how can you be a leftist and a misanthrope at the same time?

[Chingaquedito]

leftists always appeal to the will of the people, but average person doesn't care or give a shit about all that

the average person doesn't care about social causes, or the collective welfare, or even defending their own rights. they just put their heads down and go on with their lives,

that's the main reason why i started to distance myself from left wing groups. i realized that demonstrations, press releases, and statements were just a waste of time because nobody cares about that shit

also, as an incel it seems to me a waste of time to spend too much time and effort looking for the collective welfare, when humans have a strong tendency to create hierarchies and marginalize those who are different, and in this case, you will always be a victim, no matter what side you choose, you're always going to be treated like shit by other human beings just because of your poor social skills/incel features

 

[Allah (Real)]

To answer the title, you can't, the only socialist I can think of that was close to a misanthrope is Philipp Mainlander.

There's no point caring about a human race which doesn't care about you. Let someone else worry about advancing collective welfare, we don't have any skin in the game for now.

 

[Castaway]

Misanthropic Socialist is an oxymoron. Socialism is humanist through and through and has from the beginning been about improving the human condition, defending human rights, collectivizing humanity ect.

A true misanthrope either supports totalitarian aristocracy in which he and a few like-minded individuals rule over the normie cattle masses or individualistic anarchy in which it is every man for himself.

 

[WeirdPanda]

A true misanthrope either supports totalitarian aristocracy in which he and a few like-minded individuals rule over the normie cattle masses or individualistic anarchy in which it is every man for himself.

Asking whether you can be a leftist and a misanthrope at the same time is like asking if you can be a leftist and nihilist at the same time. Essentially you come around to the conclusion that to sustain a "totalitarian aristocracy" you'd need to reinforce the formation of an intellectual elite so that you could control the "normie cattle prole masses" into becoming war fodder and a controlled unpriviliged workforce majority. That would require a level of natalism which is certainly not a misanthropic ideal to uphold.

You could also argue that individualistic anarchies would just devolve into tribal society with warlords and slaves and all the like. And we just come back to what we stated before about a level of human life worth being needed to keep that around. You'd be putting values on human lives which would justify them being sold or genocided or negotiated with and whatever.

I personally think that for a misanthrope all lives should technically have the same value or no value at all. That could either come through the destruction of hierarchies or the extinction of humanity. I'm up for both, both the annihilation of humanity and the destruction of all hierarchies sound like good ideas to me.

TLDR; Leftists advocate for total equality, and misanthropy advocates for the opposite. They're more similar than you'd think. Just one is optimistic and humanist while the other is pessimistic and anti-humanist.

 

[Chingaquedito]

Asking whether you can be a leftist and a misanthrope at the same time is like asking if you can be a leftist and nihilist at the same time. Essentially you come around to the conclusion that to sustain a "totalitarian aristocracy" you'd need to reinforce the formation of an intellectual elite so that you could control the "normie cattle prole masses" into becoming war fodder and a controlled unpriviliged workforce majority. That would require a level of natalism which is certainly not a misanthropic ideal to uphold.

You could also argue that individualistic anarchies would just devolve into tribal society with warlords and slaves and all the like. And we just come back to what we stated before about a level of human life worth being needed to keep that around. You'd be putting values on human lives which would justify them being sold or genocided or negotiated with and whatever.

I personally think that for a misanthrope all lives should technically have the same value or no value at all. That could either come through the destruction of hierarchies or the extinction of humanity. I'm up for both, both the annihilation of humanity and the destruction of all hierarchies sound like good ideas to me.

TLDR; Leftists advocate for total equality, and misanthropy advocates for the opposite. They're more similar than you'd think. Just one is optimistic and humanist while the other is pessimistic and anti-humanist.