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God is real

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Jorge Luis Borges on mysticism(chapter: do you believe in god? Interview with Borges):

Do you believe in God?

If by God we imply a single personality or a trinity, some sort of supernatural man, a judge of our actions and thoughts, I don't believe in that being. On the other hand, if by God we mean a moral or mental purpose in the universe, I certainly believe in Him. Regarding the problem of personal immortal-ity, which Unamuno and other writers have connected to the notion of God, I don't believe in it, nor do I desire to be personally immortal.


That there is an order in the universe, a system of periodic recurrences and a general evolution, seems to me obvious. No less undeniable to me is the existence of a moral law, of an intimate feeling of having acted well or badly in each occasion.

Do you mean, essentially, that all this would prove the existence of God, or that he has been the creator, the beginning and end of everything?

I don't know if God is in the beginning of the cosmic process, but possibly he's at the end. God is perhaps an aspiration toward which the universe is predisposed.

And why do you believe in God in this way?

I believe intuitively and, besides, it would be despairing not to believe. If we presume there is a perfect and omnipotent being at the beginning of universal history, and we presume also that he created the world, then we cannot understand why pain and evil exist. If we assume, on the other hand, a God who is in the process of creation as the cosmos or our individual destiny evolves, in that particular form we can believe in Him, that is, as an evolving passage toward perfectibility.

And how do you apply your belief to the practices of everyday life?

I try to apply it. Within the constraints of the life to which I am conditioned, I do the best I can. Besides, I do not demand of my ambition's limits more than what the natural process of my own evolution can give me. I try to be a good man, but I don't always succeed.
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What are y’alls thoughts?
 
The only real god is...
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Blasphemous tbh.
Real God is divine.
The Holy Trinity should be followed here.
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Jesus is Lord and King forever and ever !!
 
Too much intangible spiritism leads to worshipping demons.
 
Presupposing that there is an objective morality said description of God is correct. That being said "objective morality" is a presupposition and has not been proven as of yet, therefore this is a relational argument at best. So if you are agnostic or not religious and believe in objective morality you might define god as such.

That being said there isn't any sufficient proof (other that one money pointing at the sun and saying "he told me that you need to give me your shit") for objective morality therefore no, I do not think that this is proof of God. Objective morality per definition needs a prime mover, some metaphysical source, so your whole argument is just circular reasoning.
 
Too much intangible spiritism leads to worshipping demons.
A phenomenon we can witness today. Numerology, channeling, idol worship. It is commonly done these days. People have no religion. No god. They have turned to demons. They encourage the youth to repeat their mistakes in order for them to not be alone in their falsehoods.
 
A phenomenon we can witness today. Numerology, channeling, idol worship. It is commonly done these days. People have no religion. No god. They have turned to demons. They encourage the youth to repeat their mistakes in order for them to not be alone in their falsehoods.
:yes: :yes: :yes:And all the self love inner spirituality is satanism, calling themselves gods and kings.
 
:yes: :yes: :yes:And all the self love inner spirituality is satanism, calling themselves gods and kings.
Their basis for this new age cult is Indian paganism. They took the basis and combined it with western religions. This is where you get the people who make videos on summoning spirits or channeling dead children. This is funded by the elite. The elite themself published a book about it. 'The secret' is the name.


Its about how manifestation works. An idea based on fantasies. They have appropriated quotes from scientists too. Albert Einsteins

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Is the most notorious quote.

He never said this. There is no proof to suggest he ever said this. The elite has convinced the average person in believing in fantasies. They laugh at us behind the curtain.
 
Their basis for this new age cult is Indian paganism. They took the basis and combined it with western religions. This is where you get the people who make videos on summoning spirits or channeling dead children. This is funded by the elite. The elite themself published a book about it. 'The secret' is the name.


Its about how manifestation works. An idea based on fantasies. They have appropriated quotes from scientists too. Albert Einsteins

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Is the most notorious quote.

He never said this. There is no proof to suggest he ever said this. The elite has convinced the average person in believing in fantasies. They laugh at us behind the curtain.
Very interesting and true.
 
God is not a Trinity. The bible doesn't even teach that idea.
You are correct. The Bible does not mention the Holy Trinity.
God is divine, however the church argues who God is.
 
Their basis for this new age cult is Indian paganism. They took the basis and combined it with western religions. This is where you get the people who make videos on summoning spirits or channeling dead children. This is funded by the elite. The elite themself published a book about it. 'The secret' is the name.


Its about how manifestation works. An idea based on fantasies. They have appropriated quotes from scientists too. Albert Einsteins

View attachment 1323177

Is the most notorious quote.

He never said this. There is no proof to suggest he ever said this. The elite has convinced the average person in believing in fantasies. They laugh at us behind the curtain.
Aka new age movement beliefs. Who is behind the new age movement? Jesuits. Jesuits are also behind the illuminati, C.F.R., international bankers, the mafia(criminal arm of the vatican), club of rome, the opus dei, and more…
 
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Presupposing that there is an objective morality said description of God is correct. That being said "objective morality" is a presupposition and has not been proven as of yet, therefore this is a relational argument at best. So if you are agnostic or not religious and believe in objective morality you might define god as such.

That being said there isn't any sufficient proof (other that one money pointing at the sun and saying "he told me that you need to give me your shit") for objective morality therefore no, I do not think that this is proof of God. Objective morality per definition needs a prime mover, some metaphysical source, so your whole argument is just circular reasoning.
Ok:feelsokman:
 
Presupposing that there is an objective morality said description of God is correct. That being said "objective morality" is a presupposition and has not been proven as of yet, therefore this is a relational argument at best. So if you are agnostic or not religious and believe in objective morality you might define god as such.

That being said there isn't any sufficient proof (other that one money pointing at the sun and saying "he told me that you need to give me your shit") for objective morality therefore no, I do not think that this is proof of God. Objective morality per definition needs a prime mover, some metaphysical source, so your whole argument is just circular reasoning.

He mentioned "the intimate feeling of having acted well or bad in each occasion". Is that not proof of at least some sense of an objective morality?

I personally think there's a chance it could exist in that form, but it's difficult to tell with so little information. From an universal standpoint, morality doesn't make much sense outside the human reality. Most living beings must kill to remain alive. The system(universe) basically tells us: i demand you to make others suffer for your own good, yet we all know killing is "bad".

My personal opinion: there is some sort of "morality" check in this system that we live in, but it has very little in common with what we call morality. It checks any sort of action, including thoughts(and those might be even more important than the actions themselves), and measures them to it's own standards of what constitutes high level and low level energy, and grants us a reflection of that. If you insist on low level energy, it will punish you with low level results to force you to climb the evolutionary ladder. An all encompassing evolutionary check.
 
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Well because morality is dependent on his personal feelings that makes it per definition subjective. If he were to simply not live then his whole moral system would disappear because it is contingent upon his perspective and analysis.
From an universal standpoint, morality doesn't make much sense outside the human reality
That is why objective morality is not a thing. At the very least morality is contingent upon humanity, religious people like to cope with that by saying that God is infallible and therefore his morality must be objective, which is obviously wrong.
yet we all know killing is "bad"
I disagree with that, a lot of people also do. fact of the matter is that nothing is good or bad, that is the default position (moral antirealism), if you disagree you need to come up with some proof.
 
Dnrd. Agree with the title tho.
 

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