I am talking about online and strictly facially. If you have something else going for you like status or money, then it might be different.
I've ran many tinder experiments. Generally speaking, if you're 4 points above a woman's calibre then you'll probably get with them comfortably and you don't need to fuck below that level. That's when you start having a "good personality" and become funny in their eyes, no matter what you say.
Here's the looks scales I am referring to. For men:
View: https://i.imgur.com/1EpSoNB.jpg
For women:
View: https://i.imgur.com/YlBqElb.png
What this means is, say you take an 8/10 guy for example. Like this person:
At this point, you could get girls AT LEAST of this level (4/10) comfortably, obviously some girls of higher levels will obviously take a liking too:
Now this could change depending on how good a woman is at frauding her face. In which case she could ascend from a 3 to a 6 and demand only 9.5+/10 guys or might not feel satisfied by looks anymore and might demand a guy with high status/money etc.
This is why you see statusmaxxed guys with hot women. These women have thousands of chads in their DMs to the point where they don't care about looks anymore and want something else out of life. Like a millionaire. Or a jacked ogre who they want to get destroyed by.
Now you might wonder. Well I know so and so guy who is a 6/10 or a 7/10 and he can't even get laid with landwhales or ugly women. Again I can answer this since I can relate. I got rated ~7 twice (ethnic) when I posted there and I am a KHHV 21 year old. I have had ZERO proper non-work interaction with real women IRL in the past 5 years. I got baited into a conversation by a 3.5/10 tranny landwhale once so that doesn't count as he is still a man, in my opinion. Any conversations with girls before I was 16 was just because I was a naive bluepiller and would simpmax for a bunch of foids at school and they'd just talk to me like a gay best friend.
Firstly these target women (3/10 or below) are the bottom 5% of women which already makes them few in numbers anyway. Also again, the answer to that is makeup. Their respective 3/10 partners can ascend to 5/10 with makeup and then demand guys of this level who are solid 9s:
This means the bottom 5% of women could get laid with top 0.1% of guys off tinder. And no, I am not joking. I recommend you make a tinder account with an ugly girl yourself and see what happens as long as you don't make it blatantly obvious that it's fake. 9/10 guys are rare and might not even be on Tinder but I can GUARANTEE you will have 7-7.5s EASILY ready for sex within a few hours of making the fake account, depending on how many even exist in your area.
I've ran experiments with Tyler Maher and he's one of my favourite chads because the baseline is established at 5/10. You can fuck average girls at will. No need to ever go below that. You can fuck above average girls with some effort. And so on and so forth.
So realistically, depending on where you lie on the looks ladder you can fuck women 4 points below you depending on how hard they are frauding or if they are frauding at all. Most deformed foids don't bother with makeup. To have a fulfilling sex life you must be ~7.5. How much higher or below that depends on phenotype but regardless you'll probably be able to get laid easily at that point with at least landwhales off tinder, provided you are photomaxxed too. Only chads (8+) can pull of aspie selfies.
TLDR; You have to be 4 points above a particular woman's looks level to be able to fuck them comfortably.
I've ran many tinder experiments. Generally speaking, if you're 4 points above a woman's calibre then you'll probably get with them comfortably and you don't need to fuck below that level. That's when you start having a "good personality" and become funny in their eyes, no matter what you say.
Here's the looks scales I am referring to. For men:
View: https://i.imgur.com/1EpSoNB.jpg
For women:
View: https://i.imgur.com/YlBqElb.png
What this means is, say you take an 8/10 guy for example. Like this person:
At this point, you could get girls AT LEAST of this level (4/10) comfortably, obviously some girls of higher levels will obviously take a liking too:
Now this could change depending on how good a woman is at frauding her face. In which case she could ascend from a 3 to a 6 and demand only 9.5+/10 guys or might not feel satisfied by looks anymore and might demand a guy with high status/money etc.
This is why you see statusmaxxed guys with hot women. These women have thousands of chads in their DMs to the point where they don't care about looks anymore and want something else out of life. Like a millionaire. Or a jacked ogre who they want to get destroyed by.
Now you might wonder. Well I know so and so guy who is a 6/10 or a 7/10 and he can't even get laid with landwhales or ugly women. Again I can answer this since I can relate. I got rated ~7 twice (ethnic) when I posted there and I am a KHHV 21 year old. I have had ZERO proper non-work interaction with real women IRL in the past 5 years. I got baited into a conversation by a 3.5/10 tranny landwhale once so that doesn't count as he is still a man, in my opinion. Any conversations with girls before I was 16 was just because I was a naive bluepiller and would simpmax for a bunch of foids at school and they'd just talk to me like a gay best friend.
Firstly these target women (3/10 or below) are the bottom 5% of women which already makes them few in numbers anyway. Also again, the answer to that is makeup. Their respective 3/10 partners can ascend to 5/10 with makeup and then demand guys of this level who are solid 9s:
This means the bottom 5% of women could get laid with top 0.1% of guys off tinder. And no, I am not joking. I recommend you make a tinder account with an ugly girl yourself and see what happens as long as you don't make it blatantly obvious that it's fake. 9/10 guys are rare and might not even be on Tinder but I can GUARANTEE you will have 7-7.5s EASILY ready for sex within a few hours of making the fake account, depending on how many even exist in your area.
I've ran experiments with Tyler Maher and he's one of my favourite chads because the baseline is established at 5/10. You can fuck average girls at will. No need to ever go below that. You can fuck above average girls with some effort. And so on and so forth.
So realistically, depending on where you lie on the looks ladder you can fuck women 4 points below you depending on how hard they are frauding or if they are frauding at all. Most deformed foids don't bother with makeup. To have a fulfilling sex life you must be ~7.5. How much higher or below that depends on phenotype but regardless you'll probably be able to get laid easily at that point with at least landwhales off tinder, provided you are photomaxxed too. Only chads (8+) can pull of aspie selfies.
TLDR; You have to be 4 points above a particular woman's looks level to be able to fuck them comfortably.
