Blackpill [Hard to swallow edition] Paying money for adult pornography is more unethical than watching child pornography for free.

[sub8male]

Lots of actors in adult pornography are actually under 18 and are trafficked into the business. So when you pay for adult pornography, you are funding an industry which trafficks minors into sex acts on camera. Meanwhile, when you watch child pornography for free, you are not funding any industry which is involved in trafficking.

Therefore, from an ethical standpoint, it is worse to pay for adult pornography than it is to watch CP for free.

Some basic info btw:

Pornography and Sex Trafficking

Sex trafficking (a subset of human trafficking) is the fastest growing criminal business in the world and the third largest criminal enterprise since 2010. The International Labour Organization estimates that over 150 million dollars are illegally made through the exploitation of 21 million...

theccbi.com

 

[lukesxber]

but muh porn

 

[faded]

 

[Deleted member 41364]

IT will touch this one, but I will talk about my opinion on this.

No one forces foids to get trafficked. They voluntarily do this, and they get pleasure from the sex. Imagine getting paid for pleasure.

 

[Schery6]

Imagine paying someone else to have sex with a foid that you find attractive

thats why i only watch rape porn (in animal crossing)

 

[Deleted member 41364]

Imagine paying someone else to have sex with a foid that you find attractive

This. Most generic vanilla porn "teens" tend to look like roasties. Where are they getting these young, fresh girls for their porn? It mustn't be too mainstream then.

 

[VolvoKuken1337]

 

[negativecel]

Imagine paying someone else to have sex with a foid that you find attractive

 

[negativecel]

Ok keep paying for porn then

Lol, I've never paid for porn, and I agree with your post anyway

 

[Nihilistic Lowlife]

Fuck society i dont pay for anything if you want food and you can steal it do it if you want to fuck you know what to do too ( in video game).

 

[racoon4]

 

[Incelius Savage]

Quit making these fucking threads.

 

[Deleted member 41551]

So therefore it's all CP. I had a hunch that was happening in porn which is another reason why I am in a life or death struggle against it. I don't care if the foids and chads in the scene are enjoying it, the effects of watching it on the human brain are objectively negative. We don't have to go into the age debate, porn itself is toxic waste that gets inserted into our eyelids. If there is one thing I hope gets picked up more in the incel community it's that porn is actually not a great cope. Like soda that's loaded with sugars. Sure it tastes good but it is actually bad for you.

The ages, the profiles they make, the fake names they use. It's all a scam to mask the truth: if you watch porn at all you have probably seen CP (unless you browse the mature tag exclusively) The sinister stuff right there. That is why the only guarantee of not seeing it even unintentionally is to not watch porn period. It's only day 2

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

Lots of actors in adult pornography are actually under 18 and are trafficked into the business. So when you pay for adult pornography, you are funding an industry which trafficks minors into sex acts on camera. Meanwhile, when you watch child pornography for free, you are not funding any industry which is involved in trafficking.

Therefore, from an ethical standpoint, it is worse to pay for adult pornography than it is to watch CP for free.

Some basic info btw:

Pornography and Sex Trafficking

Sex trafficking (a subset of human trafficking) is the fastest growing criminal business in the world and the third largest criminal enterprise since 2010. The International Labour Organization estimates that over 150 million dollars are illegally made through the exploitation of 21 million...

theccbi.com

I’d be highly surprised if this shit isn’t already on IT, dont care enough to check tho

 

[sub8male]

This. Most generic vanilla porn "teens" tend to look like roasties. Where are they getting these young, fresh girls for their porn? It mustn't be too mainstream then.

Most of those teens are 18+, not JBs.

 

[uo89997]

How's it going IT?

 

[uo89997]

This is obviously not right. Most pornstars on not trafficked and chose to get into pornography. This talking point is cucked and bluepilled.

 

[uo89997]

IT will touch this one, but I will talk about my opinion on this.

No one forces foids to get trafficked. They voluntarily do this, and they get pleasure from the sex. Imagine getting paid for pleasure.

 

[sub8male]

This is obviously not right. Most pornstars on not trafficked and chose to get into pornography. This talking point is cucked and bluepilled.

It's not cucked because I never said most were, but a certain amount indeed are, particularly the younger ones in the "teen porn" category.

 

[uo89997]

It's not cucked because I never said most were, but a certain amount indeed are, particularly the younger ones in the "teen porn" category.

Not really bro. As someone who used to watch a lot of mainstream porn most of them were just teens looking to make some quick money from America. Porn is an industry it's not something you can jsut do under the table.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

Yes...this thread was posted before. Perhaps it was deleted?

 

[sub8male]

Not really bro. As someone who used to watch a lot of mainstream porn most of them were just teens looking to make some quick money from America. Porn is an industry it's not something you can jsut do under the table.

Okay sure I'll trust some random incel on a forum who jerks off a bunch to pornhub over experts who report on human trafficking.

 

[uo89997]

Okay sure I'll trust some random incel on a forum who jerks off a bunch to pornhub over experts who report on human trafficking.

While pornography is not at the root of this heinous business, it is surely associated with it. After interviewing almost 900 women across 9 countries, researcher Melissa Farley says that “pornography is men’s rehearsal for prostitution.”

I would rather listen to a fellow incel than a bluepilled feminist

 

[sub8male]

I would rather listen to a fellow incel than a bluepilled feminist

It's not bluepilled to say there is an association with human trafficking when stats literally back it up. @Edmund_Kemper

 

[uo89997]

It's not bluepilled to say there is an association with human trafficking when stats literally back it up. @Edmund_Kemper

I can fight your bluepilled articles with other bluepilled articles: https://www.vice.com/en/article/mbzvaa/porn-performer-reality-myth-job

 

[sub8male]

I can fight your bluepilled articles with other bluepilled articles: https://www.vice.com/en/article/mbzvaa/porn-performer-reality-myth-job

The "debunking" was in this article:

Evidence Mounts: More Porn, Less Sexual Assault

Those who claim that porn incites rape are mistaken.

www.psychologytoday.com

Which only debunked that porn leads to rape, and came to the conclusion that porn leads to less rape. However, to say that human trafficking and porn have absolutely zero correlation is false, because even if many pornstars do it voluntarily, not all do.

Furthermore, you still haven't debunked the title of the thread, which compared paying for adult pornography, vs watching child pornography for free.

 

[uo89997]

The "debunking" was in this article:

Evidence Mounts: More Porn, Less Sexual Assault

Those who claim that porn incites rape are mistaken.

www.psychologytoday.com

Which only debunked that porn leads to rape, and came to the conclusion that porn leads to less rape. However, to say that human trafficking and porn have absolutely zero correlation is false, because even if many pornstars do it voluntarily, not all do.

Furthermore, you still haven't debunked the title of the thread, which compared paying for adult pornography, vs watching child pornography for free.

You really need me to debunk that paying for adult pornography is less ethical than watching child pornography for free? Children cannot consent under the law so every child porn video is literal rape not to mention most of the children in those videos probably are kidnapped. Riley Reid on the other hand entered the porn industry on her own.

If the question was about which one was more cucked it would be a different story.

 

[sub8male]

You really need me to debunk that paying for adult pornography is less ethical than watching child pornography for free? Children cannot consent under the law

Child is defined as under 18, and AoC is less than 18 in most places. So in certain scenarios children can consent to sex under the law.

so every child porn video is literal rape

this is word games. Lack of legal consent does not mean forced sex met with resistance. "Literal rape", is misleading.

Also, watching it for free is different from producing it. We are not talking about producing it but viewing it for free.

not to mention most of the children in those videos probably are kidnapped.

You don't know that. Lots of CP is just leaked nudes from teens sexting.

Riley Reid on the other hand entered the porn industry on her own.

Single example, many pornstars of adult industry can be trafficked, including some minors who pass as adults.

 

[D.R.]

Anti-CP laws are hypocritical just because gore footage is legal anyway I would argue.

Imagine living in a society where gore videos are illegal ''because someone had to be abused for it to exist'', even horror movies are illegal ''because what if someone did that in real life???'', but then videos of infants being raped to death are perfectly legal.

Just that we live in the opposite society where watching CP is illegal ''because someone had to be abused for it to exist'' (not always true anyway but whatever), even fake CP is legal ''because what if someone did that in real life???'', but then videos of people being decapitated and burned alive are perfectly legal.

It's even weirder when people argue watching any porn for free should be illegal because of the chance that it could be abusive, when gore videos aren't landing anyone in jail, though I guess some PC feminists would be ok with doing that as well, I don't know.

 

[TheDarkEnigma]

Child is defined as under 18, and AoC is less than 18 in most places. So in certain scenarios children can consent to sex under the law.

this is word games. Lack of legal consent does not mean forced sex met with resistance. "Literal rape", is misleading.

Also, watching it for free is different from producing it. We are not talking about producing it but viewing it for free.

You don't know that. Lots of CP is just leaked nudes from teens sexting.

Single example, many pornstars of adult industry can be trafficked, including some minors who pass as adults.

Yes, there is a difference between teens taking naked pictures of themselves and sending them to their boyfriends. But real young children are exploited and raped.

 

[sub8male]

Yes, there is a difference between teens taking naked pictures of themselves and sending them to their boyfriends. But real young children are exploited and raped.

Yes, and this happens in "adult" pornography as well.

 

[Deleted member 41729]

Insanely high IQ thread. So many agecucked normies wanna act all self righteous when they are people who engage in sorts of "degeneracy" as well. The only difference is that it's supposedly between "consenting adults", except it often isn't. On top of this, sexual degeneracy spreads like wildfire, you cannot have a sexually degenerate adult population without it seeping it into the younger generation, it's a pipe dream sold by feminists.

 

[Furlossus]

Imagine paying someone else to have sex with a foid that you find attractive

 

[Persecuted]

I don't pay for any porn shit and it's hard for me to care for plight of those foids, they would whore themselves anyway.

 

[Deleted member 41364]

I don't pay for any porn shit and it's hard for me to care plight of those foids, they would whore themselves anyway.

Oh, no. But they are just innocent teenage girls!! Their lives are so hard because their vagina oppresses them because everyone wants to look at them and fuck them!!

 

[Persecuted]

Oh, no. But they are just innocent teenage girls!! Their lives are so hard because their vagina oppresses them because everyone wants to look at them and fuck them!!

Thier issue, not mine. They should atleast get the taste of soyciety indefference.

 

[Deleted member 41364]

Thier issue, not mine. They should atleast get the taste of soyciety indefference.

I am joking. I would love to be sexualized as much as teenage foids are sexualized.

 

[Persecuted]

I am joking. I would love to be sexualized as much as teenage foids are sexualized.

All I wanted to say that I don't give a shit about foids problems, even the biggest foid problem is meme next to male problems.

 

[iceandblood]

Watching porn as a whole is VERY cucked, specially if you pay for it. But child porn is just plain fucking evil. Your childhood is the formation of your character and the good days of your life. Every child deserves a good childhood because they are innocent. How much of a mentalfuck do you need to be to violate children like that?

 

[sub8male]

Watching porn as a whole is VERY cucked, specially if you pay for it. But child porn is just plain fucking evil. Your childhood is the formation of your character and the good days of your life. Every child deserves a good childhood because they are innocent. How much of a mentalfuck do you need to be to violate children like that?

How much of a mentalfuck do you need to be to not know the difference between watching CP and producing CP.

 

[iceandblood]

How much of a mentalfuck do you need to be to not know the difference between watching CP and producing CP.

Watching cp is to get aroused to see children being violated. And i didn't say that referring to you Op I said that referring to soyddit retards that watch cp

 

[sub8male]

Watching cp is to get aroused to see children being violated

So what? You're not violating them, they already were violated. (Actually depends on the CP technically).

Your argument is absolute shit.

 

[iceandblood]

So what? You're not violating them, they already were violated. (Actually depends on the CP technically).

Your argument is absolute shit.

This is like saying that a foid that finds enjoyment at watching you get humiliated or falsely accused (and possibly have your life ruined) by another foid is different because she isn't the one who did it. One of them is worse, I know, but it does not excuse the other that also have a shit behavior

 

[sub8male]

This is like saying that a foid that finds enjoyment at watching you get humiliated or falsely accused (and possibly have your life ruined) by another foid is different because she isn't the one who did it. One of them is worse, I know, but it does not excuse the other that also have a shit behavior

Actually, I would say it does excuse it. Especially if she is laughing in the privacy of her home to an online video.

 

[iceandblood]

Actually, I would say it does excuse it. Especially if she is laughing in the privacy of her home to an online video.

The foid that laughed at my back over my misery and ruin without I knowing it did not harm me, but public or not this will tell a lot about her character. When she laughs at it it's because she is supporting it. Why would I excuse people that support my ruin? Especially foids

 

[sub8male]

The foid that laughed at my back over my misery and ruin without I knowing it did not harm me,

Therefore she did no harm. Plain and simple.

but public or not this will tell a lot about her character. When she laughs at it it's because she is supporting it.

"supporting" is vague, in the sense that she isn't paying for it to happen. That's what I meant when I was talking about viewing CP for free.

I would say "enjoying what she sees" is more accurate. @Wizard32

Why would I excuse people that support my ruin? Especially foids

The burden of proof is on you to prove she did something wrong, not on me to defend her.

 

[Sheogorath]

Lots of actors in adult pornography are actually under 18 and are trafficked into the business. So when you pay for adult pornography, you are funding an industry which trafficks minors into sex acts on camera. Meanwhile, when you watch child pornography for free, you are not funding any industry which is involved in trafficking.

Therefore, from an ethical standpoint, it is worse to pay for adult pornography than it is to watch CP for free.

Some basic info btw:

Pornography and Sex Trafficking

Sex trafficking (a subset of human trafficking) is the fastest growing criminal business in the world and the third largest criminal enterprise since 2010. The International Labour Organization estimates that over 150 million dollars are illegally made through the exploitation of 21 million...

theccbi.com

OP makes a lot of good points but he should be phrasing it "adult" pornography since he's alleging they are actually under 18

or perhaps we call it pseudo-adult porn (PAP)

Watching cp is to get aroused to see children being violated.

that is not the only possible motive for watching it

that's like saying you can only watch horror films to get scared

or you can only watch rom-coms because you think they're well-written and not trash you hate-watch to understand normy psychology

I pet you think guys only read loli manga to fap to it too, don't you?

Some of that manga I read makes me feel all kinds of stuff besides lust bro, our analysis of media is multi-faceted and induces many reactions.

 

[Cristo]

What actress are you saying is under 18?

 

[sub8male]

that is not the only possible motive for watching it

that's like saying you can only watch horror films to get scared

or you can only watch rom-coms because you think they're well-written and not trash you hate-watch to understand normy psychology

I pet you think guys only read loli manga to fap to it too, don't you?

Some of that manga I read makes me feel all kinds of stuff besides lust bro, our analysis of media is multi-faceted and induces many reactions.

What other motives do you think CP viewers have for watching CP besides masturbating?

 

[Sheogorath]

What other motives do you think CP viewers have for watching CP besides masturbating?

Perhaps they are open to the idea that they internally/subconsciously might over-idealize underage sex as a mostly positive/harmless experience and might be blind to (minimize/overlook) some of the negative aspects of it.

If that is indeed the case want to witness what is negative so they can be upset and gain empathy and genuinely condemn it based on their own observations instead of others.

There are manga where sex doesn't turn out good and the girls are crying and shit and might even rope or get killed or kill the guy, etc. Maybe some sadists read that to fap but others read it to confront and experience emotions other than arousal.