Gladiator (2000) is a proto-woke propaganda movie

[Creosote]

I recently rewatched Gladiator and honestly, the more I think about it, the more I see it as a platform for jewish propaganda and subtle subversion of traditional values. Maximus is the typical slave morality hero, humble, loyal, and believes in ideals like “duty” and “justice,” but doesn’t want power. The movie treats this as noble, but it’s really just glorification of weakness.

There is also race-mixing propaganda. Maximus’s family is clearly nonwhite, they look like a modern diversity insert. Juba is the classic “magical nigger” archetype, the selfless spiritual wise guy. Marcus Aurelius is a cuck and chad-worshiper who wants to restore democracy (JFL) and betrays his own son by naming Maximus as successor. Meanwhile, Commodus is treated like a cartoon villain, when from a realistic political view, his actions were pretty based.

So yeah, Gladiator looks like a good movie on the surface, but underneath, it’s proto-woke moral cuck propaganda. ''Power is bad, ambition is bad, niggers are good, race mixing is good''. That’s the real message.

 

[SuperKanga.Belgrade]

Everything is zog and gay

 

[Emba]

Nice swords tho

 

[Dr. Autismo]

plenty of media before the 2000s was woke if you look into it

 

[ToBurble&Pine]

 

[Creosote]

plenty of media before the 2000s was woke if you look into it

Yeah, normies just didn’t notice it because it was subtle and wrapped in good storytelling.

 

[D. B. Gooner]

joaquin phoenix is so good in this movie

 

[Dr. Autismo]

Yeah, normies just didn’t notice it because it was subtle and wrapped in good storytelling.

sometimes, it was less obvious and subtle.

the xmen was pro-tolerance propaganda with professor x and magneto standing in for MLK and Malcom x.

sometimes it was more obvious, like whites creating nigger mcs for shows, movies, comics and games.
spawn is a nigger, but was created by a white cucknadian.

 

[ilieknothing]

niggers are good,

Why are niggers not good? They cause havoc to soyciety and rape foids. As long as they don’t steal from me

 

[Manlet_cel]

Is this Marcus ? they turned my boy into soylent cuck

 

[Creosote]

Why are niggers not good? They cause havoc to soyciety and rape foids.

How is that a good thing? I don't want to be murdered by some nigger or have my family members raped by them.

 

[Regenerator]

"Anti woke" People just want to go back to the more subtle propaganda from the 60s-2000s

 

[Creosote]

"Anti woke" People just want to go back to the more subtle propaganda from the 60s-2000s

 

[Regenerator]

They constantly glorify the 90s which proves this.

 

[Creosote]

They constantly glorify the 90s which proves this.

It’s ironic because in the 90s, the wokeness in Hollywood movies started getting more obvious. Jurassic Park and The Green Mile are good examples.

 

[Regenerator]

It’s ironic because in the 90s, the wokeness in Hollywood movies started getting more obvious. Jurassic Park and The Green Mile are good examples.

90s TV constantly promoted homosexuality too. Black pilled (Devon Stack) Has hour long streams talking about it.

 

[SmhChan]

It’s ironic because in the 90s, the wokeness in Hollywood movies started getting more obvious. Jurassic Park and The Green Mile are good examples.

The Green Mile?

 

[SmhChan]

There is also race-mixing propaganda. Maximus’s family is clearly nonwhite, they look like a modern diversity insert.

Romans weren't exactly white, and Maximus' family was Spanish. So, I hardly see any 'propaganda.'

 

[justuseless]

Maximus is the typical slave morality hero, humble, loyal, and believes in ideals like “duty” and “justice,” but doesn’t want power. The movie treats this as noble, but it’s really just glorification of weakness.

Nothing woke about this. Those are all pre-modern virtues that were ingrained and celebrated in Roman society.

 

[Creosote]

Romans weren't exactly white, and Maximus' family was Spanish. So, I hardly see any 'propaganda.'

If Romans and Spaniards were not white, then why is Maximus, a Spaniard, played by a white actor? You cannot claim his nonwhite family is historically accurate while Maximus and the other Roman characters look white. Jewliwood don't cast like that by chance. This was a deliberate choice to push race- mixing propaganda.

Nothing woke about this. Those are all pre-modern virtues that were ingrained and celebrated in Roman society.

Exactly pre-modern, not Roman. Roman society celebrated power, glory, and conquest, not the humble, justice-loving cuck that Maximus embodies. His refusal of power is not a Roman virtue, it is a Christian one.

 

[suicidecase]

Note how they make the lead handsome and the baddie kind of ugly.

 

[Castaway]

Nothing woke about this. Those are all pre-modern virtues that were ingrained and celebrated in Roman society.

They were not. The Romans were obsessed with status and being perceived as strong and despised any sign of weakness or humility. They enjoyed tormenting those they considered weak, such as Christians.

The idea that people should feel compassion for the weak and disadvantaged comes from Christianity.

 

[justuseless]

Exactly pre-modern, not Roman. Roman society celebrated power, glory, and conquest, not the humble, justice-loving cuck that Maximus embodies. His refusal of power is not a Roman virtue, it is a Christian one.

Pre modern = anything before 1500s

Justice and humility were roman ideals long before Christianity entered the scene.

Power wasn't celebrated in and of itself. It was only considered a good thing if it was in service of Rome. The romans weren't oriental despots.

As in most societies the ideal was seldom realised but it didn't stop people seeing it as praiseworthy.

 

[Riinku]

Not surprised tbh when Hollywood is ran by jews since time inmemorial.

 

[justuseless]

They were not. The Romans were obsessed with status and being perceived as strong and despised any sign of weakness or humility. They enjoyed tormenting those they considered weak, such as Christians.
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The idea that people should feel compassion for the weak and disadvantaged comes from Christianity.

True for roman elites but this has nothing to do with Maximus refusing power which comes from strength and not weakness.

Christian persecution is also exaggerated by later christian writers. Likely none of them were killed in the Colosseum. In the 13 or so total years they were persecuted (for causing public disorder) many roman interrogators went out of their way to try and save them but the retards insisted on being martyrs.

 

[Creosote]

Justice and humility were roman ideals long before Christianity entered the scene.

Justice was a Roman virtue, yes but it referred to law, order, and hierarchy. Humility, however was not a celebrated Roman virtue. The Roman believed in strength and honor, not servile humility. Humilitas was closer to "low status" or "weakness" in Latin.

Power wasn't celebrated in and of itself. It was only considered a good thing if it was in service of Rome.

Sure, Romans valued service to the state, but they absolutely celebrated personal glory, status and dominance.

The romans weren't oriental despots.

Irrelevant.

As in most societies the ideal was seldom realised but it didn't stop people seeing it as praiseworthy.

In Rome, the ideal was about being strong through service, honor, and achievement, not being a humble, passive cuck who avoids power like Maximus.


Commodus offered him a way out, but Maximus chose death over power. He effectively sacrificed his family just to stay morally pure. That’s not Roman virtue, it’s Christian slave morality.

 

[justuseless]

Justice was a Roman virtue, yes but it referred to law, order, and hierarchy.

Bit silly to suggest a roman couldn't have a personal sense of justice

Humility, however was not a celebrated Roman virtue. The Roman believed in strength and honor, not servile humility. Humilitas was closer to "low status" or "weakness" in Latin.

He didnt like Commodus and so refused to serve him. That's the opposite of servility.

Sure, Romans valued service to the state, but they absolutely celebrated personal glory, status and dominance.

Tyrants usually ended up assassinated and lambasted in history books. Stoicism which was popular at that time was against self aggrandisement. Christianity itself was heavily influenced by stoicism.

In Rome, the ideal was about being strong through service, honor, and achievement, not being a humble, passive cuck who avoids power like Maximus.

Power by serving the res publica and not seeking personal gain was virtuous. If refusal to serve an emperor was un-roman then there would never have been civil strife. Yet roman history is filled with examples to the contrary. Serving the ruler unconditionally is closer to christian ideals than Roman ones.

Commodus offered him a way out, but Maximus chose death over power. He effectively sacrificed his family just to stay morally pure. That’s not Roman virtue, it’s Christian slave morality.

There's no reason to believe he knew he'd be condemned or his family would be killed.

 

[Creosote]

Bit silly to suggest a roman couldn't have a personal sense of justice

He didnt like Commodus and so refused to serve him. That's the opposite of servility.

Tyrants usually ended up assassinated and lambasted in history books. Stoicism which was popular at that time was against self aggrandisement. Christianity itself was heavily influenced by stoicism.

Power by serving the res publica and not seeking personal gain was virtuous. If refusal to serve an emperor was un-roman then there would never have been civil strife. Yet roman history is filled with examples to the contrary. Serving the ruler unconditionally is closer to christian ideals than Roman ones.

There's no reason to believe he knew he'd be condemned or his family would be killed.

My point is that Maximus refuses power entirely, even when given the chance to fix Rome. That’s not how Romans thought.

Also, saying Maximus “didn’t know” he’d be condemned is silly. He was a top Roman general, he knew full well that refusing to recognize a new emperor was open treason.

 

[justuseless]

My point is that Maximus refuses power entirely, even when given the chance to fix Rome. That’s not how Romans thought.
Also, saying Maximus “didn’t know” he’d be condemned is silly. He was a top Roman general, he knew full well that refusing to recognize a new emperor was open treason.

His disdain for Commodus probably outweighed his sense of res republica. Maybe he felt rome was beyond saving. Maybe he intended to rebel. Maybe he was just overwhelmed emotionally in the moment. Who knows. That whole scene of commodus coming up and asking for allegiance is unrealistic but its nothing to do with christianity or woke. Its just cheesy anachronistic hollywood dramatisation.