Blackpill [Hard To Swallow Edition] Your Desire For "Genuine" "Love" & "Affection" Is Socialized NOT Biological

[BlkPillPres]

I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - "this is what a man wants" based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized on, which is a false standard to begin with

The men of the past weren't so obsessed with "love" as a concept, marrying for the sake of your family, for political reasons, or due to an arrangement seems foreign to men in our time, many would tell themselves - "I could not do it, I wouldn't feel loved", that's complete BS, that's them going off of their "programming", men of the past were able to do stuff like that just fine, because they adhered to a different standard of masculinity, and in that standard a man's ego is not staked in his ability to make a woman desire him, because what a woman thought of you did not matter, you had much bigger issues like wars, the social standing of your family, politics, etc than to worry about something as trivial as making a woman want you, what women wanted didn't matter, they were commodities being traded and passed around

Today women play the game on tutorial mode, in the past they weren't even players, they were just another item in the game

What men want is to adhere to the standard of masculinity of their era, it just so happens that in our era that is more determined by ones genetics than ones actions

Many of you don't seem to get that modern masculinity has been feminized, so the mindset that you have now and think is masculine, is a feminized version of masculinity, men of the past weren't really chasing after "love" and "female affection", fathers promised their daughters to men, because we understood that anyone can commit to virtually anyone, "love" doesn't mean anything, your wife will learn to "love" you, it doesn't matter who you marry, whether its for political reasons, business reasons, etc

A lot of men have a female mindset and they don't even realize it, do you think in the past when warring tribes wanting to find peace for the sake of survival, IT JUST SO HAPPENED that the chiefs daughter and the son of the other tribes chief "LOVED" each other

Do you guys believe in such fairy tale coincidences?

Shit like this was normal, and the men had no problem with it, because whether a woman loved you or had affection for you WAS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR THAT ERA (there was more urgent and important shit to focus on, and again a men weren't SOCIALIZED to stake their ego in their ability to invoke desire in the opposite sex)

ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PILL THIS, BLACK PILL THAT, IRONICALLY FLIP YOUR LOGIC SWITCH OFF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS, AND INSTANTLY FORGET THAT MODERN MALE NORMS ARE DIFFERENT TO THE PAST

Just to give yourself an excuse for your mindset - "I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT I WANT "LOVE" AND "AFFECTION", ITS BIOLOGY"

WRONG!


Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socialization

The urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGY
How one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATION

I find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindset

So whenever I hear guys on this site saying - "I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be loved"

I CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETC

THOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)

SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?

THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATION

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

ANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF "LOVE" IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)

 

[Handflappingcel]

JUST RAID A VILLAGE AND CAPTURE A WAR BRIDE BROOO

 

[Nothingness]

Absolutely wrong.
At least read Richard III by Shakespear to see that it was so in the past.

 

[TheReaper]

why are you so sure that they can control their will?
it could work in the other way:
maybe people are simply driven by their desires and it doesn't matter if they're biological or gained trough a social process.
and yes I know that this argument justify the fact that women want chad.

 

[Hail The Bloatlord]

Starlink IQ

In the 1950s in rural Italy marriages were often arranged by the parents and if you refused you'd have the whole community against (they'd throw stones at you, keep you awake at night etc), women just had to deal with it.
In the 1970s in my town's factory there were people who would arrange marriages, they had a photobook with pictures of women from the poorer south and willing to marry and move over to the north. That's how my grandfather met his second wife.
Same goes with the russian bride websites nowadays, those women are willing to marry a random westerner and start a family, I know people married that way and they are solid couples, they just learn to deal with each other over time for the sake of having a family and a comfortable lifestyle.

 

[NormieKiller]

I've never believed in this silly concept of love ever since I was a child. Had conviced myself that I felt it at the age of 17 but I knew from a subconscious level that it was fake.
Love is a concept from the cucked white man. Us ethnics just want bobs and vagene and nothing else.

 

[BlkPillPres]

they just learn to deal with each other over time for the sake of having a family and a comfortable lifestyle.

That's my point exactly, one can literally learn to love anyone, and it has nothing to do with desperation, it has to do with biology, men and women want to pair bond, the want to have sex and reproduce, if you leave a man and a woman together long enough without other interference, if they are both at least average or even if there is a slight difference in looks, both of them will end up pairing up together and "falling in love", love doesn't exist, "urges" and "drives" exist

The reason why marriages are failing today is due to this false peddled belief of "love", that if you are no longer feeling a "spark" its time to pack up and leave, older marriages lasted because marriage was seen as a "commitment" based on "rules", not some magical fantasy of "love" revolving around intense "desire"

Ironically men have also fallen for this BS, even more ironically men who consider themselves black pilled

 

[Deleted member 18912]

I seriously think this mindset I see so many men expressing is due to socializing, masculinity itself has been feminized, and that's the trick of it all, all men are going around telling themselves - "this is what a man wants" based on the standard of masculinity they were raised and socialized on, which is a false standard to begin with

The men of the past weren't so obsessed with "love" as a concept, marrying for the sake of your family, for political reasons, or due to an arrangement seems foreign to men in our time, many would tell themselves - "I could not do it, I wouldn't feel loved", that's complete BS, that's them going off of their "programming", men of the past were able to do stuff like that just fine, because they adhered to a different standard of masculinity, and in that standard a man's ego is not staked in his ability to make a woman desire him, because what a woman thought of you did not matter, you had much bigger issues like wars, the social standing of your family, politics, etc than to worry about something as trivial as making a woman want you, what women wanted didn't matter, they were commodities being traded and passed around

Today women play the game on tutorial mode, in the past they weren't even players, they were just another item in the game

What men want is to adhere to the standard of masculinity of their era, it just so happens that in our era that is more determined by ones genetics than ones actions

Many of you don't seem to get that modern masculinity has been feminized, so the mindset that you have now and think is masculine, is a feminized version of masculinity, men of the past weren't really chasing after "love" and "female affection", fathers promised their daughters to men, because we understood that anyone can commit to virtually anyone, "love" doesn't mean anything, your wife will learn to "love" you, it doesn't matter who you marry, whether its for political reasons, business reasons, etc

A lot of men have a female mindset and they don't even realize it, do you think in the past when warring tribes wanting to find peace for the sake of survival, IT JUST SO HAPPENED that the chiefs daughter and the son of the other tribes chief "LOVED" each other

Do you guys believe in such fairy tale coincidences?

Shit like this was normal, and the men had no problem with it, because whether a woman loved you or had affection for you WAS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT FOR THAT ERA (there was more urgent and important shit to focus on, and again a men weren't SOCIALIZED to stake their ego in their ability to invoke desire in the opposite sex)

ALL YOU GUYS ON THIS SITE TALKING ABOUT BLACK PILL THIS, BLACK PILL THAT, IRONICALLY FLIP YOUR LOGIC SWITCH OFF WHEN IT COMES TO WOMEN AND RELATIONSHIPS, AND INSTANTLY FORGET THAT MODERN MALE NORMS ARE DIFFERENT TO THE PAST

Just to give yourself an excuse for your mindset - "I CAN'T HELP MYSELF THAT I WANT "LOVE" AND "AFFECTION", ITS BIOLOGY"

WRONG!


Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socialization

The urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGY
How one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATION

I find too many incels on this site leave out the aspect of conditioning, they act as if the men of the past were as love obsessed as our current generation, the men of the way back past weren't pussy beggars, men prostrating themselves on one knee to beg women to spend their lives with them is relatively new to the history of manhood, yet so many men act like it was the norm EVEN IN THE PAST AND ITS NOT SOCIALIZED. Socialization is a huge aspect on influencing and creating ones behavioral patterns and mindset

So whenever I hear guys on this site saying - "I can't help myself, its biology, I want to be loved"

I CALL BS BASED ON A HISTORY OF ARRANGED MARRIAGES, POLITICAL MARRIAGES, WIVES BEING BOUGHT AND SOLD, WOMEN BEING TAKEN AS BRIDES VIA CONQUEST OF LANDS AND PEOPLE, ETC

THOSE MARAUDERS OF THE PAST WHO RAIDED VILLAGES AND TOOK WOMEN FOR THEIR WIVES DIDN'T ASK THESE WOMEN IF IT WAS LOVE AT FIRST SIGHT (THEY DID NOT CARE, SUCH THINGS WERE IRRELEVANT TO THEM)

SO IF ITS BIOLOGY, YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WERE THE MEN OF THE PAST IGNORING THEIR BIOLOGY?

THE MEN OF THE PAST DID NOT HAVE THE MODERN DAY CUCKED MINDSET MEN HAVE, THEY DID NOT GET OUR PATHETIC BRAND OF MASCULINITY VIA SOCIALIZATION

MASCULINITY HAS BEEN FEMINIZED

ANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF "LOVE" IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)

Its all in our heads.
I know.
Still i would crave it, if it was in front of me.

 

[BlkPillPres]

why are you so sure that they can control their will?

My point is that they didn't have to use their "will" to resist anything, this desire for "love" and "affection" did not exist because those men WEREN'T SOCIALIZED TO BELIEVE IN IT

yes I know that this argument justify the fact that women want chad.

JFL exactly, if you guys are going to be blue pilled and say "I can't help myself, its how I feel" then don't contradict yourself and act as if women are being unreasonable, they can't help themselves either, stop complaining about hypergamy

 

[SuperPerfectCel]

JFL @ not knowing they put chemicals in the food to pacify men.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Incredibly low IQ as usual.

A lot of you are using this "low IQ" thing very ironically

Your thread post history

https://incels.is/search/541645/

From someone who makes such quality threads I'm sure your rating is of what is "low IQ" is of the utmost importance

From your most recent thread today:

https://incels.is/threads/my-penultimate-rank-up-thread.127516/

I wonder if I'm even well known here, since my posting isn't always very consistent and I don't make many threads.

No, nobody knows who you are, I can't even remember seeing you till today, because based on that thread you are just some low IQ post maxxer who posts nothing of importance

Absolutely wrong.
At least read Richard III by Shakespear to see that it was so in the past.

Dude you really think writings of some faggot who appeals to the higher echelon of that time period reflects the general mindset of the average man in that era (especially peasants)

By your logic, the people of our future should look back to the writings of known feminists to see how it was in the past and how the average man thought, the elites of society are far removed from it, especially the academic elites and those in the fields of art, music and literature

 

[incel-american]

Good post.

 

[Salustio]

IQ wasted.

 

[Deleted member 2686]

Lightyears IQ


Seriously

I have seen many normies irl talk bad about arranged marriages

But what they do not realize is that love based relationships were very rare in the past, and most did it out of honor, politics or family

Also in an arranged marriage, you do not know your wife, overtime however, you do and without any outside interference you learn to love your wife

Love based relationships, as defined in the west, is all a ploy, a plot for foids to use men as betabuxx

 

[Emba]

I blame the (((music))).

The ancient meaning of the word, love, was desire and/or lust. Mostly as a physical thing.

 

[RollD20]

Not sure, I think its pretty well documented that humans need some socialization, to function normally. I won't say "love" as a construct necessary. But I do think we do release chemicals that make us happy when we have attention from the opposite gender that we find attractive not just physical attention.

 

[mylifeistrash]

Love is bullshit but MOGGING is the only real good in life.

TO MOG YOUR ENEMIES
TO SEE THEM AS MANLETS BENEATH YOU
AND HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN

 

[BlkPillPres]

TO MOG YOUR ENEMIES
TO SEE THEM AS MANLETS BENEATH YOU
AND HEAR THE LAMENTATIONS OF THEIR WOMEN

JFL, I get the reference

 

[Deleted member 11032]

JFL, I get the reference

What you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.

 

[mylifeistrash]

What you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.

yeah but eventually you learn it's all based on looks so it's better just to focus on the looks part

everything is a waste of time

 

[Deleted member 11032]

yeah but eventually you learn it's all based on looks so it's better just to focus on the looks part

everything is a waste of time

You can't focus on that if you are truecel or agepill has hit. Tbh this level of coping is the most logical way forward. But remember it's a cope at the end of the day.

 

[Ticcel]

I’m actually in the process of undoing a lot of socialized thought patterns that are plaguing me atm. It’s a long road ahead.

 

[BlkPillPres]

What you say makes logical sense. Unfortunately you are coping hard. It is hardwired for men to seek female validation. If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune. Your brain is coping and I don't blame you for that.

1. No it is hardwired for men to seek out sex and reproduction, it is only recently in our history that female validation has become the prerequisite for attaining sex and reproduction, again if the men of the past were hardwired to seek that out, why did they instead buy wives, have arranged marriages, kidnap and rape, why do rapists exist if what men are hardwired to want is female validation, seems to me that men really just want sex, and guys like you are projecting the MODERN PREREQUISITE onto that want because you don't want to think of yourself as weak minded and mentally cucked (but you are)

2. Do you not see the obvious contradiction in your post, how the hell did you not see THIS:

It is hardwired for men to seek female validation

If you ever experienced it you would soon change your tune

SO THE MALE BRAIN IS HARDWIRED FOR MEN TO SEEK IT OUT, YET YOU ARE ASSERTING I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT

SO EITHER I'M NOT A MAN (ELSE I'D HAVE EXPERIENCED IT SINCE ITS "HARDWIRED") OR YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR OWN ARGUMENT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE YOU MADE IT

 

[Deleted member 11032]

1. No it is hardwired for men to seek out sex and reproduction, it is only recently in our history that female validation has become the prerequisite for attaining sex and reproduction, again if the men of the past were hardwired to seek that out, why did they instead buy wives, have arranged marriages, kidnap and rape, why do rapists exist if what men are hardwired to want is female validation, seems to me that men really just want sex, and guys like you are projecting the MODERN PREREQUISITE onto that want because you don't want to think of yourself as weak minded and mentally cucked (but you are)

2. Do you not see the obvious contradiction in your post, how the hell did you not see THIS:




SO THE MALE BRAIN IS HARDWIRED FOR MEN TO SEEK IT OUT, YET YOU ARE ASSERTING I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED IT

SO EITHER I'M NOT A MAN (ELSE I'D HAVE EXPERIENCED IT SINCE ITS "HARDWIRED") OR YOU JUST CONTRADICTED YOUR OWN ARGUMENT IN THE VERY SAME SENTENCE YOU MADE IT

As you have never experienced it your brain has gone cope silly and is trying to justify human companionship as purely transnational.
If you did experience it from a 9/10 Stacy I think you would backtrack on what you are saying. But I MAY be wrong because you may have high narcissism and psychopathic tendencies (not insulting you just saying you might have a certian personality type) which I think may be true due to previous comments on your parents etc.
Of course there are different levels of this. The average soy cuck will donate $$$$ to twitch thots for validation whereas man of culture may find it endearing if a 9/10 stacy gives him validation.
Lots of men who have first hand experience of prostitution (unlike you) find they do not like it and are still depressed. Why is this?
Furthermore if you want an evolutionary biological argument based on science men are hardwired to 'fall in love' and this mitigated (somewhat) them leaving a pregnant foid and fucking other foids.
Moreover you do not need to experience something to know it's truth. Mammals know to instinctively mate.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Lots of men who have first hand experience of prostitution (unlike you)

I have fucked a prostitute, and I plan on escortcelling proficiently after wealthmaxxing

find they do not like it and are still depressed. Why is this?

I literally said why they feel like this in my post, they were indoctrinated to chase after female validation, the men of the past did not face such indoctrination, these men are choosing not to overwrite that programming, I chose to overwrite it, it took time, you think I was just always like this.

You do realize in some cultures it was basically a "right of passage" for a father to take his son to his first whore right? JFL

The reason why these guys are depressed is because they were socialized to feel bad about paying for sex, if they were born in the past in a different culture, they would be alright with it, and even proud of it, guys like you are always talking about normies and how they lack introspection but you are no different than them

Mammals know to instinctively mate.

Yes, and that's it, love is a human concept, just like morality, its something you have to be thought, we see eating other humans and deplorable, in a cannibal tribe a father will sit next to his 10 year old son eating another human and everyone is all smiles like nothing fucked up is happening, because to them nothing fucked up is happening, most everything is socialized

Like I said in my post:

Biology is you wanting to have sex and reproduce, everything else is basically 90% socialization

The urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGY
How one goes about the process of doing that IS SOCIALIZATION

You are conflating the MODERN DAY PROCESS OF PAIR BONDING WITH THE BIOLOGICAL URGE TO PAIR BOND

Its like you are literally pretending as if we pair bonded the same way we do today 5000 years ago, quite obviously not, all this stuff of "love" and "finding the one" is modern BS

Like @Hail The Bloatlord said:

In the 1970s in my town's factory there were people who would arrange marriages, they had a photobook with pictures of women from the poorer south and willing to marry and move over to the north. That's how my grandfather met his second wife.
comfortable lifestyle.

Guys like you are the ones who are coping, you need to tell yourself that its hardwired for you to think the way you do SO THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS (IRONICALLY JUST LIKE A WOMAN)

Also let me remind me of the last line in my post, because you've yet to address that part:

ANYBODY WHO ARGUES THAT THEIR WANT OF "LOVE" IS BIOLOGICAL AND SOMETHING THEY CAN'T RESIST OR CHANGE, HAS IRONICALLY ARGUED IN THE DEFENSE OF FEMALE HYPERGAMY AND WOMEN'S UNREALISTIC STANDARDS (IF YOU CAN'T HELP YOURSELF THEN NEITHER CAN WOMEN)

If you are seriously going to argue that you can't help yourself, you can't change, its completely out of your hands, then good, argue the same for women, stop complaining about hypergamy, if you aren't accountable for your mindset when it comes to this topic then neither are women

 

[Deleted member 11032]

I have fucked a prostitute, and I plan on escortcelling proficiently after wealthmaxxing



I literally said why they feel like this in my post, they were indoctrinated to chase after female validation, the men of the past did not face such indoctrination, these men are choosing not to overwrite that programming, I chose to overwrite it, it took time, you think I was just always like this.



Yes, and that's it, love is a human concept, just like morality, its something you have to be thought, we see eating other humans and deplorable, in a cannibal tribe a father will sit next to his 10 year old son eating another human and everyone is all smiles like nothing fucked up is happening, because to them nothing fucked up is happening, most everything is socialized

Like I said in my post:



You are conflating the MODERN DAY PROCESS OF PAIR BONDING WITH THE BIOLOGICAL URGE TO PAIR BOND

Its like you are literally pretending as if we pair bonded the same way we do today 5000 years ago, quite obviously not, all this stuff of "love" and "finding the one" is modern BS

Like @Hail The Bloatlord said:


Guys like you are the ones who are coping, you need to tell yourself that its hardwired for you to think the way you do SO THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY FOR YOUR OWN ACTIONS (IRONICALLY JUST LIKE A WOMAN)

Also let me remind me of the last line in my post, because you've yet to address that part:


If you are seriously going to argue that you can't help yourself, you can't change, its completely out of your hands, then good, argue the same for women, stop complaining about hypergamy, if you aren't accountable for your mindset when it comes to this topic then neither are women

I agree with you to a certain extent.

You said:

"The urge to pair bond (sex and reproduction) IS BIOLOGY"

So correct me if I'm wrong but you are not just advocating reproduction you are advocating pair bonding. I agree you can see a pretty foid in a photo album and you could pair bond with her but do you really think you could pair bond with the same foid who look miserable to be around you and gives you starfish sex? In caveman times you would forcibly take her and she would pair-bond with you via Stockholm syndrome but this is NOT synonymous with paying for sex
And I don't blame women for hypergamy. I blame the cucked matriarchal soys that have bestowed it upon us.

 

[BlkPillPres]

So correct me if I'm wrong but you are not just advocating reproduction you are advocating pair bonding.

The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkers

do you really think you could pair bond with the same foid who look miserable to be around you and gives you starfish sex?

1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like a woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity). Modern masculinity is literally just adapting female concepts and concepts that appeal to women, into the code of conduct for men to adhere too, modern masculinity is femininity, this is why men today are so focused on their looks, because like women we too now operate as though we have to pretty ourselves up for the opposite sex, we've basically become women

Do you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?

Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn

2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get "starfish sex", I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of "good sex" as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself over

In caveman times you would forcibly take her and she would pair-bond with you via Stockholm syndrome but this is NOT synonymous with paying for sex

Of course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)

 

[Deleted member 11032]

The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkers



1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity)

Do you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?

Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn

2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get "starfish sex", I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of "good sex" as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself over



Of course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)

Ok so good luck in Islamaxing then because paying for gook pussy which from what you've said is your first plan will not work because she knows she can cuck you.
How is paying for sex in Thailand going to be different for you compared to other men? Most of the young Thai girls have a chad boyfriend on the side and cuck men like you for money. If you want to cope and think I'm getting sex so I win think again. Why do you think she is going to ride your cock like a pro? She will do ENOUGH for you to pathetically cling on to her and not enough for you to take her for granted.
I sincerely hope you continue to post on the internet when you have 'decended,' I want to see how your psychological stances change over time due to your circumstances.

 

[gigacel123]

Lightyears IQ


Seriously

I have seen many normies irl talk bad about arranged marriages

But what they do not realize is that love based relationships were very rare in the past, and most did it out of honor, politics or family

Also in an arranged marriage, you do not know your wife, overtime however, you do and without any outside interference you learn to love your wife

Love based relationships, as defined in the west, is all a ploy, a plot for foids to use men as betabuxx

 

[Deleted member 11032]

The only thing I've advocating for, is that men use women like a resource and treat them as such, and stop being mentally cucked and emotional thinkers



1. Yes, very easily, just like all our ancestors did, because I made the choice to stop thinking like a woman, and abandoned modern masculinity as a concept (which is nothing but feminized masculinity). Modern masculinity is literally just adapting female concepts and concepts that appeal to women, into the code of conduct for men to adhere too, modern masculinity is femininity, this is why men today are so focused on their looks, because like women we too now operate as though we have to pretty ourselves up for the opposite sex, we've basically become women

Do you think a man prostrating himself on one knee begging a woman to be with him is a masculine act?

Of course it isn't, its pathetic and weak, but its what men do today, I understand as time goes on humans try to be less barbaric, but men have allowed this to go to far, modern masculinity is absolutely pathetic, there's no way to feel like a man if you are average because you'll be put down and taken advantage of at every turn

2. Starfish sex only happens to men who don't have control over their women, and by control I mean fear and ownership. You think muslim men in islamic states get "starfish sex", I doubt it, she'll ride that dick like pro or face the consequences JFL. The fact that you are speaking of "good sex" as something a woman must give you rather than something you demand IS EXACTLY MY POINT, masculinity has been feminized, its neutered, men are no longer in control, and taking part in the game is only screwing yourself over



Of course its not synonymous with paying for sex, its rape. But paying for sex has the same underlying principal, that a woman's body is something for you to use, rather than something you have to play mind games and jump through hoops to earn (dating)

Also what's your explanation for men taking longer to get over a breakup than foids? It's proven from a plethora of empirical evidence that foids can get over a breakup more easily due to being hardwired to move on to the next provider. Men kill themselves when they break up with the foid they pair bonded with. Are you saying this is purely because they've been brainwashed by mainstream media? No they fall into an instinctual deep depression.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Ok so good luck in Islamaxing then because paying for gook pussy which from what you've said is your first plan will not work because she knows she can cuck you.

Cuck me how, she's not by girlfriend, I'm paying to use her body, how do I get cucked?

How is paying for sex in Thailand going to be different for you compared to other men? Most of the young Thai girls have a chad boyfriend on the side and cuck men like you for money.

I seriously don't get what you're saying, what do you mean by "cuck", that she won't have sex with me?, you do realize there are specific places you can go where whores are known to be around right, there are guides for stuff like that, I'm not just going to be approaching random women in thailand hoping one is willing to fuck for money

If you want to cope and think I'm getting sex so I win think again. Why do you think she is going to ride your cock like a pro? She will do ENOUGH for you to pathetically cling on to her and not enough for you to take her for granted.

I think you are confused, you are speaking as if I plan to date or marry these women

I sincerely hope you continue to post on the internet when you have 'decended,' I want to see how your psychological stances change over time due to your circumstances.

I will continue to post, and you'll see that my mind won't change, in fact I'll be even more secure in my beliefs

Also what's your explanation for men taking longer to get over a breakup than foids? It's proven from a plethora of empirical evidence that foids can get over a breakup more easily due to being hardwired to move on to the next provider.

Men have to invest more into relationships than women do, for the most part all women invest are their holes, that's it, men have to do way more

1. Men have to stake their dignity and approach, and face multiple rejections to finally succeed

2. Men are the primary spenders in a relationship, having to pay most bills, for food, drinks, clothing, bills, contraception, etc

I think the reason why men hurt more due to loss of a relationship IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHING

A woman gets cheated on, all she really got is hurt feelings, she can get another man in a week if she wanted to

A man gets cheated on, he lost all of his time, money and effort invested up to that point, that is going to weight heavy on your mind especially when you contemplate that you now have to START ALL OVER AGAIN and likely put yourself through it again, more approaches to relive the feeling of rejection and failure, more money to spend on a different person, gambling and hoping you get sex, more stress and mind games

Men kill themselves when they break up with the foid they pair bonded with. Are you saying this is purely because they've been brainwashed by mainstream media? No they fall into an instinctual deep depression.

Yes its due to socialization, but mostly its due to investment, to compare a woman's loss to a man's loss is a COMPLETELY FALSE COMPARISON

A woman loses the "love of her life" and she knows full well there are men lined up willing to take his place, that will spend money to do so too, so its easier to convince herself to "move on", truth is there was nothing there to "move on" from, there was no real investment

A man loses the "love of his life" and he lost all the time, money and effort he put into getting her, on top of that he now has to go about the entire demoralizing process of getting another woman, like I said before, more rejection and failure, more self doubt, more money, time and effort being invested into what you know is a gamble

That shit weighs heavy on your mind and makes you stressed out, so no wonder some men decide they are tired of life and just want to end it, they don't want to repeat the entire process

If men had to invest as much into relationships as women did, the suicide rate for break ups would be the same between the sexes, men have to invest way more than women, women basically invest nothing into a relationship

Here's the difference:
Men: House you built with your own hands, using your own money is burned down
Women: Apartment you were renting that had a nice view burned down

 

[Deleted member 11032]

Cuck me how, she's not by girlfriend, I'm paying to use her body, how do I get cucked?



I seriously don't get what you're saying, what do you mean by "cuck", that she won't have sex with me?, you do realize there are specific places you can go where whores are known to be around right, there are guides for stuff like that, I'm not just going to be approaching random women in thailand hoping one is willing to fuck for money



I think you are confused, you are speaking as if I plan to date or marry these women



I will continue to post, and you'll see that my mind won't change, in fact I'll be even more secure in my beliefs






Men have to invest more into relationships than women do, for the most part all women invest are their holes, that's it, men have to do way more

1. Men have to stake their dignity and approach, and face multiple rejections to finally succeed

2. Men are the primary spenders in a relationship, having to pay most bills, for food, drinks, clothing, bills, contraception, etc

I think the reason why men hurt more due to loss of a relationship IS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY LOST SOMETHING

A woman gets cheated on, all she really got is hurt feelings, she can get another man in a week if she wanted to

A man gets cheated on, he lost all of his time, money and effort invested up to that point, that is going to weight heavy on your mind especially when you contemplate that you now have to START ALL OVER AGAIN and likely put yourself through it again, more approaches to relive the feeling of rejection and failure, more money to spend on a different person, gambling and hoping you get sex, more stress and mind games



Yes its due to socialization, but mostly its due to investment, to compare a woman's loss to a man's loss is a COMPLETELY FALSE COMPARISON

A woman loses the "love of her life" and she knows full well there are men lined up willing to take his place, that will spend money to do so

A man loses the "love of his life" and he lost all the time, money and effort he put into getting her, on top of that he now has to go about the entire demoralizing process of getting another woman, like I said before, more rejection and failure, more self doubt, more money, time and effort being invested into what you know is a gamble

That shit weighs heavy on your mind and makes you stressed out, so no wonder some men decide they are tired of life and just want to end it, they don't want to repeat the entire process

If men had to invest as much into relationships as women did, the suicide rate for break ups would be the same between the sexes, men have to invest way more than women, women basically invest nothing into a relationship

Here's the difference:
Men: House you built with your own hands, using your own money is burned down
Women: Apartment you were renting that had a nice view burned down

There are countless examples of men in their teens killing themselves who didn't pay a penny on the foid and just showed up. Male models have killed themselves over women. When a man pair bonds and that bond breaks it can seriously fuck him up. A lot of what you say is the truth but for every counter you come up with a remonstration that fits your agenda. Tbh your level of coping is admirable compared to those who just bitch and do nothing (which you have argued against in the past). I wish you the best of luck.

 

[Hikage-best-knaifu]

So whats the solution?

 

[BlkPillPres]

There are countless examples of men in their teens killing themselves who didn't pay a penny on the foid and just showed up. Male models have killed themselves over women.

I never claimed it was just money invested, I clearly remember stating time and effort goes into the task, a man has to stake his dignity when approaching, of course there's a stronger psychological effect on men who lose women, their very ego was staked in attaining her, whereas with women there is nothing staked, they are judge, jury and executioner

A lot of what you say is the truth but for every counter you come up with a remonstration that fits your agenda.

I could say the same about you

Tbh your level of coping is admirable compared to those who just bitch and do nothing (which you have argued against in the past). I wish you the best of luck.

You can keep calling it coping all you want, that won't make it true, I'd argue its guys like you that a coping, you can keep telling yourself - "its not my fault, I can't do anything" and give yourself comfy pats on the back

 

[Deleted member 11032]

So whats the solution?

Short version: escortmax apparently.

 

[NoMoreSlaving]

So whats the solution?

Just pay for prostitutes BROOO

OP back at it again with his daily cucked delusions

 

[BlkPillPres]

So whats the solution?

The only two solutions I have come up with is:

1. Wealthmaxx + Islammaxx

2. Wealthmaxx + Prostitutionmaxx

Choose either or, but if you are going to choose both, you have to do #2 first and then abandon it forever when you go to #1

Becoming a muslim in a strict islamic country/state is the only way to have access to guaranteed sex outside of prostitution, its the only reason its on the list, all other religions are pointless when it comes to securing sexual and reproductive resources

Remember though, you can't bring the bitch "back with you" to any cucked westernized country, you better make up your mind to stay within the culture in which you have control over her, you have to make a decision, you can't go to the west after to get married to a woman within an Islamic state, you are just setting yourself up to be cucked

 

[Deleted member 11032]

there's a stronger psychological effect on men who lose women, their very ego was staked in attaining her,

Put simply I'm saying that psychological effect is ingrained in their psyche. I don't believe NPCs programme men to think this way. SOME men (not all) go in a very dark place when they lose their woman akin to losing a family member. Not because of the dearth of money or ego because they have a bond broken.

The only two solutions I have come up with is:

1. Wealthmaxx + Islammaxx

2. Wealthmaxx + Prostitutionmaxx

Choose either or, but if you are going to choose both, you have to do #2 first and then abandon it forever when you go to #1

Becoming a muslim in a strict islamic country/state is the only way to have access to guaranteed sex outside of prostitution, its the only reason its on the list, all other religions are pointless when it comes to securing sexual and reproductive resources

So all men reading this who want validation you should pick option 1. Shame there are no white muslim women.

 

[BlkPillPres]

SOME men (not all) go in a very dark place when they lose their woman akin to losing a family member. Not because of the dearth of money or ego because they have a bond broken.

Yes that's because modern men are socialized differently, we were born in "nice times" so our conditioning is more lax and "nice", we don't have to be stern and ruthless in these times so men aren't socialized/conditioned to be

Men are actually thought to be emotional and caring in these times, I'm not saying that men of the past would be unphased by a family member dying, but in certain times you were more accustomed to it, and basically thought to expect and accept it, you have to be a man and be strong and focus on the now for the sake of all those dependent on you that are still alive, you did not have the luxury of giving in to emotions and falling apart

So all men who want validation you should pick option 1. Shame there are no white muslim women.

I think its a good choice regardless of wanting validation, I care nothing of validation, it just seems convenient to me, to live in a society where I have control over the women I desire. I like the security and peace of mind that provides

Also what do you mean by shame, some arabic women but white women to shame, especially western white women, also arabs are basically caucasoids for the most part

Just pay for prostitutes BROOO

OP back at it again with his daily cucked delusions

Learn to read bro, I know its hard for you bro

 

[Deleted member 11032]

Just pay for prostitutes BROOO

OP back at it again with his daily cucked delusions

He is objectifying women to the point where any action they take will not affect him. His point on Islammaxing is legit because there's a chance for pair bonding. But how many here are going to Islammax? I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.

 

[NoMoreSlaving]

He is objectifying women to the point where any action they take will not affect him. His point on Islammaxing is legit because there's a chance for pair bonding. But how many here are going to Islammax? I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.

He is coping

 

[BlkPillPres]

I don't want to Islammax. Guess I'm fucked.

You could try joining the amish, I'm sure that will be more difficult though as women aren't treated like property as much, and also you'd better be white JFL. Actually amish wouldn't work, these people don't have much wealth and I'm not sure they'd let any man who is wealthmaxxed into their community for fear of him corrupting their nature.

Why don't you want to Islammaxx?

You'd only have to make a tiny sacrifice relative to what is gained

 

[Deleted member 11032]

He is coping

If he has low empathy which I'm sure he does his cope is legit. Inb4 empathy is for cucks.

 

[BlkPillPres]

He is coping

In what way, please be specific, I find its too easy to just throw words around without an explanation on this site, why is anything I'm saying a cope?

If he has low empathy which I'm sure he does his cope is legit. Inb4 empathy is for cucks.

Empathy is for cucks JFL, abandon your ego and empathy, and you will find true freedom

Also yes I do have low empathy, but I didn't start off like that, I basically had to train the empathy out of me, teach myself to stop caring about people

This is why I hate seeing excuses like - "I can't help how I feel"

Really then how did I change, magic?

 

[Deleted member 11032]

You could try joining the amish, I'm sure that will be more difficult though as women aren't treated like property as much, and also you'd better be white JFL. Actually amish wouldn't work, these people don't have much wealth and I'm not sure they'd let any man who is wealthmaxxed into their community for fear of him corrupting their nature.

Why don't you want to Islammaxx?

You'd only have to make a tiny sacrifice relative to what is gained

I would prefer a white foid tbh. Also Islamaxing would require me to leave my job, learn a new language. I guess if you want it enough you would go but the same principle applies - they might view you as an outsider.

 

[Deleted member 677]

 

[Deleted member 11032]

In what way, please be specific, I find its too easy to just throw words around without an explanation on this site, why is anything I'm saying a cope?


Empathy is for cucks JFL, abandon your ego and empathy, and you will find true freedom

Also yes I do have low empathy, but I didn't start off like that, I basically had to train the empathy out of me, teach myself to stop caring about people

I agree it is for cucks. I have fucked up in my past big time due to being too compassionate. I learnt the hard way. Agepill has got me now so I'm fucked.
Any tips for teaching myself?

 

[BlkPillPres]

I would prefer a white foid tbh. Also Islamaxing would require me to leave my job, learn a new language. I guess if you want it enough you would go but the same principle applies - they might view you as an outsider.

Islam is a more accepting religion though than others, especially because of how strict it is, as long as you are strict and adhere to their rules, members will treat you like you are family, just don't slip up and eat pork in public or something lol

I have no problem learning a new language (always wanted to), also that's why I say wealthmaxxing is important, you want to be resourceful before you move and leave your past life behind

I agree it is for cucks. I have fucked up in my past big time due to being too compassionate. I learnt the hard way. Agepill has got me now so I'm fucked.
Any tips for teaching myself?

Dude you have no idea how much I fucked up in life due to caring and feeling, I cringe a lot of times, flashing back to past things I did

What I did to empathize less with people was to binge browse 4chan gore, murder and accidental death threads

At first its going to disgust and disturb you, and overtime its going to be like "meh" for you, and at some point you are even going to see the humor in certain deaths because it actually looked funny (something you'd be too disturbed to notice when you had now started)

It won't take long tbh, a few months at most, incorporate it like a daily regiment, maybe even every night before you go to sleep

Also embrace feelings of hate, hold onto it, be goal focused, so that any obstacle ahead of you, including other people, will be seen as nothing in comparison

Stop thinking of morality as something black and white, understand that its grey, subjective, and doesn't matter

TBH I think I'm going to research further into this, I know I have a long ways to go, I want to make my thinking as "robotic" as possible, I want to be far removed from human thinking and humanity, its probably possible to make myself feel even less for humans and life in general, and I want to get to the point where nothing phases me

 

[Ugly_equals_Death]

I want them to suffer. I want to kill them and turn their bodies into mountains of skulls and rivers of blood. Is this biological or socialized?





(Just kidding its satire)

 

[BlkPillPres]

I want them to suffer. I want to kill them and turn their bodies into mountains of skulls and rivers of blood. Is this biological or socialized?





(Just kidding its satire)

You dare make light of the supreme gentleman's woooooooooords!