Asking for my friend what the difference is?
Ask me what the difference between Fascism & National Socialism is, I could explain that.
Troskiysm is Troskiysm and Stalinsm is Stalinsm
Facism isnt that like military aggression and national socialism simply what it sounds like i.e national "socialism"
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Trotsky argued for the exportation of communism into other countries via military force. Lenin also believed in this, and he tried invading Poland to reach Germany and influence its politics:
en.wikipedia.org
Fortunately, they were stopped by the emerging Polish republic.
Stalinism is essentially Stalin's personal politics. There isn't much to say about it besides authoritarianism and political retardation (though you could say it's inherent to all forms of communism)
In contrast to Trotsky, Stalin, and subsequently all other Soviet leaders, believed in building up socialism in the USSR before bothering to export it, if not outright coexisting with capitalism
Polish–Soviet War - Wikipedia
Stalinism is essentially Stalin's personal politics. There isn't much to say about it besides authoritarianism and political retardation (though you could say it's inherent to all forms of communism)
In contrast to Trotsky, Stalin, and subsequently all other Soviet leaders, believed in building up socialism in the USSR before bothering to export it, if not outright coexisting with capitalism
Fascism places more of an emphasis upon the State, whereas National Socialism actually seeks to indirectly reduce the power of the State, through bettering the populace via Socialism- but not the modern globohomo kind, but the more "traditional" kind of Socialism.
Also, Fascism is more national-driven whereas National Socialism is more race-driven.
@Corvus
world revolution vs socialism in 1 country
The whole "world revolution" is part of globohomo imo, borders & recognizing racial & national differences is important to maintaining a Socialist society.
what is traditional socialism? I mean isnt socialism just the distribution of resources? If so then the USA is perfectly socialist with its welfare and Obama care independant of the globo homo stuff maybe thats kinda leading towrds communism i.e you own nothing and be happy
So I guess Trosky wanted world revolution then why didnt it happen why did the soviets say "ok these Slavic countries are enough" why didnt they take more? Asking for a friend
Troskiy wanted a “world revolution” and wanted to spread communism to other nations to “liberate the workers.” Including actively invading countries to forcefully overthrow their government. Stalin wanted the USSR to focus on perfecting communism in one state and believed that once the communist utopia was realized in the USSR the rest of the world would follow suit. I’m sure there was major differences in their economic policies and most considered Trotsky to be far more leftist than Stalin but I really don’t know enough about their beliefs to tell you.
yeah thats why i am asking because what does "far more leftist " mean
Because Trosky was exiled and then assassinated by Stalin’s regime. I’m sure post WW2 USSR wanted to spread their influence and did so during the Cold War. However, they didn’t want to risk a war with the Allies\NATO
Im sorry boyo but you’d be better off asking someone who’s knows more about Soviet history and politics. Go find a far leftist sub Reddit and ask thereyeah thats why i am asking because what does "far more leftist " mean
nah here is okay, I just need to tag the slavic cels here. But thnaks for the info brocel
Troskiysm is Troskiysm and Stalinsm is Stalinsm
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@NorthernWind
Don't know for sure.
As the other posters said, Trotsky wanted to export revolution abroad while Stalin was more focused on building communism/socialism within Soviet borders.
As the other posters said, Trotsky wanted to export revolution abroad while Stalin was more focused on building communism/socialism within Soviet borders.
Stalinism is marxism lenninism molded around the charateristics of the person that was Stalin. Authoritarian, traditional, deceptive, cynical etc.
Whilst Trotskyism is the same thing but with Trotsky. Romantic, poetic, accelerationist, convention breaking etc.
A good example would be a polar opposite regarding their views how to spread socialism.
Stalin believed in socialism in one country whilst Trotsky in the constant revolution. Basically Trotsky wanted to continue the revolution and thought that the revolution was still on only "upgraded" into conventional politics like you have today with countries. Meaning that he wanted to fund and "export" the revolution, basically step by step take over more countries by installing a communist government there.
A revolution normally goes on in a country until one side loses, in that same perimeter he saw the revolution in Russia being a rebelion that simply was waging war with the rest of the world. In other worlds, Trotsky saw the whole of humanity being in a state of civil war since the russian revolution began, just like a whole country is during its internal struggle.
Trotsky also believed that in a communist society people would be like robots simply subservient to the objective process that was evolution towards socialism. Like many communists today, he saw the process marx described to be a natural thing, something that for humanity must happen and can't be stopped. Anything that happens and ultimetly will lead to the end which is socialism, must have happened, and that was an event that had to occur in the process. Regardless of the human casualties and opression the revolution would bring, the pain and suffering, it simply was a consequence of a chain of events determing that such actions were bound to happen and there is no worth in being sad about it, unless for the purpoe of propaganda virtue signalling would increase the popularity of the vanguard.
Stalin believed in socialism in one country, meaning that only one country can be the exporter of socialism, because the revolution happened there. Now, this OG country was a communist state, while the other countries were...themselves for a lack of better word, but with communists in power. The very nature of the OG state and the client states was different in his view. If a country got invaded and a communist government was installed, then the people of said country did't achieve socialism themselves, but rather with the help of the OG country, so, a puppet government at the order of the OG country would be responsible for keeping the state of socialism in that OG country until the puppet country would be essentially ready after years and years of rule to be incorporated into the OG country. Russification, killing religion, lying about history etc. to make the border more gray and less visible so tha ultimatly the nation when incorporated would be a not so distinctive "other" in the "federation" but rather a unique part of something greater.
This heavily went with his character because being the leader of the OG country in this concept gave Stalin the almost religious levels of authority on socialism, what it is, how it looks, how it works, what to do etc. securing his position on the pyramid of ideological hierarchy.
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