Serious How do you realistically fix the incel problem?

[Profligate]

And no it's not state mandated gfs or any of that retarded shit that's never gonna happen.

I mean how do you realistically rehabilitate someone like any of us? You can't. There's no way to fix anyone here in a way that would be considered acceptable by the society. And I think that is the reason why the government just threw their hands up and labelled us a terrorist organisation because there is nothing you can really do about us. The society is fundamentally flawed in a way that it just organically creates individuals like us and you can't really do anything about it.

We're literally like the untermensch in Hitlers germany except they can't just kill us like they did back then.

 

[depressedblackcel]

I just want to be loved

 

[Med Anime]

well, you actually can and it's pretty much by mass brainwashing of normies.
people like andrew tate have proved that the new gen z can be brainwashed easily. this baldie have made a ton of youngsters women,s haters and even tho i never liked andrew tate, i still respect the fact that he always made feminist and roasties seethes.
if he continue making the new gen more mysoginistic then we maybe can have patriarchy back in the future

 

[Antifem Lord]

They will start killing us

 

[oreo]

make painless suicide accessible to all

 

[Profligate]

well, you actually can and it's pretty much by mass brainwashing of normies.
people like andrew tate have proved that the new gen z can be brainwashed easily. this baldie have made a ton of youngsters women,s haters and even tho i never liked andrew tate, i still respect the fact that he always made feminist and roasties seethes.
if he continue making the new gen more mysoginistic then we maybe can have patriarchy back in the future

Tate is just a rabble rouser. He isn't really doing anything more than your standard redpill grifter. The only difference is that he's way more popular than all of them combined and I don't think we're gonna see anyone like him in the near future. Simply because it's extremely difficult to pull off something that he did and him alone isn't gonna be enough to make any kind of difference.

 

[Stupid Clown]

In 50 years women won't have rights. The incel issue is going to spread to normie men as well. When that happens it's over for women. That's why Andrew Tate and the blackpill is so highly censored.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Send to jail every person who has an account on onlyfans or any similar website.
Then, we'll see.

 

[Angry_runt]

It's not an incel problem, it's a femoid problem.
Women in their natural environment wouldn't give two shits about how a guy looks if he could provide for her.
But now civilization and government have given them everything so they no longer need man for anything.

 

[Mecoja]

Rewrite social rules. Change what is shamed and what is encouraged and what is tolerated. Humans are sheeps, they can be easily manipulated.

 

[SeetheBot9000]

Criminalize sex outside of marriage. Enforce monogamy. It's that simple.

 

[BoywithEarring]

force arranged marriages

 

[Profligate]

In 50 years women won't have rights. The incel issue is going to spread to normie men as well. When that happens it's over for women. That's why Andrew Tate and the blackpill is so highly censored.

I don't think so. You have to keep in mind that the average normie man is very desperately trying to fit in with the chads and women out of fear of being alone. So I think they're just gonna carry on doing whatever it is that's necessary to keep themselves a part of our gynocentrical society.

 

[Profligate]

It's not an incel problem, it's a femoid problem.
Women in their natural environment wouldn't give two shits about how a guy looks if he could provide for her.
But now civilization and government have given them everything so they no longer need man for anything.

The collapse of the civilization would restore the natural equilibrium of men and women. I know that but that's a different question

 

[Stupid Clown]

I don't think so. You have to keep in mind that the average normie man is very desperately trying to fit in with the chads and women out of fear of being alone. So I think they're just gonna carry on doing whatever it is that's necessary to keep themselves a part of our gynocentrical society.

Look at what rimes with grape statistics in India and countries like it. When the majority of young men are unable to get pussy and are aware of it it's not good for soyciety. The only way they can actually keep society like this is heavy censorship and even that is making things worse now.

 

[Profligate]

Send to jail every person who has an account on onlyfans or any similar website.
Then, we'll see.

Criminalize sex outside of marriage. Enforce monogamy. It's that simple.

force arranged marriages

That's never gonna happen in this day and age.

Rewrite social rules. Change what is shamed and what is encouraged and what is tolerated. Humans are sheeps, they can be easily manipulated.

True but you gotta keep in mind that it's women who are keeping our capitalist society alive because they are the majority of consumers. Therefore the government naturally caters to their every whim. You would have to change the whole economic and political system for that to happen and it's just not realistic.

 

[Profligate]

Look at what rimes with grape statistics in India and countries like it. When the majority of young men are unable to get pussy and are aware of it it's not good for soyciety. The only way they can actually keep society like this is heavy censorship and even that is making things worse now.

Yes and that's why we are gonna start drifting towards a more totalitarian kind of society in the future. I mean it's already happening in places like the UK and Australia

 

[Mecoja]

That's never gonna happen in this day and age.

True but you gotta keep in mind that it's women who are keeping our capitalist society alive because they are the majority of consumers. Therefore the government naturally caters to their every whim. You would have to change the whole economic and political system for that to happen and it's just not realistic.

It happened before, it will happen again. It wont happen over night, like you said, someone from the higher ups has to have huge benefits from it to start the things moving in that direction.

 

[Profligate]

It happened before, it will happen again. It wont happen over night, like you said, someone from the higher ups has to have huge benefits from it to start the things moving in that direction.

Yeah but the thing is the elites have achieved their goal of having complete control over the people and they are very comfortable with the way things are going right now so I don't think anything is gonna happen any time soon.

 

[turbosperg]

And no it's not state mandated gfs or any of that retarded shit that's never gonna happen.

I mean how do you realistically rehabilitate someone like any of us? You can't. There's no way to fix anyone here in a way that would be considered acceptable by the society. And I think that is the reason why the government just threw their hands up and labelled us a terrorist organisation because there is nothing you can really do about us. The society is fundamentally flawed in a way that it just organically creates individuals like us and you can't really do anything about it.

We're literally like the untermensch in Hitlers germany except they can't just kill us like they did back then.

Just remove welfare, subsidies, affirmative action hiring etc. and all foids become housewives the following week. Foids are economically ineffectual otherwise.

 

[Profligate]

Just remove welfare, subsidies, affirmative action hiring etc. and all foids become housewives the following week. Foids are economically ineffectual otherwise.

Well not really. Just look at the eastern europe they don't have any of those things and while the women are arguably more traditional things are still very bad. The vast majority of young attractive women are either gold diggers or prostitutes.

 

[N-Digger]

Unless you rewind the progress of technology I don't think you can fix the incel problem completely. You could change the legal system to be less biased against men which would stop divorce rape, single mothers etc but fixing the incel problem would be harder.
Technology has enabled women to be able to find partners outside of a limited social circle, which means Chad has easy access. The decline of the local community means that women don't get reputations as whores if they sleep around, incentivising them to do so. Social media has allowed women to gain 1000's of simps and massive egos, which make them less likely to settle with average men.

 

[Schirococo]

I just want to be loved

Unconditionally would be the preference for myself

 

[Profligate]

Unless you rewind the progress of technology I don't think you can fix the incel problem completely. You could change the legal system to be less biased against men which would stop divorce rape, single mothers etc but fixing the incel problem would be harder.
Technology has enabled women to be able to find partners outside of a limited social circle, which means Chad has easy access. The decline of the local community means that women don't get reputations as whores if they sleep around, incentivising them to do so. Social media has allowed women to gain 1000's of simps and massive egos, which make them less likely to settle with average men.

This is the conclusion that I came to. The only way things are ever gonna get any better is if the civilization collapses or gets destroyed. Let's hope for covid-20 or Putin losing his marbles

 

[nystagmuscel]

Widespread and easily accessible euthanasia for any one who wants it

 

[Captain Ahab]

revolution is the only way out

 

[WuhanFriedPuppies]

And no it's not state mandated gfs or any of that retarded shit that's never gonna happen.

I mean how do you realistically rehabilitate someone like any of us? You can't. There's no way to fix anyone here in a way that would be considered acceptable by the society. And I think that is the reason why the government just threw their hands up and labelled us a terrorist organisation because there is nothing you can really do about us. The society is fundamentally flawed in a way that it just organically creates individuals like us and you can't really do anything about it.

We're literally like the untermensch in Hitlers germany except they can't just kill us like they did back then.

World War 3 will take care of us.

 

[WuhanFriedPuppies]

Treat me decently like how they treat other normies. Simple.

>implying it's a choice

 

[sockekus]

well, you actually can and it's pretty much by mass brainwashing of normies.
people like andrew tate have proved that the new gen z can be brainwashed easily. this baldie have made a ton of youngsters women,s haters and even tho i never liked andrew tate, i still respect the fact that he always made feminist and roasties seethes.
if he continue making the new gen more mysoginistic then we maybe can have patriarchy back in the future

Hes 6'1 but says hes 6'4

 

[MentallyCelibate]

stunt dating apps, if you get 10 matches on tinder thats it, you stop being shown to women
this will cause less women to get "ruined" when their 18 because a chad fucked them and broke their hymen so they think theyre a 10/10
this will only fix the future generations, sadly our generations women are already ruined, they would rather die as cat ladies than be with you

 

[Eugenicelsarefunny]

Worldwide inaccessibility to media or limited to the beginnings of it. Probably best through a world war that disables communications

 

[Renegade#1]

You can't.

This is the only realistic answer,it never began for ugly men,especially in the age of social media,dating apps and femoids having all these rights.

 

[BPJ]

make painless suicide accessible to all

 

[Incel Philosopher]

Look at what rimes with grape statistics in India and countries like it. When the majority of young men are unable to get pussy and are aware of it it's not good for soyciety. The only way they can actually keep society like this is heavy censorship and even that is making things worse now.

Depends on how harsh the government is. China has a terrible gender ratio as well, women's standards are through the roof, yet the men are completely pacified. At best, they traffick in wives for themselves from other SEA countries.

And no it's not state mandated gfs or any of that retarded shit that's never gonna happen.

I mean how do you realistically rehabilitate someone like any of us? You can't. There's no way to fix anyone here in a way that would be considered acceptable by the society. And I think that is the reason why the government just threw their hands up and labelled us a terrorist organisation because there is nothing you can really do about us. The society is fundamentally flawed in a way that it just organically creates individuals like us and you can't really do anything about it.

We're literally like the untermensch in Hitlers germany except they can't just kill us like they did back then.

Advanced sex robots might be a solution for some incels.

I've written before on this forum that men's low value at the moment comes from life being easy. When life is difficult, men are valued. When life is easy, men's value drops and women's standards become inflated as they only focus on looks and social status. If we see wars and/or resource shortages, survival may become more difficult and less attractive men will be able to find wives. (however, men will have to work a lot harder in these conditions so it's a trade-off)

 

[Zogpilled]

all I know is that political solutions will never fix systemic issues. This whole system needs to collapse first before there can be any change. The system is beyond repair and since the fake pandemic it’s gotten much worse.

 

[Profligate]

Depends on how harsh the government is. China has a terrible gender ratio as well, women's standards are through the roof, yet the men are completely pacified. At best, they traffick in wives for themselves from other SEA countries.


Advanced sex robots might be a solution for some incels.

I've written before on this forum that men's low value at the moment comes from life being easy. When life is difficult, men are valued. When life is easy, men's value drops and women's standards become inflated as they only focus on looks and social status. If we see wars and/or resource shortages, survival may become more difficult and less attractive men will be able to find wives. (however, men will have to work a lot harder in these conditions so it's a trade-off)

I think either of your points are kinda shit.

Sex bots aren't real women first of all. That's all I have to say about that.

And to address your second point life is easy because men make it so. Who do you think wakes up at 4am to make sure everything is running smoothly in our society? Yeah it's tradesmen. Women do fuck all and they take everything for granted.

Men are gonna become valued only when the civilization collapses until then they're gonna remain invisible.

 

[MentallyCelibate]

stunt dating apps, if you get 10 matches on tinder thats it, you stop being shown to women
this will cause less women to get "ruined" when their 18 because a chad fucked them and broke their hymen so they think theyre a 10/10
this will only fix the future generations, sadly our generations women are already ruined, they would rather die as cat ladies than be with you

honestly another solution would be to do the reverse, stop showing men who get too many left swipes and only show chads. it will make hypergamy so bad that literally every man will be ok with enslaving women

 

[Profligate]

stunt dating apps, if you get 10 matches on tinder thats it, you stop being shown to women
this will cause less women to get "ruined" when their 18 because a chad fucked them and broke their hymen so they think theyre a 10/10
this will only fix the future generations, sadly our generations women are already ruined, they would rather die as cat ladies than be with you

honestly another solution would be to do the reverse, stop showing men who get too many left swipes and only show chads. it will make hypergamy so bad that literally every man will be ok with enslaving women

Stop being ridiculous. Nothing like that is ever gonna happen. We live in gynocentric capitalist nations.

How are they gonna make any money if you implement any of your ideas into dating apps?

 

[Incel Philosopher]

Sex bots aren't real women first of all. That's all I have to say about that.

They work for some incels. With further technological developments they will become a quality cope for even more. Society doesn't need to get rid of 100% of incels, it only needs to keep the number below a critical mass.

And to address your second point life is easy because men make it so. Who do you think wakes up at 4am to make sure everything is running smoothly in our society? Yeah it's tradesmen. Women do fuck all and they take everything for granted.

Men are gonna become valued only when the civilization collapses until then they're gonna remain invisible.

You have a poor understanding of how modern society works. In the 21st century, it's not the tradesmen who are making life easy. It's the fact that a lot of shit is automated. There are entire factories that are run without human labour, just robotic arms and conveyor belts putting everything together. You only need a few engineers around in case of technical failures.

We still need some tradesmen but any individual tradesman is easily replaceable. Most importantly, women do not need to be married to a man for their life to be easy. There are plenty of jobs that don't require physical strength or skills at which men have an advantage. However in times when survival is difficult, men's physical strength and resourcefulness is indispensible.

 

[1337hikki]

In 50 years women won't have rights. The incel issue is going to spread to normie men as well. When that happens it's over for women. That's why Andrew Tate and the blackpill is so highly censored.

Once the west gets taken over by 3rd world immigrants and the cucks all die off it's a real possibility

 

[Profligate]

They work for some incels. With further technological developments they will become a quality cope for even more. Society doesn't need to get rid of 100% of incels, it only needs to keep the number below a critical mass.


You have a poor understanding of how modern society works. In the 21st century, it's not the tradesmen who are making life easy. It's the fact that a lot of shit is automated. There are entire factories that are run without human labour, just robotic arms and conveyor belts putting everything together. You only need a few engineers around in case of technical failures.

We still need some tradesmen but any individual tradesman is easily replaceable. Most importantly, women do not need to be married to a man for their life to be easy. There are plenty of jobs that don't require physical strength or skills at which men have an advantage. However in times when survival is difficult, men's physical strength and resourcefulness is indispensible.

Not really bro. Sexbots might work for a handful retards but I and most men like to smell and taste a real woman but anyway your second point is more intriguing.

I think it's you who have a poor understanding of how society works. Men still need to climb phone and electricity masts everyday early in the morning to make sure they work just as they need to make sure the sewage is working as it should.

Also I have worked in the food production and logistics in the past. And guess what? It's mostly men who make sure that you have shit to buy in the supermarkets every single day.

So don't get me started on this whole men being disposable kind of shit. Men are the reason why we have a functioning society. Without them this shit will collapse in a matter of a single week.

It's just that most of us are so cucked that we do this shit for pennies.

 

[sockekus]

force arranged marriages

And get cheated, and raise chads kids lthinking their yours jfl

 

[Incel Philosopher]

I think it's you who have a poor understanding of how society works. Men still need to climb phone and electricity masts everyday early in the morning to make sure they work just as they need to make sure the sewage is working as it should.

You're only describing maintenance work. A few missed days aren't going to make a difference. A large number of men would have to go on strike for weeks if not months, for serious disruption to occur.

Plus, a lot of work at heights may get automated by drones in the future.

Also I have worked in the food production and logistics in the past. And guess what? It's mostly men who make sure that you have shit to buy in the supermarkets every single day.

Self-driving cars/trucks will reduce the need for men in the area of logistics.

So don't get me started on this whole men being disposable kind of shit. Men are the reason why we have a functioning society. Without them this shit will collapse in a matter of a single week.

It's just that most of us are so cucked that we do this shit for pennies.

Even in the jobs where men really are essential, women do not need to be married to them to experience the benefits. This wasn't the case in the past.

 

[Profligate]

And get cheated, and raise chads kids lthinking their yours jfl

Exactly this.

These stupid fucktards think they're so smart but they don't realize that women need to be in complete control by men to create a functioning society that isn't gonna fail like the pathetic western civilization *spit*

 

[Profligate]

You're only describing maintenance work. A few missed days aren't going to make a difference. A large number of men would have to go on strike for weeks if not months, for serious disruption to occur.

Plus, a lot of work at heights may get automated by drones in the future.

Self-driving cars/trucks will reduce the need for men in the area of logistics.


Even in the jobs where men really are essential, women do not need to be married to them to experience the benefits. This wasn't the case in the past.

Yeah it will you have no idea what your'e talking about. Our infrastructure needs a daily maintenance.

Self driving anything is a fucking meme. I'm a fully qualified mechanic with experience and I can tell you that we are years if not decades away from that.

Seriously man you sound like a redditcuck who think whamen can replace men and everything will be fine but I'm telling you it won't.

 

[AsiaCel]

Ban social media, put foids back to home (from workplace)

 

[Incel Philosopher]

Yeah it will you have no idea what your'e talking about. Our infrastructure needs a daily maintenance.

Self driving anything is a fucking meme. I'm a fully qualified mechanic with experience and I can tell you that we are years if not decades away from that.

Seriously man you sound like a redditcuck who think whamen can replace men and everything will be fine but I'm telling you it won't.

Enough men are being sexually satisfied for society to comfortably keep running.
If you were right about men being so essential, we wouldn't even be on this forum.

A big reason why I'm making this argument is you can literally see this for yourself by travelling. In less developed countries men are more respected and the dating is more balanced between the sexes (and I don't just mean for rich foreigners, it's more balanced in general). Women do not want to go through life alone over there.

I don't think "whamen can replace men", I just think most of them can get cushy office jobs in the west (especially with diversity quotas), and life is simply too easy for them. There is more than enough men to do the few remaining physical jobs, women don't have to worry about anything.

 

[Profligate]

Enough men are being sexually satisfied for society to comfortably keep running.
If you were right about men being so essential, we wouldn't even be on this forum.

A big reason why I'm making this argument is you can literally see this for yourself by travelling. In less developed countries men are more respected and the dating is more balanced between the sexes (and I don't just mean for rich foreigners, it's more balanced in general). Women do not want to go through life alone over there.

I don't think "whamen can replace men", I just think most of them can get cushy office jobs in the west (especially with diversity quotas), and life is simply too easy for them. There is more than enough men to do the few remaining physical jobs, women don't have to worry about anything.

So you're whole argument is that normie men prop up the society. Yes that much was already known. But what if one day the decide not to?

Of course that will never happen because they're too low iq and instinct driven for it to happen and the elites know that.

Anyway what are we even talking about?

 

[MentallyCelibate]

Stop being ridiculous. Nothing like that is ever gonna happen. We live in gynocentric capitalist nations.

How are they gonna make any money if you implement any of your ideas into dating apps?

are your retarded or a federal agent ? do they make money off of tranny Budweiser ? or interracial ads ? not everything the jews do is for money. plus they are losing value because pussyless goys dont wanna work. adding a few lines of code to tinder is more realistic than your "TOTAL COLLAPSE OF SOYCIETY "

 

[Incel Philosopher]

So you're whole argument is that normie men prop up the society. Yes that much was already known. But what if one day the decide not to?

Of course that will never happen because they're too low iq and instinct driven for it to happen and the elites know that.

Anyway what are we even talking about?

This was my point:

If we see wars and/or resource shortages, survival may become more difficult and less attractive men will be able to find wives.