areas, which tend to be more hypergamous and marxist than rural areas? It's almost as if it has to do with where you live or something.
They don't, wtf are you talking about? Most incels are from countries like China, India and so on. You either have superior genetics or you don't. What's with the unreasonable complication of such a simple concept?
>It can be, and only slayers who are lying about being Incel disagree.
Ah yes, the good old "I don't have any counterarguments so I'll just imply that you are a fakecel for disagreeing with me" gimmick.No it can't be. It's just an even worse version of betabuxxing. And betabuxxing is basically escortcelling except that you invest a lot more and get a lot less in return. Not my idea of ascension for sure.
I'm sorry for you, man.
No, for me it's like an incel doing normie activities (minus the women).
All of those are impossible if you are incel and have crippling social anxiety along with depression (i won't even mention if you live in shithole you won't earn enough money to travel). How can you not be depressed by coming to other cities/countries and seeing happy couples? It's giga suicide fuel.
The only way I can answer that is that to say there are different levels of inceldom and social anxiety. I'm pretty bad, but apparently there are members here who are much worse. It's so severe for some of them, they can barely leave their house. When I first started taking up traveling over 10 years ago, I was anxious as fuck. But, I managed to make it through those first few trips. After a while, I became like a cosmopolitan travel expert (despite having my aspie meltdowns from time to time).
Seeing happy couples in different cities is no different than seeing happy couples in my own city.
Yeah i'm sure someone with 19 posts at the time of this reply has interacted with more Incels than I have. From back when I was on on /r9k/ before it got destroyed by homosexuals and traps, to now there has been one common theme between ALMOST every Incel I have run into in various parts of the world. Don't get me wrong there are some exceptions, but exceptions are why the rule exists. Incels almost ALWAYS tend to be Incel because of where they live, whether they realize it or not, and where they live tend to be really hypergamous urban leftist high population city areas.
In these areas women are statistically much more likely to be promiscuous, which in turn increases the probability of hypergamy, and thus makes Inceldom much more common. Of course moving to a better area isn't an easy solution, but many people, including people who are sub 5 including non whites, have done experiments in various rural areas/other countries, such as various states in Middle America, Eastern Europe, Asia, etc and concluded that Inceldom is very dependent on where you live.
Ah yes, it's not as if we can't track evolutionarily that women are attracted to looks, money, and status, thus having ANY of the 3 would mean you're not Incel or something, hmm.
There are plenty of ways to ascend with money without having to result to a gold digger, the only people who deny this are people who aren't actually Incel OBJECTIVELY, from a scientific and evolutionary metric, and want to live a hedonistic lifestyle.
It's not where you live; it's how you look.
True. Elliot had money and his parents had status but he never got any.
Pretty high IQ. Even though I moved from near a large city to a small town, and there is still hypergamy here, I can see that as being a legit theory. There were literal Chadlites at my school who never got laid, but they definitely would if they moved here.
It's useless to cover up your low IQ and lack of arguments with braindead ad hominem which I already called you out on or convolution of your non-existent points into an unreadable psychobabble.
>Yeah i'm sure someone with 19 posts at the time of this reply has interacted with more Incels than I have.
Look you fucking Mariana Trench IQ retard: here is my reddit account:
https://www.reddit.com/user/ReasonableResolver/
I know that because you have fetal alcohol syndrome you are too low IQ to think about the possibility that maybe I am from a different incel space? But no you have to make up for your low IQ by pointing out my post count which I couldn't care less about. As if me having high or low post count changes anything about the correctness of either of our arguments. Retard.
>From back when I was on on /r9k/ before it got destroyed by homosexuals and traps,
A continuation of the "Hurr durr I'm older than you I've been on 4chan before it was cool n shieeeet" retardedness. Completely irrelevant.
> to now there has been one common theme between ALMOST every Incel I have run into in various parts of the world.
And how many have you really ran into? Do you know how many leftover men there are in China? Leaving aside the other parts of the world which is a huge strech in and of itself, how many of those men have you "ran" into, let alone actually gained insight into their lives?
>Don't get me wrong there are some exceptions, but exceptions are why the rule exists. Incels almost ALWAYS tend to be Incel because of where they live, whether they realize it or not, and where they live tend to be really hypergamous urban leftist high population city areas.
The definition and context of leftist is debatable, if you consider China etc. left-leaning countries then I'd probably agree with you on this.
>In these areas women are statistically much more likely to be promiscuous, which in turn increases the probability of hypergamy, and thus makes Inceldom much more common.
Right, but it doesn't change the fundamental cause of inceldom, which is inferior genetics.
>Ah yes, it's not as if we can't track evolutionarily that women are attracted to looks, money, and status, thus having ANY of the 3 would mean you're not Incel or something, hmm.
Money is a new invention in an evolutionary timeline and does not have the same underlying features as looks. A foid being with a man for his money and a foid being with a man for his looks are completely on different scales.
If you think that money is going to solve jackshit you are outright delusional. She will fuck Chad behind your back while you slave away at work and will leave you the instant your financial situation goes bad. Is this your idea of an ideal relationship? JFL.
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I would rather invest money into surgery then travelling.
Surgery isn't going to catapult you into the realm of Chad tier status. It will just make you look like a less ugly incel, or a low-tier normie, at best. Besides, my particular issue that affects my facial appearance cannot be solved by surgery. It's much more complex than that.
Sure, but depending on where you live, hypergamy is much less rampant. For example someone who is a 6/10 where I live might have trouble getting a partner at all, and if they do somehow manage to get a partner they'll probably be sub 4, at least if they're not black, however someone who is a 4/10 in lets say, Rural Montana, has a much higher chance of getting his looksmatch. Locations/Sexual Markets matter a lot, and if you have money you can not only move to an area where its much less hypergamous and much more likely to get a looksmatch, you can also show off you're economically stable, which is different from showing you're rich, which is what attracts gold diggers, aswell as cosmetic surgery to increase your looks rank by 1-4 points depending on what your problems are with looks.
In other words, if you have money you're not Incel, period.
He says as he makes no arguments, and flings out more logical fallacies than I ever did, here we go chief.
Ah yes, even the Incel reddits had circle jerk problems, because of the nature of the website, the type of people Reddit attracts I would not say is representative of Incels as a whole, most Incels don't even use this forum, or like to be associated with the word because of Reddit.
You seem pretty worked up, are you okay my dude?
Except its not really irrelevant because there were vastly more Incels on 4chan than than there were on reddit, and it was around for a lot longer and people talked about these issues for quite a long time, without the circle jerking aswell because there wasn't any upvotes on downvotes like on leddit
Thousands, and no not really, most Incels I ran into were White or Asians who were born in the west, and typically were forced to live in multicultural areas, where they couldn't compete sexually. Asians do the worst in urban areas where they don't form a community, but most Incels I ran into were white overall, maybe that was the nature of where I went to online, and met other people with Incel related problems, who knows.
Yeah i'd consider China leftist, and yes I know its really bad there for a lot of guys, however I also know Rich Chinese men do very well there, I have seen examples of Chinese men getting with women who mog them and are of a higher tier, of course this is probably gold digging, I know gold digging is a massive problem in China, perhaps if your only metric for money in relation to attracting women is Chinese women, it's no wonder why you think it completely doesn't matter at all because of the culture of lying, stealing, gold digging, betrayal, etc. Well suffice to say not every sexual market is like that.
Boiling it down to inferior genetics isn't necessarily a fair assessment, its more like sexual markets have devolved to a state where women are choosing a partner based on primitive selection bias, so on the looks side of things, they typically will select for men who display warrior characteristics, however money and status can display stability which can decently override looks to a decent degree, also as I said the less hypergamous the area, and the more culturally stable and not destroyed by Marxism, aka basically nowhere in China, nowhere in any Urban City in the west, etc, hypergamy runs a lot less rampant and this is important to note.
You'd be surprised at how fast people evolve in just a 100 years, let alone 1000 years, let alone 10,000 years, when it comes to things like these.
As I said, I understand why you think this why if your only Metric is Chinese women, however in other sexual markets, there are ways to display your wealth and attracting a stable non gold digging partner, which is why I stand by my point that if you have money, you're not an Incel.
I've been to rural villages all over the world, and the instinctual reaction I've gotten from foids in these places has been the same: They either glare at me dismissively, or they simply avoid eye contact with me altogether. That right there speaks volumes about how they feel about me, and it doesn't vary one bit from what I get in big cities in the U.S.. Femoids are a facsimile of each other all over all the world.
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I traveled quite a bit across Middle america a few years ago at the expense of a friend of mine who wanted to travel together with some other friends aswell, and I live in L.A, I have never seen a more hypergamous expensive trap of a shithole that's almost impossible to escape from than where I live in all of America, and almost always here is what I saw across multiple states when it comes to sexual markets/inceldom, the more urban and high population an area was, the worse the women were, and I already explained why that was, and when I have seen various rural towns, take a look at this map,
The funny thing was I discovered this map quite a bit after I did the travelling, and it correlates very well with hypergamous areas, basically anywhere on the map you see that has a fuck ton of blue dots, or is significantly close to blue dots, those are hellholes and can even make some Chad Lites Incel, Especially Southern California, Florida, and almost the entire East Coast, (I couldn't comment on Florida, or New York Specifically tho because I have never been there, but in my experience across multiple states no city or urban area was as bad as L.A)
So maybe you're telling the truth, and you're just some uber 1/10 abomination like this guy
And also has a lot of money to spend for expensive hobbies because you gambled on bitcoin or something, or you're just coping, and larping as an Incel.
Man, that's some retarded horseshit. I mean by technicality maybe, but it's basically just a glorified form of escortcelling.
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I don't look remotely as abominable as this guy, yet that doesn't stop women from avoiding eye contact with me, and I think I know the reason why. It has nothing to do with geography; it has to do with AGE.
I am 49 years old, and I see a big contrast between how women (and men) treat me now versus how they used to treat me (I'm not saying I was a Chad, but at least people didn't treat me like I had leprosy). People here downplay this factor, but age is THE # 1 determinant of whether or not women will be physically attracted to you, no contest. If you happen to be the right age and have looks, the world for you becomes like a giant harem, with women willing to fuck you for free.
Age + Looks= Your SMV. Everything else is supplementary.
I don't look remotely as abominable as this guy, yet that doesn't stop women from avoiding eye contact with me, and I think I know the reason why. It has nothing to do with geography; it has to do with AGE.
I am 49 years old, and I see a big contrast between how women (and men) treat me now versus how they used to treat me (I'm not saying I was a Chad, but at least people didn't treat me like I had leprosy). People here downplay this factor, but age is THE # 1 determinant of whether or not women will be physically attracted to you, no contest. If you happen to be the right age and have looks, the world for you becomes like a giant harem, with women willing to fuck you for free.
Age + Looks= Your SMV. Everything else is supplementary.
If foids avoid eye contact with you due to age, hows your hair look? Do you have grey hair or balding? I don't believe its strictly age. Is your demeaner intimidating?
Must be nice having ppl to chill with.
It's just biology dude, if you want to fix it, start promoting an ideology that will guarantee a form of Eugenics to wipe these bad primitive traits from females. Also there's still a big difference between a woman succumbing to her biological inclination to look for a stable set of resources in a mate, and a Gold Digger, and they're actually very easy to differentiate between if you are familiar with female psychology/biology.
And yet I see more older men getting with women than younger men, and if you look at that map and countless data, more younger men report being single/virgin and having problems in the sexual market than younger men.
I don't buy the getting old is bad for men meme at all, I think the odds of me being Incel by the time i'm 40 or 50 are sub 5% unless I die or experience an excruciating accident which causes a deformity.
Even if I don't work all the way up until 25, and get a minimum wage job by then, as long as the economy doesn't collapse and I don't have the worst luck in the world, i'll be stable in 10-20 years, easily, the problem is I don't feel that that's what I should HAVE to do or any youngcel should have to do, people should be able to get married and breed before the age of 25, this is the optimal time to raise children because of being close culturally with them generationally, and your neurological plasticity hasn't gone to shit, and you're not able to process new information and facts things as much as you would 25 and under.
It's funny how I mentioned how most Incels are born in high population city areas, but you know what else most Incels have in common? Massively Older Parents, Boomer parents are a curse on their offspring, they can't relate to their children at all, they are not aware of how easy they had it, they give bad advice because they can't comprehend how much the world has changed in a mere 20 years, etc etc.
I regularly dye my hair, plus I use other tricks to make my face look younger. But, apparently, they can my age through all that. Even if they thought I was 10 years younger than I am, that still places me at close to 40. Not prime at all.
It's funny because my mother was 21 and my dad was 25 when I was born, yet I turned out an incel. My brother was born 11 years later, and he's a gigaslayer.
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