How can any incels believe in a loving deity??

[Midwestcel]

Even if there is a loving god, he doesn't love you. I mean, if Jeremy Meeks woke up today and thought "God must love me", he'd have a good point. Look at his life. But for an incel to think that, what is the basis for it? It's the same thing as saying Jesus loves the little children to a child dying of cancer. If there is a Jesus, he loves all of the healthy children, hence their health.

 

[Deleted member 18214]

Determinism is a truly evil deity

 

[Deleted member 15752]

Maybe because its stated in religious scripture that this world is of Satan?

 

[StormlitAqua]

If god exist why bad things happen??????

So Pilate entered his headquarters again and called Jesus and said to him, “Are you the King of the Jews?” 34 Jesus answered, “Do you say this of your own accord, or did others say it to you about me?” 35 Pilate answered, “Am I a Jew? Your own nation and the chief priests have delivered you over to me. What have you done?” 36 Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world.”

 

[Midwestcel]

Maybe because its stated in religious scripture that this world is of Satan?

Isaiah 45:7
7I form light and create darkness; I bring prosperity and create calamity. I, the LORD, do all these things.

 

[Deleted member 14805]

Nope. I'm a nihilist and atheist, BUT I'm open to having my mind changed, provided evidence can be brought forth.

 

[Deleted member 8884]

I believe in the greater good srs

I believe this world is hell srs

I'm convinced that NPCs aren't a meme srs

I'm also convinced that most humans are actually demons srs

Never lost faith crew
I can always tell who's an NPC crew
Avoid people like the plague crew

 

[Barnacle]

I am against atheism and materialism as this is a stuck up and arrogant position but no, I certainly do not believe in an "all loving God".

 

[Deleted member 21770]

All loving god

 

[Midwestcel]

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[Gyros_Pretcel]

@God left us long ago.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I am ultimately undecided on intelligent design, but if a creator does in fact exist, it is incomprehensibly malevolent, almost unbelievabley so tbh. Therefore I'm leaning towards the conclusion that such a being cannot exist, and that all of this is simply an accident.

 

[BrendioEEE]

Isaiah 45:7
7I form light and create darkness; I bring prosperity and create calamity. I, the LORD, do all these things.

When literally translates directly from the original language it translates to:
"The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these."
When in context to previous verses it is also clear that he doesn't mean calamity as a whole. God is very clear about attacking evil, and destroying evil and such.

 

[Midwestcel]

When literally translates directly from the original language it translates to:
"The One forming light and creating darkness,
Causing well-being and creating calamity;
I am the Lord who does all these."
When in context to previous verses it is also clear that he doesn't mean calamity as a whole. God is very clear about attacking evil, and destroying evil and such.

Yahweh causes a lot of evil. He orders mass genocides, slavery, kills his own people, threatens people with cannibalism of their own children, has someone killed for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week, etc

 

[BrendioEEE]

Yahweh causes a lot of evil.

Does he?

He orders mass genocides

Sometimes mass genocides are necessary, lemme give you an example, if I have a bowl of skittles that I know people will eat from regardless of if I try to tell them not to, and 75% of the skittles will poison you. What's the best option? To just throw out and burn all the skittles to save others or to meticulously figure out which skittle are not poison?

slavery

Give an example of God ordering unjust slavery, unless you think slavery itself is bad, which i'd have to disagree with, for example a prisoner can be seen a slave, and under a proper system could benefit society as a prisoner such as with forced labor.

kills his own people

Also necessary sometimes, especially when you declare war on evil.

threatens people with cannibalism of their own children, has someone killed for picking up sticks on the wrong day of the week, etc

I'd like some context of the specific verses you're referencing, but honestly sounds kind of based.

 

[Midwestcel]

On Bible Slavery


I'll post all of the rest later

 

[Glokta]

We're God's unwanted children. He created Chad in his own image and gave woman to him be his companion while we are predestined to suffer in this life and the next.

 

[Midwestcel]

We're God's unwanted children. He created Chad in his own image and gave woman to him be his companion while we are predestined to suffer in this life and the next.

 

[Perseus]

I mostly think there are no gods at all but sometimes i feel i could be wrong and there is a demiurge that wants us all to suffer and the people who seem to have it good aren't actually real.

 

[littlemanhikicel]

Not a single synapse.

 

[BrendioEEE]

On Bible Slavery


I'll post all of the rest later

Excluding the verses that are unrelated to slavery, because we can get into how those are differentiated later, and slavery is a bit more of an important topic. As I said, slavery in and of itself is not bad, and in this context it was allowed to a certain people, at a certain time, against a certain people, in Leviticus. Keep in mind when it is said, "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you."

These pagan nations were worshipping Moloch, and other satanic tier Gods, they were literally sacrificing their children, and other nations children, brutally in my cases, many of these people from these nations eventually came to be what was known later in the bible as "pharisees" who eventually became what we know as Ashkenazi Jews, these were not people who were bringing their best my any means, they were very nasty. I can't really view slavery as unjust in that context, or in certain other contexts aswell.

Again, slavery still exists, for example with prisoners, and forced labor. Slavery in and of itself is not a bad thing, in certain contexts.

 

[Hate_my_life]

Maybe because its stated in religious scripture that this world is of Satan?

 

[Midwestcel]

Excluding the verses that are unrelated to slavery, because we can get into how those are differentiated later, and slavery is a bit more of an important topic. As I said, slavery in and of itself is not bad, and in this context it was allowed to a certain people, at a certain time, against a certain people, in Leviticus. Keep in mind when it is said, "As for your male and female slaves whom you may have—you may acquire male and female slaves from the pagan nations that are around you."

These pagan nations were worshipping Moloch, and other satanic tier Gods, they were literally sacrificing their children, and other nations children, brutally in my cases, many of these people from these nations eventually came to be what was known later in the bible as "pharisees" who eventually became what we know as Ashkenazi Jews, these were not people who were bringing their best my any means, they were very nasty. I can't really view slavery as unjust in that context, or in certain other contexts aswell.

Again, slavery still exists, for example with prisoners, and forced labor. Slavery in and of itself is not a bad thing, in certain contexts.

He also killed his own people with plagues and poisonous snakes for complaining about not having enough food and water in the middle of the desert.

 

[Ghost]

Even if there is a loving god, he doesn't love you. I mean, if Jeremy Meeks woke up today and thought "God must love me", he'd have a good point. Look at his life. But for an incel to think that, what is the basis for it? It's the same thing as saying Jesus loves the little children to a child dying of cancer. If there is a Jesus, he loves all of the healthy children, hence their health.

This world not all there is. There are worlds beyond this world

 

[Midwestcel]

This world not all there is. There are worlds beyond this world

Source?

 

[Zod]

Religion is the ultimate end game cope

 

[iblamemyself]

How can femoids and Chads not believe in a loving deity? They got it all, yet they treat it like trash and behave like animals.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

Religion is the ultimate end game cope

 

[Midwestcel]

How can femoids and Chads not believe in a loving deity? They got it all, yet they treat it like trash and behave like animals.

Knew a 6'6 Chad who was atheist.

 

[BrendioEEE]

He also killed his own people with plagues and poisonous snakes for complaining about not having enough food and water in the middle of the desert.

Context? Like I said sometimes this stuff is necessary. I'm not against killing, i'm against murder. There's a difference depending on the context, especially with declarations of war, and declarations of war can be declared on things such as evil.

 

[Bakura806]

Well if there is a god that exists then fuck him for making me look this way.

 

[Napoleon de Jizzbal]

Only belief in impermanent and limited gods is possible

 

[Midwestcel]

Context? Like I said sometimes this stuff is necessary. I'm not against killing, i'm against murder. There's a difference depending on the context, especially with declarations of war, and declarations of war can be declared on things such as evil.

What context could justify that and I could go through and list dozens or hundreds of similar instances. No one ever asks for context when the Bible says something good about Yahweh, they just accept it at face value.

 

[Tallcel]

I've grown to accept that gods were more like aliens that ancients couldn't comprehend. If not aliens they were from an advanced civilization that tried to help them out. But considering the vast size of the universe, visitation from at least a type 2 civ in the 4 billion years of this earth's history is not out of the question. Yeah they could have channeled into psi powers and did cool shit that made cavemen shit their pants.

I think there are powers beyond us but there could very well be the hyperdimensional answer to trolls (demons) that just pester you relentlessly. This is my theory. Even the afterlife could be fucked up and corrupt. So you were born with shit genes and were pissed at god about it? Well you become an even shittier lifeform next incarnation! Meanwhile chad gets exalted for his endless drunken orgies and fornication that the buybull said was bad as a shit test. You weren't supposed to believe that nonsense you gullible sap!

Even the bible is fucked (it did come from (((them))) after all). Think about the parable of the ten talents. Chad gets 10 while Virgil Incel gets one. Since chad had the capital by which to make increase, he gets rewarded, an Mr. hobo incel couldn't make a profit so that jackass of Hebrew deity takes his talent and gives chad additional increase. It sums up Cuckianity nicely.

I want to write fiction to spook the normies about the hell that awaits them in the beyond, much like Lovecraft.

Only belief in impermanent and limited gods is possible

That's what nordic peoples believed essentially. The idea of ragnarok and gods dying seems alien to the Abrahamic "mind"

 

[BrendioEEE]

What context could justify that

Context can justify many things. For example lets see I show you a video of someone getting brutally tortured, with no explanation, no context, no words, no sound, a horrendous video. Now what if afterwards I was to show you hard evidence that the man who was being tortured brutally killed and tortured children, or lead to the death/corruption/harm of many innocent people. Well suddenly the video would be a bit less dark, unless you're some pacifist cuck I suppose.

and I could go through and list dozens or hundreds of similar instances. No one ever asks for context when the Bible says something good about Yahweh, they just accept it at face value.

Some cringe /r/atheism tier strawman isn't really a good argument tho, the reason why most of the people who might have a jittery emotional reaction to verses they don't like to hear and say "it's out of context" are because they probably have been inherently brainwashed by society to think what is being said in the verse is bad, those people aren't me, I might agree with the verses "Extremism" and context will allow me to explain it in a moral fashion, probably in line with a more rational morality, such as one based off of Evolutionary Biology, which Christianity seems to be perfectly compatible with.

You're on an Incel forum where many people are experiencing extreme suffering and have come to the conclusion that only extreme solutions will solve their problems. Which is true, I would say actual Fundamentalist Christianity would probably be one of those solutions, but there are others aswell, but personally i'd say a form of Christian National Socialism would probably be the best solution to everyones problems period.