How do get what you want from people

[fukface]

Can anyone recommend some good guides for manipulating others to get what you want from them? How to toy with peoples emotions?

I've seen some stuff on Youtube about manipulating others and it was ok. Perhaps I'm searching for the wrong terms.

 

[StillBitter]

I don't know about emotions and relationships but in business ect leverage and walk away power is key.

 

[metal]

I have not a social life

 

[fukface]

For what kind of purposes

For every kind of purpose. But I'll give some examples:

Your buying a car and you think the dealer is spinning you on price. How do you negotiate?

On the phone with customer service and they are of no help. How do you force their arm to help you.

Working with a female coworker and you wanna have your way with her. How can you do this without getting fired.

Asking for a raise at work.

...Just a few. I have no problem being unethical to get what I want. But I can always learn better technique. In a world where everyone around you is trying to one-up you, you have to be more ruthless than they are.

 

[VLÖ]

Be chad.

 

[Vodaccenu]

Get a vagina uuhh just read books about Charisma bro

 

[Asianmanletcel]

mind control

 

[averageblokecel]

Be a sociopath, It comes naturally

 

[fukface]

Be a sociopath, It comes naturally

Good point. I'd like to think I have some natural sociopathic tendencies, I just need to hone my skillset.

 

[TheNEET]

Get a vagina uuhh just read books about Charisma bro

trannymax and call everyone who disagrees with you, a transphobe and a literal Hitler

 

[WarriorSkull]

Some of that is just negotiation leveraging, you could read Art Of The Deal and similar books for such information.

The problem with real social manipulation is that you need to be able to leverage the wider social enviroment/context to be effective consistently. Think stage hypnotists in this regard. People they call up on stage aren't actually in their command, it is just combination of the relaxation techniques lower inhibition combined with being in the spotlight to entertain the audience that compels people to cluck like chickens when told to. Of course, this is why looks is such a powerful stat multiplier, because it not only effects people directly, but entire groups.

 

[averageblokecel]

Good point. I'd like to think I have some natural sociopathic tendencies, I just need to hone my skillset.

A sociopath is born, not made, I never intended to be one

 

[guerillahubris]

A sociopath is born, not made, I never intended to be one

how does sociopathy affect you? can you give examples of things you can do differently/better than others?

 

[Bagelcel]

Have a vagina.

 

[Deleted member 677]

Have a gun.

 

[averageblokecel]

how does sociopathy affect you? can you give examples of things you can do differently/better than others?

Disclaimer: I do not intend to be "edgy xdxdddddd"
Well, I'm a fierce catholic so I know perfectly what morality and what good and bad is, the thing is I never REALLY felt bad after doing something morally wrong, I mean I know I did It but I never felt real guilt while I do know normans feel it, I'm being comoletely serious here. For example when I hurt my normie friends I need to fake guilt and pledge pardon but one of my friends some months ago fucked Up with me and I got really pissed off with him (personally), he then proceeded to Talk with another Friends and feel guilt and shit while if that were to happen to me I don't need to talk le whatever, I just fake it

Also I analize very fast social situations and if I'm not drunk I use that to my advantage (when I'm drunk I just NTmaxx and my analisys and everything vanishes) by manipulating and being ruthless, see people don't do things because they know they are inherently bad but I don't do things because It doesn't serve me a purpose, never because I knew It was bad

Basically socipathy gives you the ability of knowing morals while at the same time not being stopped by them, you are also naturally more consciuos and ruthless which can lead to problems, I mean I have done things then after I get to know that It pissed off someone (consecuences is not a very prevalent word in my mind tbhngl), also I think this condition is way better than norman condition, most world leaders and historical figures where sociopaths if you think about it for a moment, normans are fucking retarded and all the same, you predict them, it comes off as usual that I tell to one of friends the (real) deal and situations with someone and they are clueless when for me it's fucking easy

 

[guerillahubris]

Disclaimer: I do not intend to be "edgy xdxdddddd"
Well, I'm a fierce catholic so I know perfectly what morality and what good and bad is, the thing is I never REALLY felt bad after doing something morally wrong, I mean I know I did It but I never felt real guilt while I do know normans feel it, I'm being comoletely serious here. For example when I hurt my normie friends I need to fake guilt and pledge pardon but one of my friends some months ago fucked Up with me and I got really pissed off with him (personally), he then proceeded to Talk with another Friends and feel guilt and shit while if that were to happen to me I don't need to talk le whatever, I just fake it

Also I analize very fast social situations and if I'm not drunk I use that to my advantage (when I'm drunk I just NTmaxx and my analisys and everything vanishes) by manipulating and being ruthless, see people don't do things because they know they are inherently bad but I don't do things because It doesn't serve me a purpose, never because I knew It was bad

Basically socipathy gives you the ability of knowing morals while at the same time not being stopped by them, you are also naturally more consciuos and ruthless which can lead to problems, I mean I have done things then after I get to know that It pissed off someone (consecuences is not a very prevalent word in my mind tbhngl), also I think this condition is way better than norman condition, most world leaders and historical figures where sociopaths if you think about it for a moment, normans are fucking retarded and all the same, you predict them, it comes off as usual that I tell to one of friends the (real) deal and situations with someone and they are clueless when for me it's fucking easy

ok but i fail to see how being cold and ruthless emotionally allows you to do much, what exactly is the benefit? are normies impressed by the low inhib and lack of hesitation in getting what you want?

 

[Spite]

There are books on this, haven't yet read any tho so can't recommend.

 

[averageblokecel]

ok but i fail to see how being cold and ruthless emotionally allows you to do much, what exactly is the benefit? are normies impressed by the low inhib and lack of hesitation in getting what you want?

The benefit is not being a beta and believe me if you compare your average norman with the average sociopath, the average sociopath gets more things that he desires because you just do without thinking about the consequences (hence pissing off a lot of people)

Normies get impressed by low inhib but not for being ruthless, you gotta be careful, it's normal for me to intimidate foids (ruthless+misogynic+agressive) and piss off males, ruthless is for when something is needed not for a desirable personality trait (socially speaking)

Normies have social circles because they are like a herd, sociopaths need to combine a lot of factors in order to maintain one, normies don't achieve much when being 1% of a herd, a norman serves the purpose of the herd, for a sociopath the herd must be able to serve something

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

exist as a female

For every kind of purpose. But I'll give some examples:

Your buying a car and you think the dealer is spinning you on price. How do you negotiate?

On the phone with customer service and they are of no help. How do you force their arm to help you.

Working with a female coworker and you wanna have your way with her. How can you do this without getting fired.

Asking for a raise at work.

...Just a few. I have no problem being unethical to get what I want. But I can always learn better technique. In a world where everyone around you is trying to one-up you, you have to be more ruthless than they are.

For every kind of purpose. But I'll give some examples:

Your buying a car and you think the dealer is spinning you on price. How do you negotiate? Bruh, i dont know how it works whereever you live but im sure its the same, cause in australia you can easily negotiate the price by at least 2k off the advertised price

On the phone with customer service and they are of no help. How do you force their arm to help you.
Threaten to take it up to their manager or higher

Working with a female coworker and you wanna have your way with her. How can you do this without getting fired.

if ur ugly why bother

Asking for a raise at work.
if you have been there for quite a long time and always put a good effort in then i think you would have pretty good reasons right there on why a raise could be asked.

...Just a few. I have no problem being unethical to get what I want. But I can always learn better technique. In a world where everyone around you is trying to one-up you, you have to be more ruthless than they are.

Have a vagina.