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Serious Going ER is low IQ

- Ok, let's say prison rape is just a myth created by the (((media))). What about spending your whole life in jail? I think that should be enough of a reason not to kill some random people on the street. Anway, I'm sure everyone knows how going on a killing spree would affect their future thus I was only half-serious with the buttfucking. This wasn't my main point.

- "how do you know they are innocent?" As I said, "a few people would be killed, MOST LIKELY innoccents" (sorry for the typo). So yeah, I can't say with absolute certainty they would be innocents, but let's be real, most people out there are just normies living their own shitty life. To me it doesn't feel right to kill them just because life fucked me over. Yes, they don't care about us, just like I don't care about them. As long as they don't actively harm me, they're fine in my book. By your logic, a Muslim from Syria has every right to kill you because you didn't care when his house was bombed, so why should he care about your life at all?

- Hating us and shutting down our spaces/fucking up our entire life just because we identify as "incels" (which they think is a terrorist group) isn't the same. As I said in another comment, I know there are many people who will hate us no matter what we do, but I believe there are others who might be willing to hear us out if we don't act like a bunch of potential street shooters.
-I think most people know the consequences and if they don't think they can manage prison than obviously they should rope after doing it. You're just stating the obvious here.

-Im not saying we have right to kill them I'm saying we shouldn't care about killing them. I don give a fuck about them so I wont care if they die. Also how can they be innocent if they partake in the social norms that fuck us over.

- They will shut down extremism not talk about redpill, blackpill because that is universal. There is no way to eradicate that. You can't shut down ugly people.


Haha my bad bro I'm a steroidcel and we call high t levels superficial. I didn't know that's what it really ment but sorry for the misunderstanding iKillCucks will never be a fucking cuck
its all good man :feelsokman::feelsokman::feelsokman:
 
At the very least, you shouldn't use a gun if you ER. The discussion will only be on muh gun control
 
Doing ER on feminist or soy liberal marches is morally justified imo
 
Brah a ER mass-shooting is the best version of suicide
 
Didn't know this place was cucked.
Good to know.
 
You would redeem yourself, a final retribution upon society before you can peacefully die. Houellebecq stated in 1994 that going ER was the only option for the incel:
These women you desire so much, you too can possess them. What is is that is most precious about them?
-Their beauty? he suggested.
-It's not their beauty, I can tell you that much, it isn't their vagina either, nor even their love; because all
these desappear with life. And from now on you can possess their life. Launch yourself on a career of murder this very
evening; believe me, my friend, it's the only way still open to you.
 
I’m waiting for day of the rope and hopefully Trump will appoint me chief commanding position within SS service of a concentration camp. This way I can save many incel joos and be star hero in Hollyweird holohoax 2.0 SSpielberg film.
 
You would redeem yourself, a final retribution upon society before you can peacefully die. Houellebecq stated in 1994 that going ER was the only option for the incel:
He also stated latter in his book "Whatever" that "Blood does not change anything."
 
going ER is mega cuck behavior
 
At the very least, you shouldn't use a gun if you ER. The discussion will only be on muh gun control
And what for? In Europe it's almost impossible for a law-abiding citizen to get hands legally on a full-auto AK47 or similars, meanwhile terrorists use them to murder innocent people.
 
Ainan Celeste Cawley level IQ
 
Brah a ER mass-shooting is the best version of suicide

Not many people have the guts to pursue that. You'd have to seriously be mentally tormented to pursue an action like that. Makes me think how bad ER was seriously hurting
 
Well said, I think only low IQ people (and very damaged ones) go ER anyway tbh. Which is a good thing because attacks would be much more sophisticated and effective if capable people were doing them... given my current technical knowledge I could program a bunch of drones with cameras and GPS to first go to a public location, then to run face recognition, and then use a neural network to check if the recognized face is chad tier or not, following by automatically shooting them, I reckon with about $10k I could make at least 30, guns aren't even a problem, I could literally machine them myself.
 
Serial killing > ER
 
it doesn't matter if no one ever goes ER ever again, people hate us and are determined to misrepresent us, that gate won't ever be closed so there is no point trying to suck up to normies by disavowing ercels.

people have always hated and mocked awkward virgin men, ER just gave them an excuse for their bigotry.

I understand guys who go ER, it's a strikeback against society that has oppressed us, it doesn't have to have any relevance beyond that.

at the end of the day normies know they can do nothing to stop us, are they going to classify virgin males as a terrorist group?

even the most cucked country on earth isn't going to jail male virgins, as long as you make no direct threats or do anything stupid they have no case they can use against you.

I made a post about this once - https://incels.is/threads/pleadcels...-are-a-detriment-to-the-incel-movement.44735/

You basically made my entire response to this thread for me, i'll still add my piece to it

@Agent_Coper (just realized your name fits you a lot)

1. ER doesn't need to make a difference, its simply just revenge, life fuel, enjoying the misery of your enemies suffering, the intention isn't to make a change in society, you're coping if you think just "spreading the black pill" is going to make a difference, if you spread an ideology that nobody can identify with, or will agree with and support, then the end result will be as if you didn't spread it at all, society will never willingly adopt the black pill, they will have to be forced to take it in some manner.

Like refmd said - "it doesn't have to have any relevance beyond that"

2. Your argument that ER just makes them hate us more is pointless, so what, they already hate us, they don't give a fuck what we think or have to say, and they can't fucking do shit, what are they going to do, lock up all average looking and below average looking males? JFL. I don't think you get how large the scope of characteristics is for profiling such a large group as incels, its impossible to properly track our actions and profile us, that "normal looking" guy you know could consider himself incel and be planning a shooting, the pilot of a plane could consider himself incel and crash some plane heading for cancun during spring break, etc, etc. They can't do shit, their only options are just to wait for the next ER and hope not to die.

This thread is whats low IQ
 
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Why do you care about what normies and cucks think of us? Do you really think the reason they hate us isn't because of our status as low-value ugly males? Do you think all this hatred of incels comes from the fact that one in a million virgin males go ER, or the fact that society has an innate hatred for male losers?

When we were bullied in schools, rejected in the streets, and vilified in movies, the identity of incel did not exist. Yet, people for decades have been casting ugly virgin males as losers, psychopaths, troublemakers and so forth. Look at for example Redpill forums, they have a similar level of hatred for women as we do, many of their forums also encourage violence against women, yet you don't see entire subreddits created to go after them. Why? Because redpillers are usually normies or Chadlites while incels are ugly low-value males that women feel innately repulsed by.

I have no plans to go ER, but I am not going to police other incels about it. The fact is that even if no incel ever went ER again, they would still hate us just as much as they hate us now. And even then, you will still have virgin males who go ER (e.g school shooters) who do not identify as incels, but will get lumped in with us anyway, because like I said, society hates us because we're ugly loser males, and will lump all ugly loser males in as one.

Movie and TV show villains are always physically uglier in some way, unless they are an antihero, in which case they are just an attractive looking villain but that makes them better somehow.
 
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Going ER is rather high IQ if it's done in the right places like N8clubs, swinger clubs and others places packed with foids and cucks.

It's only a fantasy that many of us have, but none of us will do it since we're too cowards for that.

Or you have access to weapons. If I gave up everything here in my city at one time has a concentration of a party in a parking lot, just climb on a hill and look down. Getting weapons in Brazil is not very easy, even heavier for this ER is US thing!
 
I hoped this thread would die because the attention it generated already bothers me (honestly, if I knew it would get so many replies I'd have took more time to construct the OP, it kinda embarrasses me now with those typos and grammar errors tbhtbhngl), but it got bumped so oh well...

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It doesn't surprise me that much that this thread was featured on IT (even though it wasn't my intention at all, believe it or not), but the comments of the OP there are fucking hilarious.

JFL at this guy/girl implying I'm :soy: for thinking that going ER isn't the right thing to do. This just proves my point: there are people out there who really, REALLY, REALLY want us to go ER just to be able to talk shit about us, treat us like monsters etc. Now this particular IT member realized there are many incels here who don't support the killing of innocents thus he/she is mad because it makes us a bit more human than ideal.

I don't know where the "hypocrisy" accusation is coming from tbh. I don't call you soy :soy: for condemning mass murder but for many other reasons, so this is just some cheap strawmanning bullshit.

And the best part:

"Lol they know they are wrong and weak at the end of it. You know I pretty much would have respect for them if they did stick their hard stance, their guns"

Idiot, what are you talking about? We are weak for not shooting you up? (btw, this really proves what you're saying @BlkPillPres, I'll give you that) I didn't stick to my gun because I've never had one or wanted one. Again, what are you talking about?

But I have great news though, because if you have read this thread carefully, you would know there are many incels here who don't agree with what I'm saying. I and some other members might be weak according to you, but there are more than enough worthy of your respect. :feelsokman: It's quite funny though how your sub always say "women aren't all the same you know!!!!", but now you act like we are some collective hivemind just because the first 3 posters agreed with my OP. Talk about hypocrisy.

As for the NIN avatar, I'm gonna keep that for a while. You can either stick it out OR you can stop stalking us and go away. But you should stop listening to NIN anyway, because Trent is a indeed a very "creepy" and misogynistic guy. :feelshaha:

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@BlkPillPres, I read your post and your thread. I'm not gonna reply because I don't have anything else to add, I already said what I wanted to say, and it's clear we won't come to an agreement anytime soon. Let this thread just die in peace.
 
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Let this thread just die in peace.

OK but i'll finish with this JFL (the post from my thread). Peacecels/Pleadcels need to stop with this BS, normies don't care, our suffering is to their benefit, you are underestemating them and treating them like fools by speaking as if they just don't understand our plight and we can convince them with words, you are coping, they are full aware and completely understand our plight, they just don't care and consider that plight to be a joke and not worth caring about.

Every once in a while I see a post like what @Limerencel did here: https://incels.is/threads/if-any-guests-are-reading-this.44577/

Know that we too are human. We just want to be loved for who we are. Our feelings of despair did not come out of the blue. I'm happy that you have never felt this way, but I wish you'd have more sympathy for our condition. You mock us, and belittle us everywhere. Instead, a more effective approach would be to ask us what made us feel like this. There is often a history that lead us to where we are now. If you heard our personal stories, perhaps you'd find a place in your heart that would be more sympathetic towards our condition, which is after all involuntary. Thank you.

Its annoying and pointless and immediately makes me think you're blue pilled, because like many say in these threads in their own way:

Lol at thinking people who spend their whole lives mocking male virgins, short men, etc. have any empathy.

Most people have political correctness, nothing more. If you transported most of them back a century, they'd be the racists or homophobes or whatever else they preach against nowadays. Fuck them. At least us hateful incels don't turn around and pretend like we're nice.

Here's the truth that pleadcels need to get through their thick fucking pathetic skulls.

Normies aren't fucking idiots, they are quite aware of our plight and they simply don't care, guess what normies expect us to do...... wait for it...... its really obvious and simple............... DO WITHOUT

This isn't rocket science, this is literally what normies expect - "You've never experienced sex...... oh well too bad, we can't force people to choose you, so you just DO WITHOUT"

If you seriously think normies are just misinformed or need an emotional appeal to understand and want to help us you are an idiot.

So lets finalize this thing with the two primary reasons why pleadcels are naive blue pilled idiots wasting their time:

1. OUR SUFFERING BENEFITS THEIR LIVES IN VARIOUS WAYS

1.1 - Schadenfreude - They get off on our suffering and feeling better than us

1.2 - Ego Boost - Just knowing that they can get sex and there's a group of people denied that pleasure makes them rate themselves higher, and everyone else too with do the same

1.3 - Better By Comparison - This is a benefit to males, the men who mog us look even better by comparison when were virgins who can't get laid

1.4 - Less Competition - Again one for above average males and normie males, they can "fuck down" every now and then with women that would under legitimate circumstances be dating us since they're our looks matches

1.5 - Beta Filter - This is the benefit to women, we've been relegated to an underclass of males that women no longer have to deal with, society has basically done part of their job and filtered us out so they don't even have to bother rejecting us, we live an existence of perpetual rejection and fear of rejection so we even stop trying

1.6 - BetaBux - This benefits women for obvious reasons, we become their last ditch meal ticket after they've thoroughly enjoyed riding the cock carousel

1.7 Wagecuck/Drone - Men who are sexually starved are more motivated to try and "work hard", to counteract this though incels created "neetdom" as an alternative but its a shitty alternative and the majority of males who struggle to or can't get laid at all still end up becoming a drone for society, which benefits society as a whole since they have a wage slave to be just another cog in the wheel and keep the gynocracy chugging along.

ETC ETC ETC

2. NORMIES SEE US AN ENTITLED AND SIMPLY EXPECT US TO "DO WITHOUT"

This one is pretty straight forward, no explanation necessary, its obvious this is what they think, they literally keep saying it, this is why I think pleadcels are not only annoying, and make us look even more pathetic, but they are complete fucking idiots to not see whats right in front of them.

Like @WarriorSkull said:
Jesus christ, even I want to bully you now.

Going into fetal position (trying to appear "non-threatening") doesn't work with normies, they are worse than animals, take for example a bear, if you go into fetal position against a grizzly bear and "play dead", it will stop seeing you as a threat and leave you alone after tossing you around a bit. Normies however won't let up, they enjoy seeing you at your weakest, on top of being a pathetic loser now you're even begging, get out the popcorn its time for some quality schadenfreude lol. They hate when we celebrate their deaths in mass killings because it is a reversal of the usual power dynamic, now it is them pleading, now it is them begging for understanding, now it is them in fear of their current state of life, it pops the bubble of their comfy worry free lives.

To them WERE BEING UNREASONABLE. You trying to plead with them to help us get laid or get relationships, is viewed by them as a random guy walking up to them and asking to borrow their car for a year, we might as well ask for that as far as they're concerned, were that unreasonable to them, because to them its like "just do without bro, sex isn't everything, no biggie".

Let me also add an important point here that I can't stress enough: ITS VIOLENCE THAT'S GOING TO HELP US GET WHAT WE WANT

ER's are our best tool, we make our suffering their suffering so then it becomes a "societal problem" instead of just a "personal problem"

Normies need to be convinced that not helping us is to their detriment in order to help, to do that we have to make our plight THEIR PLIGHT, that's where the mass killings and "terrorism" comes in, ITS WHAT BROUGHT THEIR ATTENTION TO OUR PLIGHT, AND ITS WHATS GOING TO FORCE THEM TO HELP US SOLVE IT.

We need to make inceldom A SOCIETAL PROBLEM

As long as normies can tell us - "Can't get laid, well that sounds like a "YOU PROBLEM" now does it lol, just be yourself and have a nice personality bro"

Then our laws and lives are never going to change.

YES THIS NEEDS TO BE MOVEMENT

Stop it with the "were not a movement" BS, because ironically by claiming were not a movement you're validating EXACTLY WHY THEY HAVE NO REASON TO LISTEN TO US, if were just a bunch of random loser fucks then were nothing, if were a "movement" then that gives us somewhat of a "political presence". Normies subscribe primarily to leftist culture, and that culture responds to the demands OF GROUPS (MOVEMENTS) and NOT INDIVIDUALS, as a collective of individuals OUR WORDS MEAN NOTHING

YES WE NEED TO HAVE GOALS

At the top of that list should be at least the decriminalization of prostitution with the end goal being wholesale legalization of prostitution, world wide if possible. Truth is we'd only need the major countries (like America) to accept it and then all the other countries over the years would follow in their footsteps.

Want to change this world for the better of incels, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A "PERSONAL PROBLEM" INTO A "SOCIETAL PROBLEM"

Women did the same shit with feminism as a movement, they appealed to men by saying shit like - "were your mothers, sisters, etc, you have to help us". They made the personal problems in their lives a societal problem that had to be dealt with, we however can't use the "pleading strategy" because society hates us and were men, nobody cares about us, we have to use violence. Were basically going to have to BLACKMAIL SOCIETY INTO HELPING US.

Get with the program or just STFU AND STOP IMPEDING OUR PROGRESS

@jackbud interview with the media is my best example of pleadcels/pacifistcels impeding our "movement" and making us look pathetic, guy literally said he's going to ban misognists, and invite women into incel communities. Then said he's "leaving incels" making us his springboard into "normiedom" by basically asserting publicly - "I'm no longer one of these evil sexist losers". We became his tool for ascension.



You guys are really no different than him
 
An attempt to pacify the incel movement is a path that has already shown to be disastrous for those in the manosphere, and by condemning those who go ER we are going against the original idea of the incel movement to strike back against our oppressors.

The MRA movement in its heyday was almost as misogynistic as the incel movements, along with many other popular redpilled subsections. Look at the MRA movement now, they decided to pacify and be more accepting of females and what have they done so far? The answer is: nothing. Ugly males will never be accepted by society, and if they choose to go ER I won't detest it for it has been done in the name of the individual who deemed it necessary.

Let it be known that the black pill ideology should not be reduced to ugly men seeking society's help, for history has shown time and time again that we shall get no such help. Let it be known that we will not sit down passively as we are looked over and fade away, but rather as a force that society has to deal with until it fixes the problem.
 
Let it be known that the black pill ideology should not be reduced to ugly men seeking society's help

I would stop identifying as a black piller, if this became the norm, it is truly pathetic, and illogical, because experience has shown us that we won't get help anyways, because our suffering is to the benefit of society as a whole, they all think we should "take one for the team".
 
Well said, I think only low IQ people (and very damaged ones) go ER anyway tbh. Which is a good thing because attacks would be much more sophisticated and effective if capable people were doing them
:feelshmm:
 
Marc Lepine specifically targeted feminists at his campus.
 
I like it when people go ER because we get coverage and more incels join. It's also a good way for some Chads and Stacies to get their lives of pure bliss taken away from them.
 

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