Hitler on Jewish infighting and lack of creativity

[AsiaCel]

I have highlighted important words and sentences.

The Jew offers the most striking contrast to the Aryan. There is
probably no other people in the world who have so developed the instinct
of self-preservation as the so-called 'chosen' people. The best proof of
this statement is found in the simple fact that this race still exists.
Where can another people be found that in the course of the last two
thousand years has undergone so few changes in mental outlook and
character as the Jewish people? And yet what other people has taken such
a constant part in the great revolutions? But even after having passed
through the most gigantic catastrophes that have overwhelmed mankind,
the Jews remain the same as ever. What an infinitely tenacious
will-to-live, to preserve one's kind, is demonstrated by that fact!

The intellectual faculties of the Jew have been trained through
thousands of years. To-day the Jew is looked upon as specially
'cunning'; and in a certain sense he has been so throughout the ages.
His intellectual powers, however, are not the result of an inner
evolution but rather have been shaped by the object-lessons which the
Jew has received from others. The human spirit cannot climb upwards
without taking successive steps. For every step upwards it needs the
foundation of what has been constructed before--the past--which in, the
comprehensive sense here employed, can have been laid only in a general
civilization. All thinking originates only to a very small degree in
personal experience. The largest part is based on the accumulated
experiences of the past. The general level of civilization provides the
individual, who in most cases is not consciously aware of the fact, with
such an abundance of preliminary knowledge that with this equipment he
can more easily take further steps on the road of progress. The boy of
to-day, for example, grows up among such an overwhelming mass of
technical achievement which has accumulated during the last century that
he takes as granted many things which a hundred years ago were still
mysteries even to the greatest minds of those times. Yet these things
that are not so much a matter of course are of enormous importance to
those who would understand the progress we have made in these matters
and would carry on that progress a step farther. If a man of genius
belonging to the 'twenties of the last century were to arise from his
grave to-day he would find it more difficult to understand our present
age than the contemporary boy of fifteen years of age who may even have
only an average intelligence. The man of genius, thus come back from the
past, would need to provide himself with an extraordinary amount of
preliminary information which our contemporary youth receive
automatically, so to speak, during the time they are growing up among
the products of our modern civilization.

Since the Jew--for reasons that I shall deal with immediately--never had
a civilization of his own, he has always been furnished by others with a
basis for his: intellectual work. His intellect has always developed by
the use of those cultural achievements which he has found ready-to-hand
around him.

The process has never been the reverse.

For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
over.

It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only
apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the
individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the
common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony
disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord
only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them.
Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism
appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in
filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one
another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of
the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit,
would prevent this struggle from developing.

Therefore it would be a complete mistake to interpret the mutual help
which the Jews render one another when they have to fight--or, to put it
more accurately, to exploit--their fellow being, as the expression of a
certain idealistic spirit of sacrifice.

Here again the Jew merely follows the call of his individual egotism.
That is why the Jewish State, which ought to be a vital organization to
serve the purpose of preserving or increasing the race, has absolutely
no territorial boundaries. For the territorial delimitation of a State
always demands a certain idealism of spirit on the part of the race
which forms that State and especially a proper acceptance of the idea of
work. A State which is territorially delimited cannot be established or
maintained unless the general attitude towards work be a positive one.
If this attitude be lacking, then the necessary basis of a civilization
is also lacking.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with
which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a
culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the
product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands
of the Jew.

In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in
relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in
mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and
consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize
that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture
and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew
comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes
something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word,
of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are
characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of
civilization.

To what extent the Jew appropriates the civilization built up by
others--or rather corrupts it, to speak more accurately--is indicated by
the fact that he cultivates chiefly the art which calls for the smallest
amount of original invention, namely the dramatic art. And even here he
is nothing better than a kind of juggler or, perhaps more correctly
speaking, a kind of monkey imitator; for in this domain also he lacks
the creative elan which is necessary for the production of all really
great work. Even here, therefore, he is not a creative genius but rather
a superficial imitator who, in spite of all his retouching and tricks,
cannot disguise the fact that there is no inner vitality in the shape he
gives his products. At this juncture the Jewish Press comes in and
renders friendly assistance by shouting hosannas over the head of even
the most ordinary bungler of a Jew, until the rest of the world is
stampeded into thinking that the object of so much praise must really be
an artist, whereas in reality he may be nothing more than a low-class
mimic.

No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has
been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element
in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect
will never be constructive but always destructive. At best it may serve
as a stimulus in rare cases but only within the meaning of the poet's
lines: 'THE POWER WHICH ALWAYS WILLS THE BAD, AND ALWAYS WORKS THE GOOD'
(KRAFT, DIE STETS DAS BÖSE WILL UND STETS DAS GUTE SCHAFFT). (Note 15) It
is not through his help but in spite of his help that mankind makes any
progress.

 

[Emba]

Yep

 

[Veyron]

ok

 

[LUCK]

Giving Jews a land to settle on was the biggest mistake in modern history. The very existence of a Jewish civilization has multiplied their pack behavior by tenfold

 

[endoftheskies]

I have highlighted important words and sentences.

The Jew offers the most striking contrast to the Aryan. There is
probably no other people in the world who have so developed the instinct
of self-preservation as the so-called 'chosen' people. The best proof of
this statement is found in the simple fact that this race still exists.
Where can another people be found that in the course of the last two
thousand years has undergone so few changes in mental outlook and
character as the Jewish people? And yet what other people has taken such
a constant part in the great revolutions? But even after having passed
through the most gigantic catastrophes that have overwhelmed mankind,
the Jews remain the same as ever. What an infinitely tenacious
will-to-live, to preserve one's kind, is demonstrated by that fact!

The intellectual faculties of the Jew have been trained through
thousands of years. To-day the Jew is looked upon as specially
'cunning'; and in a certain sense he has been so throughout the ages.
His intellectual powers, however, are not the result of an inner
evolution but rather have been shaped by the object-lessons which the
Jew has received from others. The human spirit cannot climb upwards
without taking successive steps. For every step upwards it needs the
foundation of what has been constructed before--the past--which in, the
comprehensive sense here employed, can have been laid only in a general
civilization. All thinking originates only to a very small degree in
personal experience. The largest part is based on the accumulated
experiences of the past. The general level of civilization provides the
individual, who in most cases is not consciously aware of the fact, with
such an abundance of preliminary knowledge that with this equipment he
can more easily take further steps on the road of progress. The boy of
to-day, for example, grows up among such an overwhelming mass of
technical achievement which has accumulated during the last century that
he takes as granted many things which a hundred years ago were still
mysteries even to the greatest minds of those times. Yet these things
that are not so much a matter of course are of enormous importance to
those who would understand the progress we have made in these matters
and would carry on that progress a step farther. If a man of genius
belonging to the 'twenties of the last century were to arise from his
grave to-day he would find it more difficult to understand our present
age than the contemporary boy of fifteen years of age who may even have
only an average intelligence. The man of genius, thus come back from the
past, would need to provide himself with an extraordinary amount of
preliminary information which our contemporary youth receive
automatically, so to speak, during the time they are growing up among
the products of our modern civilization.

Since the Jew--for reasons that I shall deal with immediately--never had
a civilization of his own, he has always been furnished by others with a
basis for his: intellectual work. His intellect has always developed by
the use of those cultural achievements which he has found ready-to-hand
around him.

The process has never been the reverse.

For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
over.

It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only
apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the
individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the
common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony
disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord
only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them.
Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism
appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in
filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one
another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of
the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit,
would prevent this struggle from developing.

Therefore it would be a complete mistake to interpret the mutual help
which the Jews render one another when they have to fight--or, to put it
more accurately, to exploit--their fellow being, as the expression of a
certain idealistic spirit of sacrifice.

Here again the Jew merely follows the call of his individual egotism.
That is why the Jewish State, which ought to be a vital organization to
serve the purpose of preserving or increasing the race, has absolutely
no territorial boundaries. For the territorial delimitation of a State
always demands a certain idealism of spirit on the part of the race
which forms that State and especially a proper acceptance of the idea of
work. A State which is territorially delimited cannot be established or
maintained unless the general attitude towards work be a positive one.
If this attitude be lacking, then the necessary basis of a civilization
is also lacking.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with
which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a
culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the
product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands
of the Jew.

In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in
relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in
mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and
consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize
that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture
and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew
comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes
something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word,
of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are
characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of
civilization.

To what extent the Jew appropriates the civilization built up by
others--or rather corrupts it, to speak more accurately--is indicated by
the fact that he cultivates chiefly the art which calls for the smallest
amount of original invention, namely the dramatic art. And even here he
is nothing better than a kind of juggler or, perhaps more correctly
speaking, a kind of monkey imitator; for in this domain also he lacks
the creative elan which is necessary for the production of all really
great work. Even here, therefore, he is not a creative genius but rather
a superficial imitator who, in spite of all his retouching and tricks,
cannot disguise the fact that there is no inner vitality in the shape he
gives his products. At this juncture the Jewish Press comes in and
renders friendly assistance by shouting hosannas over the head of even
the most ordinary bungler of a Jew, until the rest of the world is
stampeded into thinking that the object of so much praise must really be
an artist, whereas in reality he may be nothing more than a low-class
mimic.

No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has
been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element
in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect
will never be constructive but always destructive. At best it may serve
as a stimulus in rare cases but only within the meaning of the poet's
lines: 'THE POWER WHICH ALWAYS WILLS THE BAD, AND ALWAYS WORKS THE GOOD'
(KRAFT, DIE STETS DAS BÖSE WILL UND STETS DAS GUTE SCHAFFT). (Note 15) It
is not through his help but in spite of his help that mankind makes any
progress.

water. kikes are retarded and evil.

 

[endoftheskies]

Giving Jews a land to settle on was the biggest mistake in modern history. The very existence of a Jewish civilization has multiplied their pack behavior by tenfold

an place for the jews has existed ever since the jewish colonisation of palestine. it was palestine then the arabs took it over then the british and then the jews again. then the ottomans also took it over. what we have today is an jewish ethnostate.

 

[Excalibur]

kikes are retarded

They are not. Say what you want about them, but dumb is last adjective I’d use to describe the Jews as a people.

 

[endoftheskies]

They are not. Say what you want about them, but dumb is last adjective I’d use to describe the Jews as a people.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with
which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a
culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the
product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands
of the Jew.

In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in
relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in
mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and
consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize
that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture
and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew
comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes
something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word,
of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are
characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of
civilization.

chat? what? legit in the post.

 

[Excalibur]

chat? what? legit in the post.

Hitler outlines how the Jews use their intelligence: to corrupt and destroy rather than create. He does not say that they have a low intelligence like sub-Saharans.

Learn to read.

 

[endoftheskies]

Hitler outlines how the Jews use their intelligence: to corrupt and destroy rather than create. He does not say that they have a low intelligence like sub-Saharans.

Learn to read.

'apparently endowed'. says that they just create nothing and steal from others. "
Since the Jew--for reasons that I shall deal with immediately--never had
a civilization of his own, he has always been furnished by others with a
basis for his: intellectual work. His intellect has always developed by
the use of those cultural achievements which he has found ready-to-hand
around him." the entire post is talking about them stealing shit and saying that they lack capacity to create new shit. what???

 

[Excalibur]

'apparently endowed'. says that they just create nothing and steal from others. "
Since the Jew--for reasons that I shall deal with immediately--never had
a civilization of his own, he has always been furnished by others with a
basis for his: intellectual work. His intellect has always developed by
the use of those cultural achievements which he has found ready-to-hand
around him." the entire post is talking about them stealing shit and saying that they lack capacity to create new shit. what???

That's my point, retard. Their intelligence is comparable to that of a con artist. They come up with clever ways to manipulate and steal from others. It's quite different than the kind of intelligence a civilization was created with, but it's intelligence nonetheless. A race of retards would not be able to infiltrate a society and take control. Otherwise blacks would have been able to do it too.

 

[endoftheskies]

That's my point, retard. Their intelligence is comparable to that of a con artist. They come up with clever ways to manipulate and steal from others. It's quite different than the kind of intelligence a civilization was created with, but it's intelligence nonetheless. A race of retards would not be able to infiltrate a society and take control. Otherwise blacks would have been able to do it too.

they lack the capacity for individual and creative work. they are retards. con artists do better than the kikes. lmao. if they can't produce anything of value, what good is their society. they lack the inteligence to produce work or high quality work at that. to me, that means they are idiotic and stupid. An animal pretending to be human, doesn't make it human. Just because there is the veneer of inteligence, doesn't mean inteligence exists. Its all animalistic tendencies and instincts. Again retard. An animal faking or pretending to be inteligent, doesn't make it so. An animal pretending or faking emotion doesn't make it emotional.

 

[LUCK]

a place for the jews has existed ever since the jewish colonisation of palestine. it was palestine then the arabs took it over then the british and then the jews again. then the ottomans also took it over. what we have today is an jewish ethnostate.

Giving Jews a land to settle on was the biggest mistake in modern history. The very existence of a Jewish civilization has multiplied their pack behavior by tenfold.

 

[Excalibur]

they lack the capacity for individual and creative work. they are retards. con artists do better than the kikes. lmao. if they can't produce anything of value, what good is their society. they lack the inteligence to produce work or high quality work at that. to me, that means they are idiotic and stupid. An animal pretending to be human, doesn't make it human. Just because there is the veneer of inteligence, doesn't mean inteligence exists. Its all animalistic tendencies and instincts. Again retard. An animal faking or pretending to be inteligent, doesn't make it so. An animal pretending or faking emotion doesn't make it emotional.

Again, you’re completely missing my point. Hitler’s thesis is that the Jews lack the capacity for high culture, not that they have no intelligence at all.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with
which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a
culture of their own.

The Jews have managed to corrupt and manipulate Western civilization so that it serves them. If they lack intelligence and are therefore retarded, how could they have infiltrated the most intellectually impressive civilization of all time? Let me not even begin with IQ and the tendency of Jews to score high on these tests.

 

[manlet4life]

Imagine if Stefanie didnt reject him

 

[AsiaCel]

Imagine if Stefanie didnt reject him

 

[endoftheskies]

Again, you’re completely missing my point. Hitler’s thesis is that the Jews lack the capacity for high culture, not that they have no intelligence at all.

The Jews have managed to corrupt and manipulate Western civilization so that it serves them. If they lack intelligence and are therefore retarded, how could they have infiltrated the most intellectually impressive civilization of all time? Let me not even begin with IQ and the tendency of Jews to score high on these tests.

Chat. Pretension is not equal to inteligence. And pretension does not require any inteligence at all. Anybody can pretend lmao. Niggers can inflitrate so can spics. Spics don't do this + niggers don't because they are too divided as an nation.

 

[Antorian]

Giving Jews a land to settle on was the biggest mistake in modern history. The very existence of a Jewish civilization has multiplied their pack behavior by tenfold

I would rather them be liquidated, but at the very least Israel serves as a containment for lots of them that would otherwise be plaguing other countries.

 

[endoftheskies]

I would rather them be liquidated, but at the very least Israel serves as a containment for lots of them that would otherwise be plaguing other countries.

here is the thing. an place for the jews has existed since forever. you just gave them an fascist kike ethnostate where they can kill goyims.

 

[Excalibur]

Chat. Pretension is not equal to inteligence. And pretension does not require any inteligence at all. Anybody can pretend lmao.

That requires intelligence. To manipulate someone, you first have to understand them and use information to get them to do what you want them to do. Someone who is objectively stupid cannot recognize the perspective of others.

Spics don't do this + niggers don't because they are too divided as an nation.

Then explain gypsies. How come they never managed infiltrate and enslave their host countries? It’s because, unlike Jews, they’re low-IQ.

 

[endoftheskies]

Then explain gypsies. How come they never managed infiltrate and enslave their host countries? It’s because, unlike Jews, they’re low-IQ.

cuz they were discriminated against and people went on yearly genocides on them, once they tried to integrate/infiltrate their societies. they made genociding gypsies an festival in the netherlands lmao. did the netherlands do that to the jews? no.

 

[Excalibur]

cuz they were discriminated against and people went on yearly genocides on them

The same happened to kikes in Europe retard. Have you never heard of pogroms?

 

[endoftheskies]

That requires intelligence. To manipulate someone, you first have to understand them and use information to get them to do what you want them to do. Someone who is objectively stupid cannot recognize the perspective of others.

stupid. pretending or feigning is something that anybody can do. you don't need to understand others. they will tell what they want in their actions and speech lmao. again. animals can do this. they can manipulate/coerce their victims. it doesn't require inteligence or wit to do so. it doesn't require inteligence to deceive or manipulate/trick. they are animals that feign inteligence/wit, and have none of it.

 

[endoftheskies]

The same happened to kikes in Europe retard. Have you never heard of pogroms?

not to the extent it happened to the gypsies. the gypsies had like genocides on them yearly. you were hanged if you were an gypsy. they were amputated if you were an gypsy and sold as slaves. what europe did to the gypsies is far more brutal than what it did to the jews. + this happened very rarely and was in response to mass strain/endemic poverty.

 

[Excalibur]

pretending or feigning is something that anybody can do.

Doing it well is not something anyone can do. You’re delusional if you believe anyone can be good at manipulation.

it doesn't require inteligence or wit to do so.

Financial manipulation, for which Jews are so famous, requires intelligence. If you think a retard with an IQ of 70 can start and run a bank, I don't know what to tell you.

it doesn't require inteligence to deceive or manipulate/trick.

It does. Otherwise people of average or even high intelligence wouldn’t fall for scams.

not to the extent it happened to the gypsies. the gypsies had like genocides on them yearly. you were hanged if you were an gypsy. they were amputated if you were an gypsy and sold as slaves. what europe did to the gypsies is far more brutal than what it did to the jews.

Jews were known as Christ-killers who sacrificed Christian children in blood rituals. They were infinitely more hated than gypsies. Unlike gypsies, however, they were intelligent enough to conceal their identity and begin lending money and thus getting their host nations to depend on them.

 

[endoftheskies]

Doing it well is not something anyone can do. You’re delusional if you believe anyone can be good at manipulation.

Financial manipulation, for which Jews are so famous, requires intelligence. If you think a retard with an IQ of 70 can start and run a bank, I don't know what to tell you.


It does. Otherwise people of average or even high intelligence wouldn’t fall for scams.

Jews were known as Christ-killers who sacrificed Christian children in blood rituals. They were infinitely more hated than gypsies. Unlike gypsies, however, they were intelligent enough to conceal their identity and begin lending money and thus getting their host nations to depend on them.

the roma were persecuted more. the kikes were never killed outright unless in very rare cases. in which the roma had like every single day of being genocided. again, if an animal feigns intelligence that doesn't make it intelligent. it still is a an animal. the jews are animals, that feign inteligence, to trick their prey and victims. if they feign inteligence, that doesn't mean they are inteligent. plus again, usury contributed far more to financial fraud lol. again. despite their perception as 'christ-killers', the kikes weren't as hated as the roma, since the roma was perceived as carriers of dieases, or literally hellspawn or what not.

 

[Excalibur]

if an animal feigns intelligence that doesn't make it intelligent

Non sequitur. Your example makes zero sense as animals cannot pretend to be intelligent.

They aren’t sentient to begin with.

roma was perceived as carriers of dieases, or literally hellspawn or what not

Jews were seen as the synagogue of satan and the ones who started the bubonic plague.

plus again, usury contributed far more to financial fraud lol.

I don’t understand what’s your point here.

the kikes were never killed outright unless in very rare cases.

Pogroms and mass expulsions happened all the time.

 

[Pikacel]

they lack the capacity for individual and creative work. they are retards. con artists do better than the kikes. lmao. if they can't produce anything of value, what good is their society. they lack the inteligence to produce work or high quality work at that. to me, that means they are idiotic and stupid. An animal pretending to be human, doesn't make it human. Just because there is the veneer of inteligence, doesn't mean inteligence exists. Its all animalistic tendencies and instincts. Again retard. An animal faking or pretending to be inteligent, doesn't make it so. An animal pretending or faking emotion doesn't make it emotional.

Nah Jews are legit skilled at moving around value and exploiting usury.

As the other guy said, if Jews are low IQ then how come Irish Travellers and Roma failed to assert international influence and wealth despite them being essentially the same thing

It’s obviously because Jews are IQmaxxed and learned people while Roma/pikeys have myopic retarded ‘high T’ cultures

 

[endoftheskies]

Non sequitur. Your example makes zero sense as animals cannot pretend to be intelligent.

They aren’t sentient to begin with.

Jews were seen as the synagogue of satan and the ones who started the bubonic plague.

I don’t understand what’s your point here.

Pogroms and mass expulsions happened all the time.

its not an non-sequitir. it completely makes logical sense. you can fake being or not having these attributes. i.e the turing test, an machine can just fake having these signs, without actually exhibiting or having the mental faculties for these signs.
if animals feign inteligence to kill their prey that doesn't make them inteligence. they just have to fake inteligence to order to get their prey.
Roma are always hated universally, they were seen as the spawn of satan, as low-iq retarded niggers, and as shit skins, or as an murderous animals to be culled. just because you perceive these traits or these ideas happening, that doesn't mean that they have these traits. lmao. idiotic idea. its an black box.

 

[endoftheskies]

Nah Jews are legit skilled at moving around value and exploiting usury.

As the other guy said, if Jews are low IQ then how come Irish Travellers and Roma failed to assert international influence and wealth despite them being essentially the same thing

It’s obviously because Jews are IQmaxxed and learned people while Roma/pikeys have myopic retarded ‘high T’ cultures

ever heard of the turing test. an machine can just fake being inteligent or perceived as inteligent without having all of the signs or mental faculties for it and be perceived as inteligent by others.

 

[endoftheskies]

Nah Jews are legit skilled at moving around value and exploiting usury.

As the other guy said, if Jews are low IQ then how come Irish Travellers and Roma failed to assert international influence and wealth despite them being essentially the same thing

It’s obviously because Jews are IQmaxxed and learned people while Roma/pikeys have myopic retarded ‘high T’ cultures

Non sequitur. Your example makes zero sense as animals cannot pretend to be intelligent.

They aren’t sentient to begin with.

Jews were seen as the synagogue of satan and the ones who started the bubonic plague.

I don’t understand what’s your point here.

Pogroms and mass expulsions happened all the time.

not an non-sequiter completely easy to understand.
my formal argument: One does not need the essence of high intelligence to manipulate or lure others. Intelligence can be simulated via strategic projection, just as an animal feigns understanding to capture prey. What matters is the effect of the projection in the relational network, not the intrinsic depth of cognition. Essence is different from an being's accidental properties. The entity exists in an relational space with others, by producing what others deem as inteligent, the entity alters relational dynamics in its own favor. Manipulation or luring does not require full rational inteligence, it only requires behavioral sufficency. Ontologically, the ability to achieve goals via observable cues is sufficient to accomplish effect, regardless of internal cognitive depth. Thus, the essence of manipulation is functional, not intellectual. High intelligence is not necessary only the ability to project the appearance of understanding.
my informal argument: you don't need high inteligence to manipulate or deceive, it only requires behavioral sufficency + observation, and is not linked to one's cognitive depth. animals feigning inteligence don't make them inteligent. what matters is other's perception of you, and by outputing skills and signals which others deem sufficient you change them in your behavior. or towards you. the ablity to achieve goals via cues is enough and does not require inteligence, you just need to project the apperance of understanding.
Example: The Turing Test.
do you need that with crayons or are you good now?
plus. the irish are an bad example, since like they almost beat the kikes in how much governments and companies they control. plus they are incredibly wealthy for an ethnic group.
and the roma and gypises faced far more hardships than the kikes ever did.
and here is the nice part:
High rational intelligence might hinder the ability to project these cues and might cost more in the long term than functional behaviors could. As one's application of rational inteligence might be faulty, and lead them to overoptimize and overanalyze everything leading them to output negative perceptions of one self, and negative social cues.
QED.
im not replying anymore to this thread

 

[Excalibur]

its an non-sequitir. it completely makes logical sense.

Contradicted yourself.

if animals feign inteligence to kill their prey that doesn't make them inteligence.

They don’t feign intelligence. They have no concept of intelligence.

Roma are always hated universally, they were seen as the spawn of satan, as low-iq retarded niggers, and as shit skins, or as an murderous animals to be culled.

Okay? Jews were out condemned as the synagogue of satan by Jesus in the Bible or at least that’s how it was interpreted. Medieval Europeans had every reason to hate kikes.

you can fake being or not having these attributes. i.e the turing test, an machine can just fake having these signs, without actually exhibiting or having the mental faculties for these signs

The difference is that Jewish intelligence has yielded results that only benefit them and are detrimental to everyone else. If they had no intelligence, they would not have been able to achieve results in the first place.

One does not need the essence of high intelligence to manipulate or lure others. Intelligence can be simulated via strategic projection, just as an animal feigns understanding to capture prey. What matters is the effect of the projection in the relational network, not the intrinsic depth of cognition. Essence is different from an being's accidental properties. The entity exists in an relational space with others, by producing what others deem as inteligent, the entity alters relational dynamics in its own favor. Manipulation or luring does not require full rational inteligence, it only requires behavioral sufficency. Ontologically, the ability to achieve goals via observable cues is sufficient to accomplish effect, regardless of internal cognitive depth. Thus, the essence of manipulation is functional, not intellectual. High intelligence is not necessary only the ability to project the appearance of understanding.

Word salad. You’re losing the argument so you’ve resorted to throwing around jargon to sound deep.

I think what you're saying is that mindless instincts can sometimes look like intelligence, like a spider luring its prey into its web, for example. The thing is. manipulation, by definition, involves understanding another person's mind and using it to influence them. A spider doesn't think about its prey, it just does what it instinctively does. The end result may be predatory, but that is very different from a financial scheme to rob its victims of their money. A successful plan requires understanding your victims and their intentions and planning what can and cannot happen. That is a form of intelligence.

 

[endoftheskies]

Contradicted yourself.

its an spelling mistake not that deep.

 

[endoftheskies]

Word salad. You’re losing the argument so you’ve resorted to throwing around jargon to sound deep.

you can't dismiss my ontological argument because its 'word salad'. it makes perfect sense.

 

[endoftheskies]

Okay? Jews were out condemned as the synagogue of satan by Jesus in the Bible or at least that’s how it was interpreted. Medieval Europeans had every reason to hate kikes.

kikes were dispersed and not centralized + they faced far less than the roma, who were called way more and way worse stuff and stereotypes.

 

[endoftheskies]

I think what you're saying is that mindless instincts can sometimes look like intelligence, like a spider luring its prey into its web, for example. The thing is. manipulation, by definition, involves understanding another person's mind and using it to influence them. A spider doesn't think about its prey, it just does what it instinctively does. The end result may be predatory, but that is very different from a financial scheme to rob its victims of their money. A successful plan requires understanding your victims and their intentions and planning what can and cannot happen. That is a form of intelligence.

The first part is kinda correct agree. you misunderstand. manipulation does not require high iq. it just requires you to output the correct social cues and behavior which you exhibit and observe from others. this is not indictive of real rational inteligence as it is functional and behaviorally sufficient. and only hits to ones accidental properties and not their ontological properties. high rational inteligence might led an person to overoptimise and overanalyis. one just needs the ablity to project inteligence. its the turing test. one doesn't need to be an human to pass the test, just need to output signals that appear human like. Manipulation also revolves on these social cues, and the ablity to output them correctly, the projection of such social cues cannot be given to rational inteligence, as rational inteligence leads an person to overoptimise and overanalysis, and leads them to make faulty errors and mistakes. it is an functional behavior, and high rational inteligence for this behavior is costly. Feigning inteligence requires simplicity and heuristics and not deep reasoning. you only need observation of your environment and heuristics to do this. An lion goes after and identifies his victim and calculates the cost/heuristics of doing so. That is not rational inteligence or behavior.

 

[Excalibur]

you can't dismiss my ontological argument because its 'word salad'.

I can. You are obfuscating your point by using philosophical words that are not necessary and have little to do with the topic. For example, intelligence isn’t an "essence", it’s simply a behavioral trait.

Also, you keep using human-like language to describe animalistic processes in nature. That makes no sense. Animals do NOT pretend to understand as they cannot understand at all.

The first part is kinda correct agree. you misunderstand. manipulation does not require high iq. it just requires you to output the correct social cues and behavior which you exhibit and observe from others. this is not indictive of real rational inteligence as it is functional and behaviorally sufficient. and only hits to ones accidental properties and not their ontological properties. high rational inteligence might led an person to overoptimise and overanalyis. one just needs the ablity to project inteligence. its the turing test. one doesn't need to be an human to pass the test, just need to output signals that appear human like. Manipulation also revolves on these social cues, and the ablity to output them correctly, the projection of such social cues cannot be given to rational inteligence, as rational inteligence leads an person to overoptimise and overanalysis, and leads them to make faulty errors and mistakes. it is an functional behavior, and high rational inteligence for this behavior is costly. Feigning inteligence requires simplicity and heuristics and not deep reasoning. you only need observation of your environment and heuristics to do this. An lion goes after and identifies his victim and calculates the cost/heuristics of doing so. That is not rational inteligence or behavior.

What’s being argued is over whether or not manipulation requires intelligence, not whether it requires exceptionally high intelligence. Stop trying to change the subject. Imitation isn’t the same thing as manipulation. Mimicry might fool someone once, but not always. Manipulation requires adaptive intelligence which recognizes when to change tactics and plan for it accordingly. That’s more than just mindless instinct. And Turing Test doesn’t mean intelligence can be faked. it measures whether a computer can show intelligent behavior consistently, which implies intelligence. Also, why do keep bringing up "ontological properties" and "accidental properties"? We’re talking about intelligence and its relation to manipulation, not metaphysics, retard.

 

[Pikacel]

not an non-sequiter completely easy to understand.
my formal argument: One does not need the essence of high intelligence to manipulate or lure others. Intelligence can be simulated via strategic projection, just as an animal feigns understanding to capture prey. What matters is the effect of the projection in the relational network, not the intrinsic depth of cognition. Essence is different from an being's accidental properties. The entity exists in an relational space with others, by producing what others deem as inteligent, the entity alters relational dynamics in its own favor. Manipulation or luring does not require full rational inteligence, it only requires behavioral sufficency. Ontologically, the ability to achieve goals via observable cues is sufficient to accomplish effect, regardless of internal cognitive depth. Thus, the essence of manipulation is functional, not intellectual. High intelligence is not necessary only the ability to project the appearance of understanding.
my informal argument: you don't need high inteligence to manipulate or deceive, it only requires behavioral sufficency + observation, and is not linked to one's cognitive depth. animals feigning inteligence don't make them inteligent. what matters is other's perception of you, and by outputing skills and signals which others deem sufficient you change them in your behavior. or towards you. the ablity to achieve goals via cues is enough and does not require inteligence, you just need to project the apperance of understanding.
Example: The Turing Test.
do you need that with crayons or are you good now?
plus. the irish are an bad example, since like they almost beat the kikes in how much governments and companies they control. plus they are incredibly wealthy for an ethnic group.
and the roma and gypises faced far more hardships than the kikes ever did.
and here is the nice part:
High rational intelligence might hinder the ability to project these cues and might cost more in the long term than functional behaviors could. As one's application of rational inteligence might be faulty, and lead them to overoptimize and overanalyze everything leading them to output negative perceptions of one self, and negative social cues.
QED.
im not replying anymore to this thread

Irish TRAVELLERS ie pikeys dude not the Irish

And nah, Jews synthesise strategies and systems to make money and establish influence. They aren’t just imitating tried and true methods

You could dump a Jew in any random country with nothing to his name and 10 years later he’ll come back a millionaire. This is simply not normal. No other ethnicity is capable of generating money out their ass like the Jew does.

 

[endoftheskies]

I can. You are obfuscating your point by using philosophical words that are not necessary and have little to do with the topic. For example, intelligence isn’t an "essence", it’s simply a behavioral trait.

Also, you keep using human-like language to describe animalistic processes in nature. That makes no sense. Animals do NOT pretend to understand as they cannot understand at all.

What’s being argued is over whether or not manipulation requires intelligence, not whether it requires exceptionally high intelligence. Stop trying to change the subject. Imitation isn’t the same thing as manipulation. Mimicry might fool someone once, but not always. Manipulation requires adaptive intelligence which recognizes when to change tactics and plan for it accordingly. That’s more than just mindless instinct. And Turing Test doesn’t mean intelligence can be faked. it measures whether a computer can show intelligent behavior consistently, which implies intelligence. Also, why do keep bringing up "ontological properties" and "accidental properties"? We’re talking about intelligence and its relation to manipulation, not metaphysics, retard.

im not going to reply to this thread anymore. if you thats what you want to believe. then so be it.
firstly, im not obsfucating my point by using confusing to understand language. its pretty clear. to understand. inteligence is an 'essence' of one's being as it governs how one thinks or understands. you are applying an wrong system and wrong definitions for this argument. inteligence is essential for an being retard.
secondly, ??? the fuck is this? you are using an human-like language to communicate/understand. its an idiotic argument, that does make sense, because we are trying to find an rationale/reason why things do or behave, its an idiotic argument. i am describing an process and system and applying rationale to it. what is even this argument?
thirdly, you just proved my point. your point being is that muh kikes have high inteligence because of prey maxxing, when i have shown you it is not the case, and that it is an matter of simple of heuristic. you conceded that preymaxxing has inteligence, but it doesn't have high rational inteligence, which was your point. your point being that because they were preymaxxing/predatormaxxing that means it has high inteligence.

 

[ZX888]

Interesting

 

[MacheteRape]

I have highlighted important words and sentences.

The Jew offers the most striking contrast to the Aryan. There is
probably no other people in the world who have so developed the instinct
of self-preservation as the so-called 'chosen' people. The best proof of
this statement is found in the simple fact that this race still exists.
Where can another people be found that in the course of the last two
thousand years has undergone so few changes in mental outlook and
character as the Jewish people? And yet what other people has taken such
a constant part in the great revolutions? But even after having passed
through the most gigantic catastrophes that have overwhelmed mankind,
the Jews remain the same as ever. What an infinitely tenacious
will-to-live, to preserve one's kind, is demonstrated by that fact!

The intellectual faculties of the Jew have been trained through
thousands of years. To-day the Jew is looked upon as specially
'cunning'; and in a certain sense he has been so throughout the ages.
His intellectual powers, however, are not the result of an inner
evolution but rather have been shaped by the object-lessons which the
Jew has received from others. The human spirit cannot climb upwards
without taking successive steps. For every step upwards it needs the
foundation of what has been constructed before--the past--which in, the
comprehensive sense here employed, can have been laid only in a general
civilization. All thinking originates only to a very small degree in
personal experience. The largest part is based on the accumulated
experiences of the past. The general level of civilization provides the
individual, who in most cases is not consciously aware of the fact, with
such an abundance of preliminary knowledge that with this equipment he
can more easily take further steps on the road of progress. The boy of
to-day, for example, grows up among such an overwhelming mass of
technical achievement which has accumulated during the last century that
he takes as granted many things which a hundred years ago were still
mysteries even to the greatest minds of those times. Yet these things
that are not so much a matter of course are of enormous importance to
those who would understand the progress we have made in these matters
and would carry on that progress a step farther. If a man of genius
belonging to the 'twenties of the last century were to arise from his
grave to-day he would find it more difficult to understand our present
age than the contemporary boy of fifteen years of age who may even have
only an average intelligence. The man of genius, thus come back from the
past, would need to provide himself with an extraordinary amount of
preliminary information which our contemporary youth receive
automatically, so to speak, during the time they are growing up among
the products of our modern civilization.

Since the Jew--for reasons that I shall deal with immediately--never had
a civilization of his own, he has always been furnished by others with a
basis for his: intellectual work. His intellect has always developed by
the use of those cultural achievements which he has found ready-to-hand
around him.

The process has never been the reverse.

For, though among the Jews the instinct of self-preservation has not
been weaker but has been much stronger than among other peoples, and
though the impression may easily be created that the intellectual powers
of the Jew are at least equal to those of other races, the Jews
completely lack the most essential pre-requisite of a cultural people,
namely the idealistic spirit. With the Jewish people the readiness for
sacrifice does not extend beyond the simple instinct of individual
preservation. In their case the feeling of racial solidarity which they
apparently manifest is nothing but a very primitive gregarious instinct,
similar to that which may be found among other organisms in this world.
It is a remarkable fact that this herd instinct brings individuals
together for mutual protection only as long as there is a common danger
which makes mutual assistance expedient or inevitable. The same pack of
wolves which a moment ago joined together in a common attack on their
victim will dissolve into individual wolves as soon as their hunger has
been satisfied. This is also sure of horses, which unite to defend
themselves against any aggressor but separate the moment the danger is
over.

It is much the same with the Jew. His spirit of sacrifice is only
apparent. It manifests itself only so long as the existence of the
individual makes this a matter of absolute necessity. But as soon as the
common foe is conquered and the danger which threatened the individual
Jews is overcome and the prey secured, then the apparent harmony
disappears and the original conditions set in again. Jews act in concord
only when a common danger threatens them or a common prey attracts them.
Where these two motives no longer exist then the most brutal egotism
appears and these people who before had lived together in unity will
turn into a swarm of rats that bitterly fight against each other.

If the Jews were the only people in the world they would be wallowing in
filth and mire and would exploit one another and try to exterminate one
another in a bitter struggle, except in so far as their utter lack of
the ideal of sacrifice, which shows itself in their cowardly spirit,
would prevent this struggle from developing.

Therefore it would be a complete mistake to interpret the mutual help
which the Jews render one another when they have to fight--or, to put it
more accurately, to exploit--their fellow being, as the expression of a
certain idealistic spirit of sacrifice.

Here again the Jew merely follows the call of his individual egotism.
That is why the Jewish State, which ought to be a vital organization to
serve the purpose of preserving or increasing the race, has absolutely
no territorial boundaries. For the territorial delimitation of a State
always demands a certain idealism of spirit on the part of the race
which forms that State and especially a proper acceptance of the idea of
work. A State which is territorially delimited cannot be established or
maintained unless the general attitude towards work be a positive one.
If this attitude be lacking, then the necessary basis of a civilization
is also lacking.

That is why the Jewish people, despite the intellectual powers with
which they are apparently endowed, have not a culture--certainly not a
culture of their own. The culture which the Jew enjoys to-day is the
product of the work of others and this product is debased in the hands
of the Jew.

In order to form a correct judgment of the place which the Jew holds in
relation to the whole problem of human civilization, we must bear in
mind the essential fact that there never has been any Jewish art and
consequently that nothing of this kind exists to-day. We must realize
that especially in those two royal domains of art, namely architecture
and music, the Jew has done no original creative work. When the Jew
comes to producing something in the field of art he merely bowdler-izes
something already in existence or simply steals the intellectual word,
of others. The Jew essentially lacks those qualities which are
characteristic of those creative races that are the founders of
civilization.

To what extent the Jew appropriates the civilization built up by
others--or rather corrupts it, to speak more accurately--is indicated by
the fact that he cultivates chiefly the art which calls for the smallest
amount of original invention, namely the dramatic art. And even here he
is nothing better than a kind of juggler or, perhaps more correctly
speaking, a kind of monkey imitator; for in this domain also he lacks
the creative elan which is necessary for the production of all really
great work. Even here, therefore, he is not a creative genius but rather
a superficial imitator who, in spite of all his retouching and tricks,
cannot disguise the fact that there is no inner vitality in the shape he
gives his products. At this juncture the Jewish Press comes in and
renders friendly assistance by shouting hosannas over the head of even
the most ordinary bungler of a Jew, until the rest of the world is
stampeded into thinking that the object of so much praise must really be
an artist, whereas in reality he may be nothing more than a low-class
mimic.

No; the Jews have not the creative abilities which are necessary to the
founding of a civilization; for in them there is not, and never has
been, that spirit of idealism which is an absolutely necessary element
in the higher development of mankind. Therefore the Jewish intellect
will never be constructive but always destructive. At best it may serve
as a stimulus in rare cases but only within the meaning of the poet's
lines: 'THE POWER WHICH ALWAYS WILLS THE BAD, AND ALWAYS WORKS THE GOOD'
(KRAFT, DIE STETS DAS BÖSE WILL UND STETS DAS GUTE SCHAFFT). (Note 15) It
is not through his help but in spite of his help that mankind makes any
progress.

I really do think nobody before or since Herr Hitler has had such a deep understanding of the nature of the jewish people as he did. Nobody. The only one who comes close imo is Ben Klassen.

 

[AsiaCel]

I really do think nobody before or since Herr Hitler has had such a deep understanding of the nature of the jewish people as he did. Nobody. The only one who comes close imo is Ben Klassen.

I think Chinese does. Lots of interactions with them through Judeo-Bolshevik Mao. The direct cultural influence was reduced after Mao died. Jews were also here but they forgot who they were because no rabbis were allowed in.

 

[endoftheskies]

I think Chinese does. Lots of interactions with them through Judeo-Bolshevik Mao. The direct cultural influence was reduced after Mao died. Jews were also here but they forgot who they were because no rabbis were allowed in.

they take their rabbis as their gods lmao.

 

[MacheteRape]

I think Chinese does. Lots of interactions with them through Judeo-Bolshevik Mao. The direct cultural influence was reduced after Mao died. Jews were also here but they forgot who they were because no rabbis were allowed in.

Oh, that's a given since they fucking celebrate Christmas together, but I think this understanding of jews is similar to how rich anglo types see no issue with selling out their own people for money and clout. Is that not what almost all communist leaders have done?

 

[AsiaCel]

they take their rabbis as their gods lmao.

The kaifeng Jews got so desperate they asked a Christian priest to become their rabbi.