
svgmn1
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I've ran a lot of searching and questioning, here's what I found:
-Contrary to the popular opinion, Linux security is absolute fucking garbage, to the point that even a big corpo os like mac osx can be less vulnerable after reviewing many cve databases, the only real advantage Linux have over big corpo is transparency and privacy, which is slowly being taken away by Linux'es own big corpos (deb/ubuntu, RH/Fedora, opensuse, all of them use your data)
even niche and security focuses distros (Void, Alpine and even qubes and whonix/tails bullshit) that don't use both systemd and gnu c, are still garbage because they're still affected by linux vulnerabilities (they still have to have to use linux kernel).
-Openbsd is a minor exception of "foss corpo" (linux and bsd) that is secure, and even still has a concerning considerable sized vulnerability record compared to more secure oses, however it's too mainstream and not so hidden and it's used in a fuckton of corpo servers, sure thing big bro has got it covered since openbsd still faced problems vulnerabilities much like any other os.
-plain installed oses without hypervisors and virtualization for hardware are useless approaches for hiding yourself.
-Monolithic kernel oses and hypervisors should not be considered if the glowies are really after you. monolithic structure of a kernel doesn't make much sense regarding system security even the modular ones, you should not have easy access to everything even if you are the administrator of your machine.
conclusion: closed source systems which these criterias before don't apply to are actually better than mainstream open source oses which already have lots of vulnerabilities and have their code wide open for everyone including governments and definitely should be your choice:
First of all no, I'm not talking about osx or apple bullshit, I'm talking about closed source microkernel operating systems and real time operating systems that are limited even more than openbsd (can only give you file, networking and basic web access with limited shit like netsurf at best)
things that are so fucking old and tiny like qnx family of oses, in which the total amount of people who know it's source code are counted on fingers, and even most of those devs themselves are dead or forgotten about the system code.
even if you go the open source route and go full "secure privacy craze" you shouldn't consider openbsd.
seL4 is a microkernel and running a genode os like sculpt encapsulated, both of them using microkernel,would be a choice but EVEN if you exclude both microkernel and closed sourcing, there are still more secure options that are niche and experimental like redox OS or haiku OS/beos and this way even though the code to your os is open source just like openbsd it would be magnitudes more secure and tight than openbsd, rendering openbsd as the "big corpo" option here, because the difference in security would be exactly like the difference between big corpo os and openbsd.
those kind of OSes recommended have a total count of vulnerabilities ~= 0, a net zero of vulnerabilities is your goal, and even os that is as small as openbsd, proven that it can be vulnerable time after time, at the end even with a very tight and limited function os, glowies will find a way to find you regardless of what os or HV you use, it's all in the hardware.
take my words with a pinch of salt, that was just my own and personal conclusion uninfluenced by any soytuber or techsavvy negroes to already existing methods of running a secure os, you are free to believe whatever context you want to believe.
if you ridicule or refuse to believe, just remember that big bros themselves use the things I mentioned like seL4 instead of running qubes or whonix or tor bullshit or even openbsd like big bro's leeches Edward Soyden and Ass-ange tell you. look that shit up if you don't believe me.
all that shit is useless anyway to discuss or sperge about, unless you really do some shady shit or is threatened by the DNC or big bro himself
I'm not so I'm not installing any of this shit, my point of view is as neutral on this topic as it can be because I never intend to be a slave for any of those solutions, I myself use jewgle and big corpo bullshit because I live in a shithole devoid of laws that I will never be able to get out from so I just don't care about adopting anything as much as discussing it
The point of this thread is that I've seen countless cuckdittors, goyslop jewtubers , extremely gullible and self-bias driven individuals everywhere, who think some os is safe and even immune to big brother© just because they use it or like it, recommend it for others who really need security and shit happens.
"just use openbsd bro! I daily drive that shit, infinitely more secure than linux! never looked back after using it"
"just use qubes!"
"just use linux it's infinitely more secure than windows!"
....
yeeeeeah...sure
-Contrary to the popular opinion, Linux security is absolute fucking garbage, to the point that even a big corpo os like mac osx can be less vulnerable after reviewing many cve databases, the only real advantage Linux have over big corpo is transparency and privacy, which is slowly being taken away by Linux'es own big corpos (deb/ubuntu, RH/Fedora, opensuse, all of them use your data)
even niche and security focuses distros (Void, Alpine and even qubes and whonix/tails bullshit) that don't use both systemd and gnu c, are still garbage because they're still affected by linux vulnerabilities (they still have to have to use linux kernel).
-Openbsd is a minor exception of "foss corpo" (linux and bsd) that is secure, and even still has a concerning considerable sized vulnerability record compared to more secure oses, however it's too mainstream and not so hidden and it's used in a fuckton of corpo servers, sure thing big bro has got it covered since openbsd still faced problems vulnerabilities much like any other os.
-plain installed oses without hypervisors and virtualization for hardware are useless approaches for hiding yourself.
-Monolithic kernel oses and hypervisors should not be considered if the glowies are really after you. monolithic structure of a kernel doesn't make much sense regarding system security even the modular ones, you should not have easy access to everything even if you are the administrator of your machine.
conclusion: closed source systems which these criterias before don't apply to are actually better than mainstream open source oses which already have lots of vulnerabilities and have their code wide open for everyone including governments and definitely should be your choice:
First of all no, I'm not talking about osx or apple bullshit, I'm talking about closed source microkernel operating systems and real time operating systems that are limited even more than openbsd (can only give you file, networking and basic web access with limited shit like netsurf at best)
things that are so fucking old and tiny like qnx family of oses, in which the total amount of people who know it's source code are counted on fingers, and even most of those devs themselves are dead or forgotten about the system code.
even if you go the open source route and go full "secure privacy craze" you shouldn't consider openbsd.
seL4 is a microkernel and running a genode os like sculpt encapsulated, both of them using microkernel,would be a choice but EVEN if you exclude both microkernel and closed sourcing, there are still more secure options that are niche and experimental like redox OS or haiku OS/beos and this way even though the code to your os is open source just like openbsd it would be magnitudes more secure and tight than openbsd, rendering openbsd as the "big corpo" option here, because the difference in security would be exactly like the difference between big corpo os and openbsd.
those kind of OSes recommended have a total count of vulnerabilities ~= 0, a net zero of vulnerabilities is your goal, and even os that is as small as openbsd, proven that it can be vulnerable time after time, at the end even with a very tight and limited function os, glowies will find a way to find you regardless of what os or HV you use, it's all in the hardware.
take my words with a pinch of salt, that was just my own and personal conclusion uninfluenced by any soytuber or techsavvy negroes to already existing methods of running a secure os, you are free to believe whatever context you want to believe.
if you ridicule or refuse to believe, just remember that big bros themselves use the things I mentioned like seL4 instead of running qubes or whonix or tor bullshit or even openbsd like big bro's leeches Edward Soyden and Ass-ange tell you. look that shit up if you don't believe me.
all that shit is useless anyway to discuss or sperge about, unless you really do some shady shit or is threatened by the DNC or big bro himself
I'm not so I'm not installing any of this shit, my point of view is as neutral on this topic as it can be because I never intend to be a slave for any of those solutions, I myself use jewgle and big corpo bullshit because I live in a shithole devoid of laws that I will never be able to get out from so I just don't care about adopting anything as much as discussing it
The point of this thread is that I've seen countless cuckdittors, goyslop jewtubers , extremely gullible and self-bias driven individuals everywhere, who think some os is safe and even immune to big brother© just because they use it or like it, recommend it for others who really need security and shit happens.
"just use openbsd bro! I daily drive that shit, infinitely more secure than linux! never looked back after using it"
"just use qubes!"
"just use linux it's infinitely more secure than windows!"
....
yeeeeeah...sure
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