Discussion How can I make more money?

[TheJester]

Yeah the age old question of "greed".

My Situation is I am soon 26 yo, single male, I have a BA in Energy Management and Technology, despite that I formost work for a company as a "Junior Accounting Manager" at least thats what the indeed job title said. I make 30€/h which is obviously more then minimum wage in Germany (13€) and still isn't able to actually let me afford anything. I live in a shit apartment in a slum and it's still quite expensive because this is one of the larger cities and thus rather expensive.

Inflation in Germany is sky high. The average guy here is getting poorer and poorer and you can see this very well. There's more homeless and crime and everything kind of falls apart - literally.

I joined a Beermoney Discord and I basically already kinda tried every little thing to make an extra buck:

- Surveys
- JustPlay (pays Cents for doing stupid games)
- Crypto mining (I have been doing this for over 2 years now actually)
- Online Marketing (sometimes)
- Paid Product Revenues
- Collecting Paper

Collecting Paper is not as profitable as it used to be, you only get like 5 Cents for 1 kg of paper. Same as collecting bottles.

I also tried day trading, Ive been doing it for 3 years to be BARELY a few thousand bucks in the profit to the point I calculated that I might as well have just bought Gold or SPY and held to be just if not even more profitable. So I gave up trading and split my portfolio up in a few tech stocks and a few copy traders who do it for me, because I come to the realization that you really need to be a Genius like MrTopHat or some super traders doing it for decades and also already having funds to begin with. Day Trading with less then 200k barely makes sense no kidding.

I also see no career path in my current job. And one guy at work has also stated that I will be trapped here for eternity - which is blackpilled as fuck.

I am not even as close to as stress resistent as I used to be and I dont want to do a second job (minijob).

This would give me but 550€ more a month but demand like 14 hours more work each week and way more stress and I HATE humans, I hate to Deal with new people who know I am but s cog in the machine and from even when I was a younger adult and teenager none at these minijob places gives a fuck about you, you are literally a cuck if you work at McDonalds or as a Janitor or it doesnt really matter you will be looked upon like trash and funny thing is even at my current job theres people who look upon me like trash because either they caught on that I am a "Weirdo" or something ot idk I work differently?

I was even thinking about just doing tiktok now like all the other losers do because they are either greedy or want easy money of dancing like a fool or spamming AI videos.

There MUST be still a way to get rich, something I haven't tried yet!?

 

[Excluded]

There's no easy way to get rich, if there were everyone would be. The easiest way is working the job that gets you the biggest ammount of savings, investing everything in an index fund and then wait for like 30 years. But takes too many time to be waiting for that financial independence, and by then you might as well be dead or an old dude who lost all of his life.

Don't obsess too much about making money, just keep working, saving and investing the easy way

 

[TooSomething]

Just scam motherfuckers out of their money.

Buy cheap shit and sell it for more money. It's all about how you present it.

But that is still work.

But to be honest, in Germany there is no legal way to earn good money.

If you earn a lot, chances are you are directly or indirectly involved in some kind of scam.

If I knew what I know today as a teen, I'd have started growing weed to master it and become the go to dealer in town, hell in my region.

Now it's too late.

I'd have made millions by now. Fuck this life. If you are born into aa dumb and too honest family for there own good, you are cooked.

You will eat shit like them for the rest of your life, especially when your father does not actually want you to succeed in anything and each time you somehow put your neck out he will sabbotage you.

My dad is great at this. He failed in his life and apparently can't let his son succeed unlike him.

Normal, mentally healthy parents invest in their kids when they see that they have a thing going for them.
Even if it is just time, they do it. Not my parents though.

If you can't live a good life with 30€/h then either the cost of living in your town is fucked or you are very bad with money.

I live off of 15€/h just fine, I guess.

Can you at least afford a car?

 

[bcroger]

Invest it in leveraged ETFs, or less risky ones that follow the sp500.

Look into spxl and spuu. If you are not comfortable with leverage, then use growth and tech etfs, such as VONG or VGT.

Be sure to research before investing

 

[TheJester]

Can you at least afford a car?

I could but I am not buying a used one and new ones right now are too expensive at least the models i look forward to. That said I prefer to use the train, it's cheaper and I don't travel so I see also no real usage for a car + theres 2 supermarkets but 150 and 300 m from my Block.

Btw I can live here - but that's just it.

I just cant you know buy a house...ever. Even buying an Apartment in Germany, let alone here where the average 2 bedroom is 450k wont likely happen in my lifetime.

The Post was more like that - how i can make the money that I could own a modern home with photovoltaik and renewable energy Systems + enough space so I could have my own garden on the front Yard + electric car which should be new and those are like 50k+.

Also home robots are coming like the Tesla Optimus who start at 25k and I want two to manage the household.

This is probably what some would already call luxury but tbh it really is just what was said to be the "Modern Dream" like the average for the middle class guy.

But I don't see any of this happening and calculated that no matter how much I work I wont own this stuff in 30 years EVEN if I made twice my current income!

 

[TooSomething]

I could but I am not buying a used one and new ones right now are too expensive at least the models i look forward to. That said I prefer to use the train, it's cheaper and I don't travel so I see also no real usage for a car + theres 2 supermarkets but 150 and 300 m from my Block.

Btw I can live here - but that's just it.

I just cant you know buy a house...ever. Even buying an Apartment in Germany, let alone here where the average 2 bedroom is 450k wont likely happen in my lifetime.

The Post was more like that - how i can make the money that I could own a modern home with photovoltaik and renewable energy Systems + enough space so I could have my own garden on the front Yard + electric car which should be new and those are like 50k+.

Also home robots are coming like the Tesla Optimus who start at 25k and I want two to manage the household.

This is probably what some would already call luxury but tbh it really is just what was said to be the "Modern Dream" like the average for the middle class guy.

But I don't see any of this happening and calculated that no matter how much I work I wont own this stuff in 30 years EVEN if I made twice my current income!

Electric car? Nigga no wonder you ain't making money. Electric cars are one huge scam and on top they fry you balls and basically your whole body.

They are also a death trap if you ever end up in a serious crash.
You will burn alive.

The stuff you're asking for is useless if you just live on your own and have no kids and no bitch around.

"Modern dream" my ass. Most of the shit you want is literally just that, shit.

If you are young, buying a house is stupid anyway.
In your youger years you want to stay mobile, flexible.

Photovoltaik is also kind of dumb. Have you calculated how long it would take for it to pay off?

I say, invest all the money you aren't spending / don't need, in stocks of companies that are stable and large.
You might as well invest in the weapons industry.
No matter what we do or say, wars won't ever end. Might as well profit off of that.

Snnd only dumb motherfuckers fight in wars, so I wouldn't give a fuck whether I have the blood of idiots on my hands.

This way you will at least have saved some of your money / resources from depreciation.

Even during a recession big companies usually don't go belly up, so your resources are safest there.

In old age at least you will have some assets to retire with because our pension system won't exist anymore once you retire.

It's what I am doing, btw. If you are extra lazy, you could invest in ETFs, I think they are called.
Basically a bunch of stocks from different companies. Like bonds or so.
You get higher profit than with just a savings account.
And if one or two of those companies screw up, it won't hit you as hard.

You won't get rich doing this and you will have to continue working, but you will be relatively safe, I think.

 

[iicc66]

Yeah the age old question of "greed".

My Situation is I am soon 26 yo, single male, I have a BA in Energy Management and Technology, despite that I formost work for a company as a "Junior Accounting Manager" at least thats what the indeed job title said. I make 30€/h which is obviously more then minimum wage in Germany (13€) and still isn't able to actually let me afford anything. I live in a shit apartment in a slum and it's still quite expensive because this is one of the larger cities and thus rather expensive.

Inflation in Germany is sky high. The average guy here is getting poorer and poorer and you can see this very well. There's more homeless and crime and everything kind of falls apart - literally.

I joined a Beermoney Discord and I basically already kinda tried every little thing to make an extra buck:

- Surveys
- JustPlay (pays Cents for doing stupid games)
- Crypto mining (I have been doing this for over 2 years now actually)
- Online Marketing (sometimes)
- Paid Product Revenues
- Collecting Paper

Collecting Paper is not as profitable as it used to be, you only get like 5 Cents for 1 kg of paper. Same as collecting bottles.

I also tried day trading, Ive been doing it for 3 years to be BARELY a few thousand bucks in the profit to the point I calculated that I might as well have just bought Gold or SPY and held to be just if not even more profitable. So I gave up trading and split my portfolio up in a few tech stocks and a few copy traders who do it for me, because I come to the realization that you really need to be a Genius like MrTopHat or some super traders doing it for decades and also already having funds to begin with. Day Trading with less then 200k barely makes sense no kidding.

I also see no career path in my current job. And one guy at work has also stated that I will be trapped here for eternity - which is blackpilled as fuck.

I am not even as close to as stress resistent as I used to be and I dont want to do a second job (minijob).

This would give me but 550€ more a month but demand like 14 hours more work each week and way more stress and I HATE humans, I hate to Deal with new people who know I am but s cog in the machine and from even when I was a younger adult and teenager none at these minijob places gives a fuck about you, you are literally a cuck if you work at McDonalds or as a Janitor or it doesnt really matter you will be looked upon like trash and funny thing is even at my current job theres people who look upon me like trash because either they caught on that I am a "Weirdo" or something ot idk I work differently?

I was even thinking about just doing tiktok now like all the other losers do because they are either greedy or want easy money of dancing like a fool or spamming AI videos.

There MUST be still a way to get rich, something I haven't tried yet!?

Rent an apartment with others

 

[iicc66]

Electric car? Nigga no wonder you ain't making money. Electric cars are one huge scam and on top they fry you balls and basically your whole body.

They are also a death trap if you ever end up in a serious crash.
You will burn alive.

The stuff you're asking for is useless if you just live on your own and have no kids and no bitch around.

"Modern dream" my ass. Most of the shit you want is literally just that, shit.

If you are young, buying a house is stupid anyway.
In your youger years you want to stay mobile, flexible.

Photovoltaik is also kind of dumb. Have you calculated how long it would take for it to pay off?

I say, invest all the money you aren't spending / don't need, in stocks of companies that are stable and large.
You might as well invest in the weapons industry.
No matter what we do or say, wars won't ever end. Might as well profit off of that.

Snnd only dumb motherfuckers fight in wars, so I wouldn't give a fuck whether I have the blood of idiots on my hands.

This way you will at least have saved some of your money / resources from depreciation.

Even during a recession big companies usually don't go belly up, so your resources are safest there.

In old age at least you will have some assets to retire with because our pension system won't exist anymore once you retire.

It's what I am doing, btw. If you are extra lazy, you could invest in ETFs, I think they are called.
Basically a bunch of stocks from different companies. Like bonds or so.
You get higher profit than with just a savings account.
And if one or two of those companies screw up, it won't hit you as hard.

You won't get rich doing this and you will have to continue working, but you will be relatively safe, I think.

They are also worse or neutral for the environment

 

[TooSomething]

They are also worse or neutral for the environment

While I know for a fact that EVs are far worse for the environment in the long run, I don't give a fuck either way.

Why would I care about polution or societys' general health?!

They couldn't care less about my mental and physical health or else they'd have provided me with a fertile virgin woman of my smv who is unvaxxed to have offspring with.

So, fuck it all.

 

[iicc66]

I'd have made millions by now. Fuck this life. If you are born into aa dumb and too honest family for there own good, you are cooked.

You will eat shit like them for the rest of your life, especially when your father does not actually want you to succeed in anything and each time you somehow put your neck out he will sabbotage you.

Relatable bro, although its still kinda risky its not like some random teen can go and grow weed without a problem, a few people i know were even killed doing some shit like that

 

[TooSomething]

Relatable bro, although its still kinda risky its not like some random teen can go and grow weed without a problem, a few people i know were even killed doing some shit like that

Makes sense. If the wrong people (competitors) find out you will know soon enough. There are snitches everywhere.

Some of your clients might be snitches.

I remember how I never met my dealers directly, when I used to smoke weed.

I only ever met a middle man whom the actual dealer trusted.

I'd give the money with the order to the middle man and he'd take it to the dealer.

I was even told to not follow or I'd be in serious trouble.

What I have noticed in any town though is that if you open up any lucrative business in town, you will soon get visited by the local mafia.
Happens in my former town. If you want to open a fast food restaurant you have to ask them first and they tell you where you can open.
They also fix the prices. Most if not all of the shit is controlled.

If you are not on somebodies payrole, you soon will be.

This world is corrupt beyond the imagination of most folks here, I am sure.

The difference is that in Germany criminals areuch more sophisticated.

If one gets caught and officially paraded by the media then it is most likely because he refused to pay someone off / enough money.

Same goes for politicians.

I suspect that even successful youtubers are owned by someone who also uses them to launder money.

Best to find a way to make money anonymousely, online.

Once you make so much that you're noticed, you become a target for competition.

I know that in my town you can hire guys to kill someone for just 200€.
That's how fucked it is. Your competition could pay someone just 200€ to take you out.

I am sure my boss has some dark secrets too, else he wouldn't be were he is today.
You should see his place. It's guarded 24/7.

 

[iicc66]

my boss

What are you into dude lol, or do you mean normal work boss

 

[TooSomething]

What are you into dude lol, or do you mean normal work boss

I work a perfectly legal job. Not in the slightes sketchy.

I work as a lathe operator.

But I have a bit of life experience in my region.

I've seen things, heard things, experienced things.

I am 100% sure that my boss isn't 100% safe and legit.

Nobody is with that kind of success and money is, not in this place.

 

[pizzamaxxer]

change locations , move to your closest town with cheaper rent. buy some second hand car to travel and work extra hours. Idk anything else that could seem to work for u

 

[Knajjd]

Also home robots are coming like the Tesla Optimus who start at 25k and I want two to manage the household.

Why do you want 2 bots?

 

[Grodd]

Bank robbery

 

[TheCatMan]

High interest savings account