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Anyone here, can go and get an escort, not hard.
And go get laid.
Or dumpster dive and get a used up 55 year old single mother that is poor.

But to get actual attention from females and that attention to be genuine and reserved for you and you only is what we cannot get.
 
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I cant even dumpster dive
 
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dumpster diving isn't even possible ever since shit like tinder became popular
 
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If you need validation from anyone you do in fact have a problem with your self confidence... I have to agree with the normies on this one. No my problem is with getting laid.
 
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I have this urge to prove that I am worthy of love, even though I am clearly not.
 
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I'd say it is the validation + sex. The modern understanding of sex as this animalistic and mostly base act that is unrelated to other aspects such as romanticism, love etc is completely erroneous. Sexuality used to be considered a vehicle for spiritual experiences in many cultures. The act of sex is necessary because it represents the culmination of love. It is not just a kind of base physical gratification, nothing more than mutual masturbation essentially, with no higher aspect than that. A romantic entanglement that doesn't culminate in sex is an unfulfilled process. But with that said, the entire process is important, or else the act can in fact become this degraded thing a lot of people say it is.

When you know that a woman loves you, when you have build up this connection with her, sex than becomes this exalted and quasi-mystical experience. But when you have sex with a person whom you know reviles you, than the experience of sex is degraded and soiled. It may feel good physically but that special joy, that greater fulfillment is gone, which leaves one hollow in the end.
 
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virgin4life said:
If you need validation from anyone you do in fact have a problem with your self confidence... I have to agree with the normies on this one. No my problem is with getting laid.
Then pay an escort, retard. Sticking your dick in a whore isn't going to be anything like the experience of having a picnic on the beach with a girl that loves you and desires to fuck you. What we as actual incels want is to feel a connection to another human being, to feel at one with the universe by being desired by another sentient being that views us as something beautiful.
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I'd say it is the validation + sex. The modern understanding of sex as this animalistic and mostly base act that is unrelated to other aspects such as romanticism, love etc is completely erroneous. Sexuality used to be considered a vehicle for spiritual experiences in many cultures. The act of sex is necessary because it represents the culmination of love. It is not just a kind of base physical gratification, nothing more than mutual masturbation essentially, with no higher aspect than that. A romantic entanglement that doesn't culminate in sex is an unfulfilled process. But with that said, the entire process is important, or else the act can in fact become this degraded thing a lot of people say it is.

When you know that a woman loves you, when you have build up this connection with her, sex than becomes this exalted and quasi-mystical experience. But when you have sex with a person whom you know reviles you, than the experience of sex is degraded and soiled. It may feel good physically but that special joy, that greater fulfillment is gone, which leaves one hollow in the end.
This.
 
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I just want to fuck a prime blonde Stacy, is it too much to ask? I know that I shouldn't because I'm an incel and ugly, but I can't help it. I don't need any validation, I just need a prime teen blonde Stacy, I don't want to fuck a 40 years old prostitute.
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
Sticking your dick in a whore isn't going to be anything like the experience of having a picnic on the beach with a girl that loves you and desires to fuck you. What we as actual incels want is to feel a connection to another human being, to feel at one with the universe by being desired by another sentient being that views us as something beautiful.

This.
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
Then pay an escort, retard. Sticking your dick in a whore isn't going to be anything like the experience of having a picnic on the beach with a girl that loves you and desires to fuck you. What we as actual incels want is to feel a connection to another human being, to feel at one with the universe by being desired by another sentient being that views us as something beautiful.

This.

Oh my got you are so cute... CUCK!!!!
 
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virgin4life said:
Oh my got you are so cute... CUCK!!!!
JFL at thinking that wanting romance and intimacy is cuckoldry. If all you want is sex, go hire a prostitute. Your problems will be solved and you can stop posting here.
 
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I'm a dumpster diver. Despite dozens of various copes involving self improvement, cars, careers, fashion, fitness and grooming the best I can do is a single mother with two kids to two dads.

When my friends ask me why I complain (they all have solid, lengthy relationships and are in love) they are incapable of understanding the concept OP summed up so well in a single fucking sentence.

Thanks — at least you people understand.
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
JFL at thinking that wanting romance and intimacy is cuckoldry. If all you want is sex, go hire a prostitute. Your problems will be solved and you can stop posting here.

You are probably a youngcel. A real incel above the age of 30 knows the nature of femoids and understands their affection is worth SHIT and never real anyway.
 
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You can be refused by escorts if you're too ugly and by poor single mother too.
 
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You are probably a youngcel. A real incel above the age of 30 knows the nature of femoids and understands their affection is worth SHIT and never real anyway.
I'm 24, I've never had any affection from women so I can't argue with your assessment. I don't feel young at all, though, 24 is pretty old. I've been friendzoned countless times, been ghosted, rejected, etc, etc, but I have no idea what it's like to actually have a girl be attracted to you. I imagine it's the best feeling in the world. Paintings like this are how I envision it:
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If there was just one girl who thought the world of me, then I'd be happy. One girl that I could talk to for hours on end, that I could make delicious meals for and watch Tarkovsky films with.
 
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I don't care about female validation, they are lesser beings.

What I do care about is mogging other males.

It's a mog or be-mogged world out there boys.
 
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Unwanted said:
I don't need any validation, I just need a prime teen blonde Stacy, I don't want to fuck a 40 years old prostitute.
same, any Stacy will do.
 
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Opus132 said:
I'd say it is the validation + sex. The modern understanding of sex as this animalistic and mostly base act that is unrelated to other aspects such as romanticism, love etc is completely erroneous. Sexuality used to be considered a vehicle for spiritual experiences in many cultures. The act of sex is necessary because it represents the culmination of love. It is not just a kind of base physical gratification, nothing more than mutual masturbation essentially, with no higher aspect than that. A romantic entanglement that doesn't culminate in sex is an unfulfilled process. But with that said, the entire process is important, or else the act can in fact become this degraded thing a lot of people say it is.

When you know that a woman loves you, when you have build up this connection with her, sex than becomes this exalted and quasi-mystical experience. But when you have sex with a person whom you know reviles you, than the experience of sex is degraded and soiled. It may feel good physically but that special joy, that greater fulfillment is gone, which leaves one hollow in the end.
Only men care about romance/love beyond the aesthetic layer. Women just care about appearances and sensations.
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
I'm 24, I've never had any affection from women so I can't argue with your assessment. I don't feel young at all, though, 24 is pretty old. I've been friendzoned countless times, been ghosted, rejected, etc, etc, but I have no idea what it's like to actually have a girl be attracted to you. I imagine it's the best feeling in the world. Paintings like this are how I envision it:
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If there was just one girl who thought the world of me, then I'd be happy. One girl that I could talk to for hours on end, that I could make delicious meals for and watch Tarkovsky films with.

Ok dude... Dont even mean to offend you but you really ARE cucked! Today relationships dont work like that. They are always transactional. Thank feminism for it. The kind of relationship you are talking about does not exist anymore.
 
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virgin4life said:
Ok dude... Dont even mean to offend you but you really ARE cucked! Today relationships dont work like that. They are always transactional. Thank feminism for it. The kind of relationship you are talking about does not exist anymore.
agreed. It only exists for Chad.
 
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agreed. It only exists for Chad.

No it doesn't even exist for Chad man... Chad gets to fuck and live in a nice illusion for a while which is nice but later he too gets divorce raped and traded for another Chad. Women use Chads like a toilet. To get rid of some body fluids. Then when he has become boring they replace him too. Nobody these days can have a meaningful relationship thanks to the cancer that is called feminism.
 
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Ok dude... Dont even mean to offend you but you really ARE cucked! Today relationships dont work like that. They are always transactional. Thank feminism for it. The kind of relationship you are talking about does not exist anymore.
How am I cucked for having a fantasy of the sort of relationship I would like? It's literally the only type of relationship worth having. If it doesn't exist anymore then relationships themselves aren't worth having to begin with. I know that there's a lot of messed up stuff in modern relationships, including literal cuckoldry, but how is desiring a classic romantic relationship cucked?
 
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How am I cucked for having a fantasy of the sort of relationship I would like? It's literally the only type of relationship worth having. If it doesn't exist anymore than relationships themselves aren't worth having to begin with. I know that there's a lot of messed up stuff in modern relationships, including literal cuckoldry, but how is desiring a classic romantic relationship cucked?

Because your dreaming about a classic romantic relationship will make you fall for women and their games. What you need is a realistic viewpoint which is that women are egoistic robots and that for the rest of your lifetime you can forget about your dream.
 
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No it doesn't even exist for Chad man... Chad gets to fuck and live in a nice illusion for a while which is nice but later he too gets divorce raped and traded for another Chad. Women use Chads like a toilet. To get rid of some body fluids. Then when he has become boring they replace him too. Nobody these days can have a meaningful relationship thanks to the cancer that is called feminism.
it's all about the illusion tbh. JFL @ modern (((relationships)))
 
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fukmylyf said:
it's all about the illusion tbh. JFL @ modern (((relationships)))
Free yourself from the illusion!
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
How am I cucked for having a fantasy of the sort of relationship I would like? It's literally the only type of relationship worth having. If it doesn't exist anymore then relationships themselves aren't worth having to begin with. I know that there's a lot of messed up stuff in modern relationships, including literal cuckoldry, but how is desiring a classic romantic relationship cucked?

We were born and raised with the idea that we will settle down with a good job and a good wife and have kids. The good old white picket fence middle class dream.

There's nothing wrong with wanting the life you will never have, and there's nothing wrong with desiring romance. Even if it'll never come.
 
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Because your dreaming about a classic romantic relationship will make you fall for women and their games. What you need is a realistic viewpoint which is that women are egoistic robots and that for the rest of your lifetime you can forget about your dream.
If there isn't a single woman like that, though (perhaps that's true) then I would just become a volcel. I want to at least have the opportunity to learn that for myself, though. I must admit I do have suspicions that my fantasies are incompatible with reality, but I don't want to go the sour grapes route where I say something is bad just because I can't get it myself. In that case I'll just view it as coping. Do you have any evidence that even Chads don't experience real romance? I know most of them pump and dump, but surely there are a few that believe in true love?
 
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Only men care about romance/love beyond the aesthetic layer. Women just care about appearances and sensations.

Same reason only men can appreciate or produce great art. Masculinity is inherently spiritual, while the feminine is "magical", in the sense femininity is a manifestation of cosmic substance and thus it represents potentiality and energy (which is why men wither and rot without contact with females). And because the masculine is the spiritual and creative agent of the world, it also happens only men have individualities, while women are creatures of pure subjectivity.

Ultimately, what men love is the beauty of universal femininity as a whole, not any particular woman specifically and certainly not her personality. The beauty of a woman is like the beauty of a natural landscape. It is a purely abstract and impersonal thing that relates to a reality that transcends the individual woman altogether. The problem with the west is that men have grown into the unfortunate habit of projecting their perception of this cosmic element in female beauty onto individual women themselves. Women themselves have absolutely no idea why men love them so much, for they are incapable of perceiving anything of a transcendent kind. Likewise, what women "love" in a man are not his spiritual qualities, but his physical attributes, for women are creatures of the world. They are essentially nature personified, so they don't see any other value except what's in the world of nature, so what they love is physical beauty, health, youth, strength and so forth.
 
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Genuine female affection expressed through sex, you mean.
 
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SoCalSuifuel said:
If there isn't a single woman like that, though (perhaps that's true) then I would just become a volcel. I want to at least have the opportunity to learn that for myself, though. I must admit I do have suspicions that my fantasies are incompatible with reality, but I don't want to go the sour grapes route where I say something is bad just because I can't get it myself. In that case I'll just view it as coping. Do you have any evidence that even Chads don't experience real romance? I know most of them pump and dump, but surely there are a few that believe in true love?

There's a saying by the Sufi poet Rumi that goes something along the lines that the sage is easily conquered by a woman, because he loves what in her is divine, while the brute conquers her:

Rûmi considers, with finesse and profundity and not without humor, that the sage is conquered by woman whereas the fool conquers her: for the latter is brutalized by his passion and does not know the barakah [blessing] of love and delicate sentiments, whereas the sage sees in the lovable woman a ray from God, and in the feminine body an image of creative Power.
 
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Opus132 said:
Same reason only men can appreciate or produce great art. Masculinity is inherently spiritual, while the feminine is "magical", in the sense femininity is a manifestation of cosmic substance and thus it represents potentiality and energy (which is why men wither and rot without contact with females). And because the masculine is the spiritual and creative agent of the world, it also happens only men have individualities, while women are creatures of pure subjectivity.

Ultimately, what men love is the beauty of universal femininity as a whole, not any particular woman specifically and certainly not her personality. The beauty of a woman is like the beauty of a natural landscape. It is a purely abstract and impersonal thing that relates to a reality that transcends the individual woman altogether. The problem with the west is that men have grown into the unfortunate habit of projecting their perception of this cosmic element in female beauty onto individual women themselves. Women themselves have absolutely no idea why men love them so much, for they are incapable of perceiving anything of a transcendent kind. Likewise, what women "love" in a man are not his spiritual qualities, but his physical attributes, for women are creatures of the world. They are essentially nature personified, so they don't see any other value except what's in the world of nature, so what they love is physical beauty, health, youth, strength and so forth.
Female beauty is not abstract, it is a collection of secondary sexual characteristics. I have felt more emotion looking at a landscape than at a female because the beauty of the landscape is transcendental whereas the "beauty" of a female is rooted in my drive to reproduce.

I do not think that painting women as magical beings is productive or even healthy. They are animals.

Curious, are any of these ideas that your are putting forth based on Kierkegaard at all?
 
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No, my source is Perennial Philosophy and stuff like Evola's Metaphysics of Sex.
 
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The difference in male and female behaviour is pretty much caused by the differences in our inherent value.

Women have inherent value due to the ability to give birth which men lack. Therefore they can afford to be more picky and do not have to invest in themselves that much.

However for (non-Chad) men to have value we have to build ourselves up from nothing. Through this process of improvement we become greater more introspective people as a result. Only to still be worth far less than any woman.
 
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Sadness said:
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Low IQ post, if we can get sex easily by escorts, why would be sex be our problem?