Serious High School “cels” should not be encouraged.

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Noticing a disturbing trend of high schoolers giving up way earlier than they should.

Reasons why - bar severe physical deformity - a highschooler legitimately cannot be a trucel:

- incomplete puberty: male puberty does not complete until around 21, with muscle and bone thickness not maximized until around age 25. Worse, giving up this early fucks over your looksmax ceiling by raising cortisol during puberty, lowering appetite, etc. Thus, your bone structure, height, muscle mass, and adult baseline T are stunted if you give in before 18.

mental probs / environment- you cannot truly give up until uni for this reason. Too many normie tier guys fit for mgtow (non-monk) give in too early and deny themselves ONS opportunities in college. Sometimes all it takes is one rejection, and even HS chadlites come running to this forum. Fuck off.

3- insufficient time to even gymcel/ statusmaxx: great copes even if you do become a trucel. That said, HS dudes have not put in the sufficient time to LDAR 100%. There is so much to do outside of pursuing foids. Learn to work on something else as you come to conclusions, reassess your situation yearly. Do not consider calling yourself a trucel unless you (1) have a severe physical deformity, (2) you’re under 5’6”, or (3) have already graduated uni with 0 IOIs + you aren’t autistic (some of you miss IOIs from landwhales and uggofoids cause oneitis. Volcel if you don’t capitalize).

 

[Zesto]

0 IOIs + you aren’t autistic (some of you miss IOIs from landwhales

 

[Incelazo]

True.
Puberty did wonders to me, and even though i didnt get close to the needed minimum to get voids, many of you youngcels could. Maybe.

 

[Deleted member 250]

I think most males stop growing taller at 16 due to low T

 

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Volcel if you don’t

 

[Zesto]

Volcel if you don’t

 

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I think most males stop growing taller at 16 due to low T

I come from a medical background, and can assure you that is false for most. Stunted growth at that age generally comes from severe mental stress (cortisol> lower T and Hgh) and low-fat diets (lowers T).

Hence why I am adamant about trying to help youngcels minimize permanent damage.

 

[Insalsa]

I come from a medical background

 

[feelsbadman32]

high school is when you're hornyness levels are off the charts though

 

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Sure. Disprove my argument, then. Otherwise it stands unrefuted.

high school is when you're hornyness levels are off the charts though

Agreed. All the more reason why HS boys should avoid sites like these.

 

[UBERCEL]

I assure you that is false for most. Stunted growth at that age generally comes from severe mental stress (cortisol> lower T and Hgh) and low-fat diets (lowers T).

Hence why I am adamant about trying to help youngcels minimize permanent damage.

Cortisol affects, but not as much as androgens and estrogens and its impact on HGH is minimal, most people are bluepilled, stress-free and they still can be stunted during young years.

It's about plate fusion, which is caused by estrogen.
http://www.pnas.org/content/98/12/6871

I come from a medical background

I think most males stop growing taller at 16 due to low T

Not particulary(see above). Excess or low affects growth negatively. You want a sweet spot.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16508127

 

[Frottbott]

I stopped growing at 13 and started balding at 16 tbh, but it wasn't noticeable until 17/18 and even then it was still there. By 19 it was significant. I would vomit in the mornings from stress as a teenager, and couldn't eat breakfast often. I had acid reflux at 12 and was crapping blood in my late teens.

It was so over for me though, even though I was rated well on looks online, that I think high school cels should be able to be on here. Many will ascend, but some won't. They need a place to vent their frustrations and many youngcels who haven't tried very hard are entertaining.

THAT SAID, THEY SHOULD KNOW THEY FUCKING PLACE! I think that's what irks most people. Nobody is going to take you seriously. You may be our little buddy, but you haven't seen the fucking horrors yet.

 

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Cortisol affects, but not as much as androgens and estrogens and its impact on HGH is minimal, most people are bluepilled, stress-free and they still can be stunted during young years.

It's about plate fusion, which is caused by estrogen.
http://www.pnas.org/content/98/12/6871

Not particulary(see above). Excess or low affects growth negatively. You want a sweet spot.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16508127

Thanks for such a detailed response and corrections. I have a couple disagreements/caveats to which I will discuss when I have the proper time.

I stopped growing at 13 and started balding at 16 tbh, but it wasn't noticeable until 17/18 and even then it was still there. By 19 it was significant. I would vomit in the mornings from stress as a teenager, and couldn't eat breakfast often. I had acid reflux at 12 and was crapping blood in my late teens.

It was so over for me though, even though I was rated well on looks online, that I think high school cels should be able to be on here. Many will ascend, but some won't. They need a place to vent their frustrations and many youngcels who haven't tried very hard are entertaining.

THAT SAID, THEY SHOULD KNOW THEY FUCKING PLACE! I think that's what irks most people. Nobody is going to take you seriously. You may be our little buddy, but you haven't seen the fucking horrors yet.

Agreed. For their own good, too, they shouldn’t be giving up so young. Not giving up is often what leads to your best copes.

 

[ShadowMonk]

Hah. Inceldom is not chosen. If you desire sex, and have not had it in a significant amount of time you are incel. This is usually given as 6 months, but average amount of sex in adults is 86 times per year, so you can calculate that out.
The means of escaping teenage inceldom is the same as for oldcels: Look attractive, be of high social value, have money.

 

[A10n3]

People under 18 and maybe even 20+ have no business to deal here imo.

 

[Kirito3]

Noticing a disturbing trend of high schoolers giving up way earlier than they should.

Reasons why - bar severe physical deformity - a highschooler legitimately cannot be a trucel:

- incomplete puberty: male puberty does not complete until around 21, with muscle and bone thickness not maximized until around age 25. Worse, giving up this early fucks over your looksmax ceiling by raising cortisol during puberty, lowering appetite, etc. Thus, your bone structure, height, muscle mass, and adult baseline T are stunted if you give in before 18.

mental probs / environment- you cannot truly give up until uni for this reason. Too many normie tier guys fit for mgtow (non-monk) give in too early and deny themselves ONS opportunities in college. Sometimes all it takes is one rejection, and even HS chadlites come running to this forum. Fuck off.

3- insufficient time to even gymcel/ statusmaxx: great copes even if you do become a trucel. That said, HS dudes have not put in the sufficient time to LDAR 100%. There is so much to do outside of pursuing foids. Learn to work on something else as you come to conclusions, reassess your situation yearly. Do not consider calling yourself a trucel unless you (1) have a severe physical deformity, (2) you’re under 5’6”, or (3) have already graduated uni with 0 IOIs + you aren’t autistic (some of you miss IOIs from landwhales and uggofoids cause oneitis. Volcel if you don’t capitalize).

Part of me want to agree but whenever it does, I just remember just how bad high school was.

Feeling confused, alone, and unwelcome by society (without an explanation such as the blackpill) at such a crucial stage in development can be permanently damaging.

 

[TheOnlyWei]

High schoolers should not be here.
My friends and I were losers in high school. I was the only one who would talk to girls. The others were too shy, pale, nerdy, emo... You get the point. All of my friends are married and have kids now.

 

[Vodaccenu]

If you're an incel in uni, it's likely over for you. If don't ascend in your 20s, it's beyond over.

 

[Moustachcel]

True.
Puberty did wonders to me, and even though i didnt get close to the needed minimum to get voids, many of you youngcels could. Maybe.

wrong puberty made me ugly as a child I was a high tier normie

 

[RopeMaXXer]

High iq post.
I think underage should be banned not only are their posts low quality they're harming themselves. Some of them haven't even asked anyone out.
Under 20 incels shouldn't be taken seriously wither but at least those graduated highschool so they most likely will stay incel

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

People under 18 and maybe even 20+ have no business to deal here imo.

 

[UBERCEL]

Drink ashwagandha for your cortisol boyos.

 

[Deleted member 11159]

If you miss out on highschool pussy it's over anyway. Having a used goods 25 year old roastie later on in life won't make things any better.

 

[Unwanted]

with muscle and bone thickness not maximized until around age 25. Worse, giving up this early fucks over your looksmax ceiling by raising cortisol during puberty, lowering appetite, etc. Thus, your bone structure, height, muscle mass, and adult baseline T are stunted if you give in before 18.

All the important things you could gain from puberty happen around 14-15.

Everything you listed there is unimportant and quite frankly useless.

Low IQ thread.

 

[KilluminoidBR]

All the important things you could gain from puberty happen around 15-16.

Everything you listed there is unimportant and quite frankly useless.

Low IQ thread.

How old are you??

 

[Unwanted]

How old are you??

20, and I haven't noticed any changes since 14.

 

[Hunter]

HS is easy mode tbh. you'd have to be truecel to get out of there and not have gotten laid if you actually tried there. if you tried in HS and couldnt get laid then you'd fit right in here.

 

[Incellectual]

If you're an incel in uni, it's likely over for you. If don't ascend in your 20s, it's beyond over.

 

[Albero]

Agreed. Youngcels should GTFO because they will obviously turn from 2/10 to 8/10 chads in two years because that is exactly like puberty body maturation happens.

 

[Frottbott]

High schoolers should not be here.
My friends and I were losers in high school. I was the only one who would talk to girls. The others were too shy, pale, nerdy, emo... You get the point. All of my friends are married and have kids now.

God, this was so me. Even before I even knew what PUA was I had approached girls and asked many out. I knew guys who could not even say hi to me in the lunch line at school because they cared so much what everybody thought of them. I would be like, 'hey dude.' And they would FUCKING TURN TO THE WALL TO PRETEND THEY WERE ALONE IN A ROOM, lol. Not because they were afraid of me ruining their reputation, but from shyness.

And these dudes all have kids or vasectomies w/ wives. I am literally the only incel I know IRL, and literally the only guy I know decently well (or perhaps at all) who has EVER approached a girl.

'But y'all!'