Serious Hard to accept: Men need women more than women need men

[Esoteric7]

YouTube community post from some black pill doomer:

“The reality is, and the hard truth straight males have to now accept is that men need women more than they need us. They need us more in the sense of working and maintaining the society, but in terms of their own life and social fulfillment they don't need us. Straight males who don't "get" women alot of them become bitter, emotionally disregulated and struggle to function. Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

Why do you think the loser/incel label is exclusively used for males? And with the women now earning their own money, they increasingly move towards independence. Most males strive to be successful for the promise of a woman, but women strive to be successful purely for themselves and their own social gain and materialism. We need them but they dont need us, they can pick us based on a whimsical want rather than a need.

Only very few males can tolerate or thrive in loneliness and isolation without having women or a woman in their life, most without female attention become dysfunctional and rageful.

Its not that women are better at handling loneliness, HELL NO its more so that they are better at getting social bonds with other women and on average aren't as sex dependent as males.

Then this comes back to most men not caring about one another so alot of guys cant invest in each other emotionally like women can with one another (that would be seen as gay). Its a hardpill to swallow but the whole cat lady suffering at 30 thing is cope. Most of us are the ones suffering“

 

[wereq]

Hard to accept: Men need women more than women need men​

I don't need a misandrist, parasitic, looting, slave-driving foid that seek to cuck me and rule over me. I am much happier on my own.

 

[wereq]

Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

Because they are still provided all the privileges of having men in their lives. All of their construction, plumbing, utilities, electricity, gas, and what not are taken care of. In the past, you'd rely on fathers and husbands to build and troubleshoot. Not anymore. Now every boss babe has hordes of slaves at her disposal ready to take care of her every need.

 

[_meh]

Yes.

Women don't need men as much. Women also mog men in all aspects of life (minus physical strength which doesn't matter much, especially in modern Western societies).

They have everything they need to satisfy themselves, like you've alluded to in the OP

That's part of the reason why the red pill and MGTOW (can't believe that's still a thing) are coping about men not needing women. Everyone knows their BS'ing. It's just the fact that they can't easily attract women.

 

[wereq]

(minus physical strength which doesn't matter much, especially in modern Western societies).

Even physical strength now! I'm seeing more and more women lifting three plates.

View: https://streamable.com/7kf8ac

 

[wereq]

Women don't need men as much.

Women still need men, its just that men have been successfully enslaved by women so there's need for women to reciprocate. All the infrastructure is still developed, run, and maintained by men.

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

only in cuckciety

don't be a free agent in life

 

[Shay]

only in cuckciety

 

[Pancakecel]

That's why you should just neet, if possible. We're essentially excess waste, only useful to the world as wageslaves. Contributing to a soyciety that doesn't give a shit about you is cucked, though I understand its not easy for everyone to get neetbux.

 

[wickedsorrow]

YouTube community post from some black pill doomer:

“The reality is, and the hard truth straight males have to now accept is that men need women more than they need us. They need us more in the sense of working and maintaining the society, but in terms of their own life and social fulfillment they don't need us. Straight males who don't "get" women alot of them become bitter, emotionally disregulated and struggle to function. Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

Why do you think the loser/incel label is exclusively used for males? And with the women now earning their own money, they increasingly move towards independence. Most males strive to be successful for the promise of a woman, but women strive to be successful purely for themselves and their own social gain and materialism. We need them but they dont need us, they can pick us based on a whimsical want rather than a need.

Only very few males can tolerate or thrive in loneliness and isolation without having women or a woman in their life, most without female attention become dysfunctional and rageful.

Its not that women are better at handling loneliness, HELL NO its more so that they are better at getting social bonds with other women and on average aren't as sex dependent as males.

Then this comes back to most men not caring about one another so alot of guys cant invest in each other emotionally like women can with one another (that would be seen as gay). Its a hardpill to swallow but the whole cat lady suffering at 30 thing is cope. Most of us are the ones suffering“

We only need them to fuck them and amuse ourselves

 

[Skinner.etAL]

That's why you should just neet, if possible. We're essentially excess waste, only useful to the world as wageslaves. Contributing to a soyciety that doesn't give a shit about you is cucked, though I understand its not easy for everyone to get neetbux.

 

[IWWorkER]

Retard who wrote this cant tell the difference between need and want

 

[IWWorkER]

Women need men, men want women

 

[EcstasyCel]

People are born male to pay back karmic debt, people are born female to spend their karmic wealth.

 

[sub5ricemale]

If it wernt for foids, i swear no man would ever work anymore.

Men are getting quite demotivated nowadays because the pussy is getting taken away from them.

If you take away the pussy of every essential worker, soyciety would collapse in seconds

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

The only reason this is the case is because we live in a gynocentric society that caters to women, and extracts labor and resources from men, handing it to women and elevating their status in society; women still need men, but the only difference is that now all their needs are taken care of indirectly, while men receive nothing in return. This means they are free to focus on other matters, and the resultant intersexual dynamics are to be expected.

To put is simply, they just don’t need individual men anymore. The system still runs on male labor, male taxes, male infrastructure, and male protection. A woman’s social fulfillment is subsidized by a gynocentric system that cushions her from consequence. That doesn’t mean she’s self-sufficient, only that the dependency has been externalized and collectivized.

 

[rcnfive]

this is true. and it's our own damn fault for giving them rights.

 

[Izayacel]

The only reason this is the case is because we live in a gynocentric society that caters to women, and extracts labor and resources from men, handing it to women and elevating their status in society; women still need men, but the only difference is that now all their needs are taken care of indirectly, while men receive nothing in return. This means they are free to focus on other matters, and the resultant intersexual dynamics are to be expected.

To put is simply, they just don’t need individual men anymore. The system still runs on male labor, male taxes, male infrastructure, and male protection. A woman’s social fulfillment is subsidized by a gynocentric system that cushions her from consequence. That doesn’t mean she’s self-sufficient, only that the dependency has been externalized and collectivized.

 

[Caichan]

I don't need a misandrist, parasitic, looting, slave-driving foid that seek to cuck me and rule over me. I am much happier on my own.

freedom

 

[wereq]

freedom

and sovereignty!

 

[Grodd]

Absolute cope, if it weren't for Men women wouldn't have 99% of modern conviences,medicine,technology etc.

 

[Rick prime]

I don't need a misandrist, parasitic, looting, slave-driving foid that seek to cuck me and rule over me. I am much happier on my own.

 

[Rick prime]

Absolute cope, if it weren't for Men women wouldn't have 99% of modern conviences,medicine,technology etc.

 

[Flagellum_Dei]

Yet another post of you being cuck. Sad.

 

[pedrolopezwasright]

Yet another post of you being cuck. Sad.

 

[sub5ricemale]

He aint cuckin. Hes just copebusting

Yet another post of you being cuck. Sad.

 

[Sex-Starved Beast]

His argument is not sound. He's claiming that women need men less than men need women in equal situations, but all the example he makes aren't equal. You can't compare an incel's loneliness with a virgin woman's loneliness.

Straight males who don't "get" women alot of them become bitter, emotionally disregulated and struggle to function. Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

He said it himself. First, the man can't get women, but the virgin woman can get men if she wants. Second, the virgin woman has a vast social network and support whenever she needs, while the incel man is utterly, completely ALONE. Of course the completely isolated incel man is less functional than the woman surrounded by people (men included) who love and help her.

Why do you think the loser/incel label is exclusively used for males?

Definetly not because incel women are fine and don't complain, which would be more in line with what he's claiming. It's because incel women simply don't exist.

We need them but they dont need us, they can pick us based on a whimsical want rather than a need.

I want to see a woman experience my life for a year, to see how little she needs us and how functional and independent she is. He's confusing them not having to look for us with them not wanting us. There was a thread on 4chan that made the same mistake: he asked "Do women not need men, since they don't complain as much about being alone? All the people I see here complaining about being single are males. Are they mentally stronger if they can endure it?" To which I answered "Do millionaires not need food, since they don't complain about being hungry? I only see the homeless begging for food. Are millionaires mentally stronger if they endure hunger?"

Its not that women are better at handling loneliness, HELL NO its more so that they are better at getting social bonds with other women and on average.

So now we are saying the same thing? But are they better at it, or is it just made easier to them? Either way it doesn't make them not need us. And why do you believe that they only bond with women and not men, and don't have sex?

Women also mog men in all aspects of life (minus physical strength which doesn't matter much, especially in modern Western societies)

I agree with this, in part. I don't think that women are only arbitrarily given advantages just because they are women, I think that they are also biologically advantaged, including in the mental differences (like higher verbal ability and better intrasocial IQ). But that doesn't make them absolutely superior, it's just that they fit better in the current society. You know, judging a fish for climbing trees and all that... they are currently favored hard both arbitrarily (just for being women, as we all know), both biologically, as many incels here don't want to admit, but sadly women can be in average "better" than us in some traits, and it just so happens that those are the traits that lead to success in the school system, in careers...

 

[LOLI BREEDING]

I agree with this, in part. I don't think that women are only arbitrarily given advantages just because they are women, I think that they are also biologically advantaged, including in the mental differences (like higher verbal ability and better intrasocial IQ). But that doesn't make them absolutely superior, it's just that they fit better in the current society. You know, judging a fish for climbing trees and all that... they are currently favored hard both arbitrarily (just for being women, as we all know), both biologically, as many incels here don't want to admit, but sadly women can be in average "better" than us in some traits, and it just so happens that those are the traits that lead to success in the school system, in careers...

yeah when I was young I believed boomer tales about muh education and stem. nobody cares, there are enough jeets and cheap normalfags to fill any role 10x over. the ones getting actually paid are people who know others or deal with management/administration. also the school system is so fucking pathetic, yet holes will just plow through it no questions asked because they are conformists. I think it's intentional. if you think for a sec, you burn the fuck out

 

[flippedroaches14]

I don't need a misandrist, parasitic, looting, slave-driving foid that seek to cuck me and rule over me. I am much happier on my own.

UnIronically true. I used to feel bad about being an incel, but now I realize that even if I had a girlfriend I would hate her. I still want sex of course, and wouldn't mind having someone to love and care for. But im at the point of hating women so much that I just dont want to deal with it, plus maybe it is partly laziness in not wanting to have to deal with another person. Im comfortable alone

 

[ThePornographer]

The only reason this is the case is because we live in a gynocentric society that caters to women, and extracts labor and resources from men, handing it to women and elevating their status in society; women still need men, but the only difference is that now all their needs are taken care of indirectly, while men receive nothing in return. This means they are free to focus on other matters, and the resultant intersexual dynamics are to be expected.

To put is simply, they just don’t need individual men anymore. The system still runs on male labor, male taxes, male infrastructure, and male protection. A woman’s social fulfillment is subsidized by a gynocentric system that cushions her from consequence. That doesn’t mean she’s self-sufficient, only that the dependency has been externalized and collectivized.

This

 

[DreamCoper]

Unfortunate reality

 

[wereq]

UnIronically true. I used to feel bad about being an incel, but now I realize that even if I had a girlfriend I would hate her. I still want sex of course, and wouldn't mind having someone to love and care for. But im at the point of hating women so much that I just dont want to deal with it, plus maybe it is partly laziness in not wanting to have to deal with another person. Im comfortable alone

Women are too demanding, oppressive, and evil to deal with. This is the reality of gender relations today. You can't make something work with people who are as evil, oppressive, and selfish as women.

 

[Sonicfancel]

Unfortunately true.

 

[OverLoner]

Women need me? Since when? Other than strength or reach they really need me for nothing and those two things can be solved with a step ladder or idk two women?

 

[Mohamedömar]

YouTube community post from some black pill doomer:

“The reality is, and the hard truth straight males have to now accept is that men need women more than they need us. They need us more in the sense of working and maintaining the society, but in terms of their own life and social fulfillment they don't need us. Straight males who don't "get" women alot of them become bitter, emotionally disregulated and struggle to function. Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

Why do you think the loser/incel label is exclusively used for males? And with the women now earning their own money, they increasingly move towards independence. Most males strive to be successful for the promise of a woman, but women strive to be successful purely for themselves and their own social gain and materialism. We need them but they dont need us, they can pick us based on a whimsical want rather than a need.

Only very few males can tolerate or thrive in loneliness and isolation without having women or a woman in their life, most without female attention become dysfunctional and rageful.

Its not that women are better at handling loneliness, HELL NO its more so that they are better at getting social bonds with other women and on average aren't as sex dependent as males.

Then this comes back to most men not caring about one another so alot of guys cant invest in each other emotionally like women can with one another (that would be seen as gay). Its a hardpill to swallow but the whole cat lady suffering at 30 thing is cope. Most of us are the ones suffering“

Look, the standards and the type of living in 2025 made the fact that "Men need women more than women need men"
but in the natural life (that got destroyed by freedom), women need men

Men need women more than women need men because women have become whores, they have started working and have taken on more freedom than is permitted. Also they aren't offer anything to men except sex, so they are useless

​

 

[Mohamedömar]

only in cuckciety

Bro you are high IQ

 

[Mohamedömar]

Women need men, men want women

Exactly

 

[Wizardmaxxer]

Then make them need us rather then needing them

 

[FKP]

Virgin women? How many virgin women have you seen?

 

[AegisReflector]

Yes.

Women don't need men as much. Women also mog men in all aspects of life (minus physical strength which doesn't matter much, especially in modern Western societies).

They have everything they need to satisfy themselves, like you've alluded to in the OP

That's part of the reason why the red pill and MGTOW (can't believe that's still a thing) are coping about men not needing women. Everyone knows their BS'ing. It's just the fact that they can't easily attract women.

Doesn't change what you've said, but they don't get to be truly happy just because their life is a thousand times easier though. They measure themselves by the quality of male they lock up. A man is capable of achieving something he is proud of without a woman.

 

[Needle]

"men need women more than women need men" is misleading, he does clarify that its because of social advantages but then the take doesnt make sense anymore

 

[Chacalcel]

YouTube community post from some black pill doomer:

“The reality is, and the hard truth straight males have to now accept is that men need women more than they need us. They need us more in the sense of working and maintaining the society, but in terms of their own life and social fulfillment they don't need us. Straight males who don't "get" women alot of them become bitter, emotionally disregulated and struggle to function. Contrastly a virgin woman can be just fine with her vast network of social relationships/friends and ability to talk about her feelings with anyone.

Why do you think the loser/incel label is exclusively used for males? And with the women now earning their own money, they increasingly move towards independence. Most males strive to be successful for the promise of a woman, but women strive to be successful purely for themselves and their own social gain and materialism. We need them but they dont need us, they can pick us based on a whimsical want rather than a need.

Only very few males can tolerate or thrive in loneliness and isolation without having women or a woman in their life, most without female attention become dysfunctional and rageful.

Its not that women are better at handling loneliness, HELL NO its more so that they are better at getting social bonds with other women and on average aren't as sex dependent as males.

Then this comes back to most men not caring about one another so alot of guys cant invest in each other emotionally like women can with one another (that would be seen as gay). Its a hardpill to swallow but the whole cat lady suffering at 30 thing is cope. Most of us are the ones suffering“

Trvth Nuke. Male friendships don't doubt in betraying you for some pussy. That's why there so much reels about male friendships don't seeing in years, they are busy persuing pussy (directly or indirectly)

 

[littlemanhikicel]

It's true. Foids can get sex easily even if they live alone. While if you are an incel you have to pay for sex or fap. Also foids have better social circles and family support.

 

[Morro]

I don't need a misandrist, parasitic, looting, slave-driving foid that seek to cuck me and rule over me. I am much happier on my own.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Because they are still provided all the privileges of having men in their lives. All of their construction, plumbing, utilities, electricity, gas, and what not are taken care of. In the past, you'd rely on fathers and husbands to build and troubleshoot. Not anymore. Now every boss babe has hordes of slaves at her disposal ready to take care of her every need.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Women also mog men in all aspects of life

They don’t they just mog in sexuality which is yeah 80% of life

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Even physical strength now! I'm seeing more and more women lifting three plates.

View: https://streamable.com/7kf8ac

Don’t cuck out. Average foid can’t go as near as liftinf that

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Women still need men, its just that men have been successfully enslaved by women so there's need for women to reciprocate. All the infrastructure is still developed, run, and maintained by men.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

If it wernt for foids, i swear no man would ever work anymore.

Men are getting quite demotivated nowadays because the pussy is getting taken away from them.

If you take away the pussy of every essential worker, soyciety would collapse in seconds

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

agree with this, in part. I don't think that women are only arbitrarily given advantages just because they are women, I think that they are also biologically advantaged, including in the mental differences (like higher verbal ability and better intrasocial IQ). But that doesn't make them absolutely superior, it's just that they fit better in the current society. You know, judging a fish for climbing trees and all that... they are currently favored hard both arbitrarily (just for being women, as we all know), both biologically, as many incels here don't want to admit, but sadly women can be in average "better" than us in some traits, and it just so happens that those are the traits that lead to success in the school system, in careers..

Never really understood the verbal IQ. Not only i mogger in verbal skills any foid i know but according to studies men can also invent words better than women do