Serious High serotonin completely changes your outlook on life

[Fontaine]

I'm becoming ever more convinced that the reason most normies hate / misunderstand incels is because of a fundamental neurobiological difference in neurotransmitter makeup.

In my life I have gone very often from euphoria to depression and back, either due to life events or psychiatric interventions. Neurotransmitters affect the very formation of your thoughts from the ground up, automatically and without you having a say in it, despite an illusion of control over your mental flow. Bad mood causes negative ideas and not the reverse. If you doubt the biopsychiatry hypothesis, you haven't experienced how much mood-altering chemicals / procedures, or mood disorders, can change you from the bottom up.

High serotonin = high trust, high empathy, high optimism

Low serotonin = low trust, low empathy, high pessimism

Someone with high serotonin will often be unable to understand someone with low serotonin and vice versa... Incel ideas are mostly low serotonin and therefore sound weird to high serotonin individuals. The same goes for alt-right ideas (the distrust of foreigners sounds very weird to someone with high S).

As to the ideal brain makeup, it's honestly high serotonin, because society is designed for high serotonin.

 

[CompleteFuckingLoser]

Medium IQ.

You're on the right track, but Serotonin syndrome is a real thing. Higher isn't always better, it's about striking and keeping a balance.

 

[Moustachcel]

high iq. I also informed myself about neurotransmitters and about its effects on our mood. I can tell you that my body has very low serotonin tbh.

 

[cow]

High IQ post. Do mdma or any other serotonogenic substance and you'll see for yourself how much can change in mere minutes.

 

[Moustachcel]

Higher isn't always better, it's about striking and keeping a balance.

COPE. The more the better

 

[GetFucked]

High IQ post. Do mdma or any other serotonogenic substance and you'll see for yourself how much can change in mere minutes.

But how can we permanently boost our serotonin levels? The comedown from MDMA is brutal

 

[Fontaine]

high iq. I also informed myself about neurotransmitters and about its effects on our mood. I can tell you that my body has very low serotonin tbh.

It's eerie. Free will is mostly an illusion, we are machines.

But how can we permanently boost our serotonin levels? The comedown from MDMA is brutal

Try transcranial magnetic stimulation on frontal lobe. Some clinics do it. I went from gloomy depressed guy to hyper joyous and energetic after this. Effects are very long-lasting.

 

[serotonincel]

Agreed

 

[CompleteFuckingLoser]

COPE. The more the better

I meant in Serotonin levels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin_syndrome

Naturally, Serotoninmaxxing may not be bad though.

When I take certain vitamins (St. Johns Wort, 5HTP) I feel even worse than I normally do.

 

[cow]

But how can we permanently boost our serotonin levels? The comedown from MDMA is brutal

Meditation has given me great results when it comes to fighting depression - there is still not enough research made about it but I believe it might affect neurotransmitter levels.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

if anything we all need a wake up call
the simple fact that more and more people need medication to maintain high serotonin is an indicator that this "happy happy joy joy" bullshit isn't cutting it, and we might need low serotonin rumination, despair and eventually acceptance to get out of this rut.
sure you can argue that the 'little people' shouldn't concern themselves with any of this and just maintain high serotonin, but obviously they are having a little bit of trouble putting on the horse blinders if they need medication and therapy

 

[feelsbadman32]

I heard ecstasy increases serotonin levels by a lot, but it's not something you can use all the time

 

[Fontaine]

if anything we all need a wake up call
the simple fact that more and more people need medication to maintain high serotonin is an indicator that this "happy happy joy joy" bullshit isn't cutting it, and we might need low serotonin rumination, despair and eventually acceptance to get out of this rut.
sure you can argue that the 'little people' shouldn't concern themselves with any of this and just maintain high serotonin, but obviously they are having a little bit of trouble putting on the horse blinders if they need medication and therapy

I mostly agree, however mood disorders like dysthymia (persistent low mood) often have a genetic component. And while low mood can help you see a problem, it doesn't help you solve it- depressed people have trouble making themselves a sandwich.

 

[Deleted member 126]

This good to know. Serotonin is clearly a bad thing. How can I lower my levels further?

 

[cow]

I heard ecstasy increases serotonin levels by a lot, but it's not something you can use all the time

It doesa, but it also desentises your serotonin receptors, heavy ecstasy users often end up chronically depressed

 

[SoCalSuifuel]

No shit level IQ, of course having different chemicals will lead to people thinking differently. Doesn't change the fact that incels and pessimists are correct from an objective point of view.

 

[Fontaine]

This good to know. Serotonin is clearly a bad thing. How can I lower my levels further?

I am high serotonin and still blackpill. The two are perfectly compatible because the blackpill is backed by evolutionary science and dating app experiments. If anything, high serotonin makes me a better soldier for the blackpill cause.

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

Just inject some serotonin, brah.

 

[GetFucked]

It's eerie. Free will is mostly an illusion, we are machines.

Try transcranial magnetic stimulation on frontal lobe. Some clinics do it. I went from gloomy depressed guy to hyper joyous and energetic after this. Effects are very long-lasting.

Looks like you need succesdive treatment to avoid a relapse, but if i had 15k just laying around I'd give it a try.

Meditation has given me great results when it comes to fighting depression - there is still not enough research made about it but I believe it might affect neurotransmitter levels.

I can never consistently meditate but might as well look into it

 

[Fontaine]

Just inject some serotonin, brah.

While you can't directly "inject" serotonin, certain drugs, some of them safe and legal, can augment the concentration of serotonin. Electricity-based therapies also work--both magnetic stimulation and electroshocks are known to cure depression.

Looks like you need succesdive treatment to avoid a relapse, but if i had 15k just laying around I'd give it a try.

Nah bro, that's bullshit. You do 20 close sessions, that sets you up at $1500 max and then it's normally over.

 

[PheneZ]

It's eerie. Free will is mostly an illusion, we are machines.

Try transcranial magnetic stimulation on frontal lobe. Some clinics do it. I went from gloomy depressed guy to hyper joyous and energetic after this. Effects are very long-lasting.

I'm in the US and it says that they cost 400-500 per session for a total of 15,000. Not a richcel so how fucked am i and how cheap are they in Europe?

 

[rabitter]

Half-baked theory.

You know who else is clinically proven to have low-serotonin? Sociopaths. And yet their lives are 24x7 orgies.

Neurotransmitter levels don't matter. What matters is your testosterone and HGH levels in puberty... In other words, it's all about the face.

 

[Jockcel]

H I G H I Q
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[Weed]

I agree tbhtbh https://incels.is/threads/bullies-t...are-the-reason-our-lifespan-is-shorter.65437/
Serotonin, btw I guess you've got that from 12 rules of life?

But how can we permanently boost our serotonin levels? The comedown from MDMA is brutal

Become better looking, that is the only way.

 

[Fontaine]

I'm in the US and it says that they cost 400-500 per session for a total of 15,000. Not a richcel so how fucked am i and how cheap are they in Europe?

Fuck... The US health system is a nightmare lol. Hopefully you can get insurance to cover it?

 

[Robtical]

For some reason I've always been optimistic no matter how bad things get.

 

[Fontaine]

Become better looking, that is the only way.

That's the only safe, everlasting way I agree.

However, TMS can give you a temporary, long-lasting "fix".

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

I'm in the US and it says that they cost 400-500 per session for a total of 15,000. Not a richcel so how fucked am i and how cheap are they in Europe?

15 THOUSAND? You could reshape your entire face with that money and actually improve your life.

 

[jet112]

that's a nice theory, but like the guy said above me - its half baked.

most people are programmed to believe certain things. and we have been programmed our whole lives to believe that underdogs can win the game of life.
most people, in general. reject new ideas. this is a fact. and its because we are so programmed to believe certain things, its outrageous to think that our parents/teachers did a shitty job in raising us. if you ask most people about their parents or teachers you would mostly likely to get a positive response (because of bias, and programming)

 

[starystulejarz]

GIGACOPE, anxious people with social phobia like me have super high serotonin levels in certain regions of their brain

https://www.medicaldaily.com/social...-rethink-ssris-and-other-anxiety-drugs-338608

Also people who attempted suicide also have super high serotonin levels in their brains.

Actually serotonin makes me even more anxious, but less depressed for some reason, for example if i sometimes take Saint's John Wort or Rhidola Rosea or Ashawagandha, my suicidal thoughts disappear, and my mood improves but i shake like crazy and still feel like shit but at least not want to kill myself all the time.

 

[Fontaine]

GIGACOPE, anxious people with social phobia like me have super high serotonin levels in certain regions of their brain

The key here is "certain regions"... An hypothesis is that in depressed persons, serotonin is not in the right place.

Alternatively, another neurotransmitter is involved in mood, but that seems unlikely.

 

[starystulejarz]

This good to know. Serotonin is clearly a bad thing. How can I lower my levels further?

Psychodelic drugs like MDMA, LSD and especially Psilocybin. But reasearch doses don't take too much, low dose is good enough to lower serotonin levels for weeks sometimes for a months.

 

[tiredofthisshit]

gimme pepsi

 

[starystulejarz]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4820447/

Dysregulation of amygdala circuitry is thought to contribute to symptoms in many psychiatric disorders including depression (Sheline et al., 2001; Victor et al., 2010), post-traumatic stress disorder (Rauch et al., 2000; Protopopescu et al., 2005), social phobia (Tillfors et al., 2001; Furmark et al., 2002) and other phobias (Ahs et al., 2009). Therefore, understanding amygdala circuitry may ultimately lead to improved therapies for psychiatric disorders.

 

[Fontaine]

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4820447/

Dysregulation of amygdala circuitry is thought to contribute to symptoms in many psychiatric disorders including depression (Sheline et al., 2001; Victor et al., 2010), post-traumatic stress disorder (Rauch et al., 2000; Protopopescu et al., 2005), social phobia (Tillfors et al., 2001; Furmark et al., 2002) and other phobias (Ahs et al., 2009). Therefore, understanding amygdala circuitry may ultimately lead to improved therapies for psychiatric disorders.

Well I don't know if it's the serotonin... But I sure as hell know that my personality changed completely after my brain zapping. I am unrecognizable compared to six months ago.

 

[Johny.speiz]

Half-baked theory.

You know who else is clinically proven to have low-serotonin? Sociopaths. And yet their lives are 24x7 orgies.

Neurotransmitter levels don't matter. What matters is your testosterone and HGH levels in puberty... In other words, it's all about the face.

Wished I was a sociopath/psychopath sometimes, at least I won't be such sensitive to others, to what they say and act towards me, feel ashamed for everything, and profit plentifully from life, have more self-confidence, and deep in the ass whole humanity and others around me, like they have me in addition. I lack many of those positive traits, unfortunately.

Well I don't know if it's the serotonin... But I sure as hell know that my personality changed completely after my brain zapping. I am unrecognizable compared to six months ago.

They reprogrammed you .

One of the negative specifics of human race is that we lack a reset button on our brain, which would be very useful.

 

[FiveFourManlet]

agreed

 

[CompleteFuckingLoser]

@Fontaine
@Moustachcel

Okay, how do I Serotoninmaxx?
I'm willing to try anything at this point, tbh. Even harder drugs.

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

Quite true. I know exactly when I'm high serotonin. I get euphoric to the point where it's so overwhelming I wanna cry. It's technically pleasant but when it happens I kind of just want it to stop it's so intense, hard to explain. Usually happens when I stop smoking for a few days and my dopamine (a very overrated neurotransmitter or whatever, anxiety provoking as hell) levels get real low.

 

[The Abyss]

Try transcranial magnetic stimulation on frontal lobe. Some clinics do it. I went from gloomy depressed guy to hyper joyous and energetic after this. Effects are very long-lasting.

Damn that's expensive, £200-£250 a session with about 20 needed.

 

[Fontaine]

Damn that's expensive, £200-£250 a session with about 20 needed.

Damn, UK / US are a nightmare lol.

Go to Netherlands or France, it's only 80€

 

[Kent]

I mostly agree, however mood disorders like dysthymia (persistent low mood) often have a genetic component. And while low mood can help you see a problem, it doesn't help you solve it- depressed people have trouble making themselves a sandwich.

Hate to rain on this muh highIQ parade but you did touch on the real issue. It is problem recognition. Most people cannot see problems like the incel can. Could be due to a number or reasons. One is the ability to absorb data objectively, most people run COPE on basically anything they hear or read or see. I've never heard anyone say their feeeeamayle is average-looking (always cute, beautiful or whatever)....however how many people do you see who are even above average on any given day?

Another reason why bluepills say height doesn't mattter. They don't see the problem their simple minds revert to someone they know who is short with a feeemayle (not addressing that the woman is an uggo) or even the 80/20 rule although this has been proven with reams of newfound social-media data.

So its not necessarily the serotonin that may cause a numbness to negativity (thats how it works it doesn't make you happy...think a freezer ...removes heat doesn't make cold)...anyway whatever if it works for you then so be it. But once you get blackpilled there really is no going back in an absolute sense.

see? just seeing problems is a huge burden and becomes your own problem.

Suicide Is Much Too Common among U.S. Physicians
It’s the second-leading cause of death for residents—and the leading cause for male residents

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/suicide-is-much-too-common-among-u-s-physicians/

Aside from STEMs....I should add....incels also are aware of problems esp. autists to a very high degree....that are simply unobservable to the bluepilled mind.

 

[Frottbott]

I couldn't disagree more. I am the peaceful, loving and kind one (I just believe niggers are NPCs is all. I'm not mean to want violent, non-conscious beings to disappear). I'm just venting here. And when I was a kid I had no desires of spending my days on this forum trying to fix the problems of the world.

But when I was that same fresh-faced kid, the other kids were in constant attack mode and hated on me (way worse than anything I ever did on here). People on ecstacy become much more peaceful and kind, yet normies are savage monsters compared to me. Another thing to consider is that we are more truthful. Normies are violent monsters and they are good at hiding it. All it takes is one incident and they're lopping heads off. They are the ones, if anything, who display fucked up anti-NT behaviour.

 

[The Abyss]

I couldn't disagree more. I am the peaceful, loving and kind one (I just believe niggers are NPCs is all. I'm not mean to want violent, non-conscious beings to disappear). I'm just venting here. And when I was a kid I had no desires of spending my days on this forum trying to fix the problems of the world.

But when I was that same fresh-faced kid, the other kids were in constant attack mode and hated on me (way worse than anything I ever did on here). People on ecstacy become much more peaceful and kind, yet normies are savage monsters compared to me. Another thing to consider is that we are more truthful. Normies are violent monsters and they are good at hiding it. All it takes is one incident and they're lopping heads off. They are the ones, if anything, who display fucked up anti-NT behaviour.

Autists are too truthful or lack the cunning of deceit and manipulation. This is against the normie way.

Damn, UK / US are a nightmare lol.

Go to Netherlands or France, it's only 80€

Classist cultures so everything useful is overpriced to fuck. I hate rich ppl, not because they are wealthy but because they are so predisposed to overpay on stuff they see as necessary or important. They'll scrooge mcfuck to save pennies on stuff that is not even that dear then blow a load of cash unnecessarily on stuff because they bought the sales pitch or think it reflects well on their social standing so of course the ppl pushing a service or commodity then think well if they're willing to pay 3x it's actual worth then let's charge 4x. Of course this then prices the average Joe out of such a thing when technically he may be more in need of said thing than those that can afford it.

 

[Limerencel]

High IQ tbh ngl.

 

[ThereIsYourGod]

because society is designed for high serotonin

yeah, cuz trust everyone in the world of zero moral standarts and cult of individualism is just a perfect idea.

 

[Incellectual]

EINSTEIN IQ.

 

[Fontaine]

yeah, cuz trust everyone in the world of zero moral standarts and cult of individualism is just a perfect idea.

That's the low S speaking and warping your perspective. In reality most normies are "moralfags" as a result of high S.

 

[Miro Chad]

Damn, UK / US are a nightmare lol.

Go to Netherlands or France, it's only 80€

So 1600€ in total? I think it is just a placebo.

 

[Deleted member 1252]

Yes, but brain chemicals are mostly influenced by life events. Life events are mostly influenced by your appearance.