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Blackpill ‘Hookup culture’ is a myth. We are living in ‘hypergamy culture'

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MaxZM98

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(I tried uploading this to reddit to piss off normies but it didn’t upload.)

I hear people talk about 'hookup culture', but I don't think we can say that there is a hookup culture when the majority of men are not able to be a part of this 'culture'.

Unregulated hypergamy means that women are only going for the top ~20% of men. Unfortunately, it's mathematically impossible for all these women to pair up with this minority of men. There's not enough 'Chad' (top 20% males) to go around to satisfy all these women in monogamous relationships.

This means that, in order for all the women to have access to the the top 20% Chads, they must share Chad between themselves, either via polygyny or by taking turns with other women (which is another way of saying 'hooking up' / promiscuity).

Essentially there is no hookup culture, it's just females taking turns with Chad in order to satisfy their hypergamy. Calling it 'hookup culture' makes bottom 80% males feel like they're missing out if they can't find a girl to hookup with. In reality they were never meant to be a part of this culture to begin with.
 
no way is chad 1 in 5 men
 
no way is chad 1 in 5 men
Yes, 20% include Chadlites and a few HTN who can benefit from hookup culture as well (maybe the foid is drunk or went too long without Chad and has to drop her standards from 8/10+ to 7/10+)
 
(I tried uploading this to reddit to piss off normies but it didn’t upload.)

I hear people talk about 'hookup culture', but I don't think we can say that there is a hookup culture when the majority of men are not able to be a part of this 'culture'.

Unregulated hypergamy means that women are only going for the top ~20% of men. Unfortunately, it's mathematically impossible for all these women to pair up with this minority of men. There's not enough 'Chad' (top 20% males) to go around to satisfy all these women in monogamous relationships.

This means that, in order for all the women to have access to the the top 20% Chads, they must share Chad between themselves, either via polygyny or by taking turns with other women (which is another way of saying 'hooking up' / promiscuity).

Essentially there is no hookup culture, it's just females taking turns with Chad in order to satisfy their hypergamy. Calling it 'hookup culture' makes bottom 80% males feel like they're missing out if they can't find a girl to hookup with. In reality they were never meant to be a part of this culture to begin with.
Fool that I was I once tried explaining this concept to my sister. I made my case by using tinder and OKCupid statistics, and speed dating stats.

Needless to say that was one of the most unproductive conversations I have ever had.

You know the old phrase about how it’s very difficult if not impossible to convince someone if something true when their salary (or interests) depend on their not understanding it? That’s women in a nutshell — deep down they probably know at least some portion of the truth but that’s not really important to them.

Equality and an equitable society for all has never been their goal. Rather manipulating public opinion and shifting society to cater in their favor as much as they can possibly do is clearly the avenue they’ve chosen.

And the sad thing is it’s worked — we’ve already lost, we lost a long time ago. All I can do is try to black pill as many men as possible but it doesn’t seem to make a dent.

Real progress seems impossible so long as mainstream social media forces us out and carefully controls “the narrative”.

Sometimes I feel like I was happier when I bluepilled and religious. At least then I had hope, albeit false hope. I dunno man, some days I wish I was never born tbh. Going through life without hope with your only happiness coming from fiction and most of your time spent wage slaving away is not a life worth living seems to me.

Ironically middle eastern/Islamic society has likely achieved a more equitable outcome for both men and women.

Women are loved and cared for and have a valuable role in society and for their families while men are actually able to have a family and be the head of the household. Men are driven to provide and they have a stake in society because of their family and kids. If you don’t have those kinds of restrictions and designations you actually end up with a far less equitable society and outcome as the vast majority of men end up being bottom scum third class citizens in their own society. Look at what’s happened in the west — men don’t care anymore, we just do the bare minimum to keep a roof over our heads and to cope with fiction and porn. It’s pathetic. And women are more miserable than ever — despite what we’re told. When was the last time you met a woman that wasn’t on a million depression and anxiety meds? We didn’t evolve to operate like this.
 
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men don’t care anymore, we just do the bare minimum to keep a roof over our heads and to cope with fiction and porn
me for sure, all I feel like doing is LDARing.
Sometimes though I feel stupid for being like this only because I can’t get a foid. A lot of men back in colonial times left everything to build a life for themselves in the west and were happy being alone in a little cabin they built themselves with no foids within hundreds of miles. Or all those men working hard on the railroad or mining for specs of minerals with maybe a few hookers in town.
 
it is true that we live in a quasi polygamous society.the strangest part is how everyone has come to accept it.i am not even sure you can be called an ignorant when the evidence is right there in front of you.
 
Fool that I was I once tried explaining this concept to my sister. I made my case by using tinder and OKCupid statistics, and speed dating stats.

Needless to say that was one of the most unproductive conversations I have ever had.

You know the old phrase about how it’s very difficult if not impossible to convince someone if something true when their salary (or interests) depend on their not understanding it? That’s women in a nutshell — deep down they probably know at least some portion of the truth but that’s not really important to them.

Equality and an equitable society for all has never been their goal. Rather manipulating public opinion and shifting society to cater in their favor as much as they can possibly do is clearly the avenue they’ve chosen.

And the sad thing is it’s worked — we’ve already lost, we lost a long time ago. All I can do is try to black pill as many men as possible but it doesn’t seem to make a dent.

Real progress seems impossible so long as mainstream social media forces us out and carefully controls “the narrative”.

Sometimes I feel like I was happier when I bluepilled and religious. At least then I had hope, albeit false hope. I dunno man, some days I wish I was never born tbh. Going through life without hope with your only happiness coming from fiction and most of your time spent wage slaving away is not a life worth living seems to me.

Ironically middle eastern/Islamic society has likely achieved a more equitable outcome for both men and women.

Women are loved and cared for and have a valuable role in society and for their families while men are actually able to have a family and be the head of the household. Men are driven to provide and they have a stake in society because of their family and kids. If you don’t have those kinds of restrictions and designations you actually end up with a far less equitable society and outcome as the vast majority of men end up being bottom scum third class citizens in their own society. Look at what’s happened in the west — men don’t care anymore, we just do the bare minimum to keep a roof over our heads and to cope with fiction and porn. It’s pathetic. And women are more miserable than ever — despite what we’re told. When was the last time you met a woman that wasn’t on a million depression and anxiety meds? We didn’t evolve to operate like this.
yep.

men’s only value comes from their utility.
women have inherent value.
 
I like this guy's optimism.

It's worse than that.
Fool that I was I once tried explaining this concept to my sister. I made my case by using tinder and OKCupid statistics, and speed dating stats.

Needless to say that was one of the most unproductive conversations I have ever had.

You know the old phrase about how it’s very difficult if not impossible to convince someone if something true when their salary (or interests) depend on their not understanding it? That’s women in a nutshell — deep down they probably know at least some portion of the truth but that’s not really important to them.

Equality and an equitable society for all has never been their goal. Rather manipulating public opinion and shifting society to cater in their favor as much as they can possibly do is clearly the avenue they’ve chosen.

And the sad thing is it’s worked — we’ve already lost, we lost a long time ago. All I can do is try to black pill as many men as possible but it doesn’t seem to make a dent.

Real progress seems impossible so long as mainstream social media forces us out and carefully controls “the narrative”.

Sometimes I feel like I was happier when I bluepilled and religious. At least then I had hope, albeit false hope. I dunno man, some days I wish I was never born tbh. Going through life without hope with your only happiness coming from fiction and most of your time spent wage slaving away is not a life worth living seems to me.

Ironically middle eastern/Islamic society has likely achieved a more equitable outcome for both men and women.

Women are loved and cared for and have a valuable role in society and for their families while men are actually able to have a family and be the head of the household. Men are driven to provide and they have a stake in society because of their family and kids. If you don’t have those kinds of restrictions and designations you actually end up with a far less equitable society and outcome as the vast majority of men end up being bottom scum third class citizens in their own society. Look at what’s happened in the west — men don’t care anymore, we just do the bare minimum to keep a roof over our heads and to cope with fiction and porn. It’s pathetic. And women are more miserable than ever — despite what we’re told. When was the last time you met a woman that wasn’t on a million depression and anxiety meds? We didn’t evolve to operate like this.
In reality, a large amount of women are fat. If we're being honest, who wants one night stands with landwhales?

It's really about 7% of chads hooking up with the non fat 4+/10 non fatties.
 
Redditors would roast you over that 20% figure and the implication that 80% of men are virgins or had no hookups. It needs to be underline that 'the 80/20 rule' borrowed from the field of economics is more metaphorical and that the sexual market of socially libertarian societies is more of a bell curve.

Just like we don't have a 1% that owns trillions of dollars while the rest of the planet has literally 0$ in their bank account, or a 20% which does, or just like only a select elite of any sports enthusiasts are Olympians and only a select elite of chess players are titled players, there is a recognized elite of highly coveted men, who aren't even necessarily measured by their practical partner count - but by the number of women interested in them, since after all, a man who can afford to reject a 100 women is still such an elite for our purposes.

Starting from the '1%' - Justin Bieber like idols, celebrities, models, etc that literally have endless hordes of women begging to crawl into their limousines or hotel rooms, down to the 15, or 20 , but no more than that of Chads that everybody knows as the 'players' or 'hot guys' of the college/social circle/group, then a steep curve toward the center of the bull curve and the majority, which would be the average male ( with the average national partner count ), and then the 20% of borderline incels scraping the bottom of the barrel ( Guys that get rejected almost all of the time but end up with one girlfriend or two in their lives who finally settled for them ), and finally us.

When it comes to hookups though, it is correct to say that women ( By their own admission in literally any youtube interview of club thots/college girls too by the way ) will always prioritize the top 20% to an insane degree and only hook up with the normie majority under desperation, special circumstances, and general unavailability of Chad, which is enough for normies to get their 10-15 partner counts or whatever the average is over a lifetime and scream about how "blackpill isn't real!!", while still maintaining an enormously vast gap between themselves and Chad.

Another thing normies don't understand is, which I made sure to stress in the beginning, is that Chad's physical partner count in comparison to theirs does not reflect on the gap of female interest between Chad and themselves. If a normie had 10 and Chad had 50, that is usually down to the fact that many Chads are extremely picky or they fall in love with the girls and spend a hefty amount of years committed only to one. However, the number of sexual offers/expressions of desire that Chad gets is in the hundreds and thousands, while the low and mid tier normie's is much closer to his actual count - maybe 2x as many at best. At the same time, there are of course many documented cases of horndog Chads out there who would gladly act on any offer, and these guy's counts are usually well and truly in the hundreds.
 
Redditors would roast you over that 20% figure and the implication that 80% of men are virgins or had no hookups. It needs to be underline that 'the 80/20 rule' borrowed from the field of economics is more metaphorical and that the sexual market of socially libertarian societies is more of a bell curve.

Just like we don't have a 1% that owns trillions of dollars while the rest of the planet has literally 0$ in their bank account, or a 20% which does, or just like only a select elite of any sports enthusiasts are Olympians and only a select elite of chess players are titled players, there is a recognized elite of highly coveted men, who aren't even necessarily measured by their practical partner count - but by the number of women interested in them, since after all, a man who can afford to reject a 100 women is still such an elite for our purposes.

Starting from the '1%' - Justin Bieber like idols, celebrities, models, etc that literally have endless hordes of women begging to crawl into their limousines or hotel rooms, down to the 15, or 20 , but no more than that of Chads that everybody knows as the 'players' or 'hot guys' of the college/social circle/group, then a steep curve toward the center of the bull curve and the majority, which would be the average male ( with the average national partner count ), and then the 20% of borderline incels scraping the bottom of the barrel ( Guys that get rejected almost all of the time but end up with one girlfriend or two in their lives who finally settled for them ), and finally us.

When it comes to hookups though, it is correct to say that women ( By their own admission in literally any youtube interview of club thots/college girls too by the way ) will always prioritize the top 20% to an insane degree and only hook up with the normie majority under desperation, special circumstances, and general unavailability of Chad, which is enough for normies to get their 10-15 partner counts or whatever the average is over a lifetime and scream about how "blackpill isn't real!!", while still maintaining an enormously vast gap between themselves and Chad.

Another thing normies don't understand is, which I made sure to stress in the beginning, is that Chad's physical partner count in comparison to theirs does not reflect on the gap of female interest between Chad and themselves. If a normie had 10 and Chad had 50, that is usually down to the fact that many Chads are extremely picky or they fall in love with the girls and spend a hefty amount of years committed only to one. However, the number of sexual offers/expressions of desire that Chad gets is in the hundreds and thousands, while the low and mid tier normie's is much closer to his actual count - maybe 2x as many at best. At the same time, there are of course many documented cases of horndog Chads out there who would gladly act on any offer, and these guy's counts are usually well and truly in the hundreds.
Extremely good comment mate, saving this. Well put
 
Redditors would roast you over that 20% figure and the implication that 80% of men are virgins or had no hookups. It needs to be underline that 'the 80/20 rule' borrowed from the field of economics is more metaphorical and that the sexual market of socially libertarian societies is more of a bell curve.

Just like we don't have a 1% that owns trillions of dollars while the rest of the planet has literally 0$ in their bank account, or a 20% which does, or just like only a select elite of any sports enthusiasts are Olympians and only a select elite of chess players are titled players, there is a recognized elite of highly coveted men, who aren't even necessarily measured by their practical partner count - but by the number of women interested in them, since after all, a man who can afford to reject a 100 women is still such an elite for our purposes.

Starting from the '1%' - Justin Bieber like idols, celebrities, models, etc that literally have endless hordes of women begging to crawl into their limousines or hotel rooms, down to the 15, or 20 , but no more than that of Chads that everybody knows as the 'players' or 'hot guys' of the college/social circle/group, then a steep curve toward the center of the bull curve and the majority, which would be the average male ( with the average national partner count ), and then the 20% of borderline incels scraping the bottom of the barrel ( Guys that get rejected almost all of the time but end up with one girlfriend or two in their lives who finally settled for them ), and finally us.

When it comes to hookups though, it is correct to say that women ( By their own admission in literally any youtube interview of club thots/college girls too by the way ) will always prioritize the top 20% to an insane degree and only hook up with the normie majority under desperation, special circumstances, and general unavailability of Chad, which is enough for normies to get their 10-15 partner counts or whatever the average is over a lifetime and scream about how "blackpill isn't real!!", while still maintaining an enormously vast gap between themselves and Chad.

Another thing normies don't understand is, which I made sure to stress in the beginning, is that Chad's physical partner count in comparison to theirs does not reflect on the gap of female interest between Chad and themselves. If a normie had 10 and Chad had 50, that is usually down to the fact that many Chads are extremely picky or they fall in love with the girls and spend a hefty amount of years committed only to one. However, the number of sexual offers/expressions of desire that Chad gets is in the hundreds and thousands, while the low and mid tier normie's is much closer to his actual count - maybe 2x as many at best. At the same time, there are of course many documented cases of horndog Chads out there who would gladly act on any offer, and these guy's counts are usually well and truly in the hundreds.
Big iq
 

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