Do you accept them the same?
I don't have a universal level of acceptance for incels of any group, the acceptance varies as I grow to understand more about them as an individual.
Do you have sympathy for them?
I try to sympathize with everyone to some degree and I'm usually at least partly successful.
Does it matter if they are transgender males or transgender females or intersex?
Matter in respect to what? Every single factor about someone matters in certain contexts but not other contexts.
My opinion is If they are suffering inceldom just as much as us, I still have sympathy for them.
We can have suffering for many common things we know like lonelyness and also for things we haven't personally experienced such as blindness or being born without fingers.
But if I met a transgender man who's an incel, I think he's better off just being a tom boy lesbian than trying to be a man.
I guess it depends on what respect you mean 'better off' though.
Some people are attached to a certain gender identity for whatever reason and it would bother them go go by a different one.
TBH this isn't something I understand, I basically dress male because it's cheap/convenient/low-effort/low-danger and I hope I'd be just as utilitarian if I'd been born in a female body.
Going beyond clothing to whatever other mannerisms get associated with gender is muddy waters because this tends to be stereotyped virtues which when I look deeply don't seem gender-exclusive as much as they just seem gender-trended.
Also depending on how far they are on transition could impact my view. If the transgender man has been on testosterone for a long time, has beard, and male voice, it would be easy to see him as another dude. But if he didn't even start hormones, and basically just looks like a foid whos a tom boy, I would till see them as a foid, which might make me feel less sympathy.
We could sympathize to the extent of them being trapped in a non-ideal form they want to alter. I think that's something most of us understand, the main difference being we want to (subjectively) upgrade looks and they want to (subjectively) upgrade gender.
I guess I can have sympathy for them that they are fucked up, but they are basically our enemies and they are very easy to hate
Why are they our enemies? They seem like a distraction the (((real enemy))) would have us waste energies on by milking baseline homophobic insecurity.
Inceldom is a straight male thing. Straight males are held to significantly higher standards than everyone else because they pose a risk of impregenating foids with subpar genes.
I think this would also apply to bisexual males with heterosexual preferences (termed heteroflexible) since they still mainly go for women but would maybe prison-cope with a trap but view it as disgusting on par with a landwhale.
LGBT incels don't exist, at most they're locationcels or culturecels; they aren't alone simply because nobody is willing to fuck them. Any one of them could at least get matches on gay dating apps.
I think it's plausible there is a miniscule amount of same-sex interests willing to fuck certain homosexuals, but I agree there aren't the same female>male choosiness dilemmas we deal with.
they are mentally ill, they're coping hard trying to delude themselves into thinking they can cheat biology
This is where we all were when we were bluepilled
PS: there's still a fragment of blue in us all we can't expel
I wouldn't care about trans people if they weren't allying with our enemies and trying to fuck us over at every chance.
I always figure that's only something like 99% of them so in case I meet a rare 1% who isn't I should be willing to give them benefit of the doubt.
Like with niggers I'm still gonna be cautious and watch for knives though.
Any normal person finds trannies disgusting. Their existence acts as a redpill
Normalcy inspires no awe in me.
LGBT people are mostly incredibly unempathetic towards incels. Even if we were tolerant they would still hate us.
This doesn't sound different from non-LGBT people.
You'd think they'd understand how annoying it is to not get to fuck the people you want, but nope.
That's because it's been acceptable for so long.
I bet we'd be way better friends with closeted gays/trannies from the 1800s or something since they'd better understand our sense of persecution and ostracizing.
They don't feel entitled like the modern LGBT with literal machines out to serve them.
I have no respect for them, they're a bunch of mentally ill retards who force their retarded ideology and call you a "bigot" just for believing in biology.
I think that's only some of them. I'm pretty sure the smart ones are just playing a semantic game where they diverge "sex" and "gender" into different ideas (I believe a Jew started that) ignoring/overriding past usage as synonyms.
If they can sexually identify as the opposite gender, why can't I sexually identify as an attractive man? There's a difference between wanting something and being something.
This is basically a logical next step of the deconstruction of gender norms and identities.
If either sex can be a nurturer and either sex can be a warrior then your 'gender identity' is I guess you identifying with roles that traditionalism perscribed to a certain sex?
I just don't know how genderism manages to ally/coexist with gender deconstructionism though, seems contradictory.
Those who ID as genderqueer (abandoning a blanket label for a collection of traits now allowed for anyone to ascribe to) are basically a fuck-you to cisgender/transgender alike.
Why would i have sympathy for fucking trannies when normal men who like 15 year old girls are demonised and criminalised but these fucking freaks get government funding in the tens of thousands (often when they are also children) to get dick cutting off surgery?
I thought they for the most part invert the dick (shaft becomes pseudovagina?) and only temporarily amputate the glans before reattaching it to make it a clitesque thing.
Where the fuck is my hormones from the government? Where is my testosterone so i could experience being a real man? I hate trannies and the system that enables them.
It's hard for me to fault trannies for taking the free handouts, your beef is moreso with the system not treating you fairly and giving you free roids to also look as you please.
you think bio foids want trannys?
on occasion I think they do, but they tend to be lesbian-adjacent
