Gender roles are a plague to society and to all men.

[kevkon]

I know being against traditional gender roles can be perceived as a feminist adjacent take but my reasoning is far different.

Gender roles or “chivalry” only serve to put men down while raising women up. It implies that women have some type of greater inherent value then men and that men must put them on a pedestal and worship them, treat them like some type of “reward” or “prize” the idea that we men are expected to be “protectors” and “providers” to provide for them financially, pay for their food, pay their bills, hold the door for them, protect and defend them, buy them gifts, kiss their ass essentially. When the titanic was sinking every single woman survived and safely made it to life boats while all the men died trying to save them. And for what? Because they were born with a vagina and we were born with a dick???? So if you come out of the womb with a certain set of chromosomes you automatically get the privilege of playing life on easy mode while contributing nothing???

I challenge anyone to answer this question, what would be one single equivalent duty or obligation that women have to men pertaining to the titanic life boat point? I mean seriously what the hell do they do for US in return? Nothing. Also the fact that women are exempt from the draft, if my country went to war men would be forced to go fight and die while they stay at home watching Netflix and eating DoorDash. We are literally expected to DIE for these ungrateful entitled scumbags. This further proves my point that society treats men like they are expendable tools while women are seen as some special important fragile thing to “protect”. Men are expected to serve women while women are expected to do nothing but “receive” they just take take take take, and NEVER give. The worst part is that nobody finds anything wrong with this and finds it normal but if you dare reverse the genders then everyone gasps and your the bad guy. It’s the very definition of entitlement.

The thesis statement here is that men and women at the very least should have equal responsibilities and should both be held to the same standards. Feminists can’t claim to desire equal rights while neglecting equal responsibilities, duties and obligations. You can’t have it both ways.

 

[Last2025cel]

High IQ post

 

[Last2025cel]

When the titanic was sinking every single woman survived and safely made it to life boats while all the men died trying to save them.

Holy shit, that's brutal. I didn't know about that.

 

[Moth]

 

[kevkon]

High IQ post

High IQ reply

 

[Aein_the_Nihilist]

It's mostly unfair because women are now allowed to step out of their gender roles, while men are still expected to provide and protect.

We basically have all the responsbility while none of the positives

 

[Takuji Mamiya]

Agreed.
I think people miss the nuance.
Not holding up traditional masculinity doesn’t mean becoming a femboy, it just means not putting up with the foid praise.

 

[Takuji Mamiya]

It's mostly unfair because women are now allowed to step out of their gender roles, while men are still expected to provide and protect.

We basically have all the responsbility while none of the positives

Yep.
We’re still expected to kiss women’s ass while foids get to do whatever they want.

I don’t know how they turned breaking out of masculinity into wearing skirts and gay shit.

 

[luciferiancel]

Pretentious subversive post. There's nothing wrong with the concept of gender roles, but how they are applied, and under which circumstances

 

[hikkicel]

It's mostly unfair because women are now allowed to step out of their gender roles, while men are still expected to provide and protect.

We basically have all the responsbility while none of the positives

 

[kevkon]

Pretentious subversive post. There's nothing wrong with the concept of gender roles, but how they are applied, and under which circumstances

The problem is that men are expected to strictly adhere to their gender roles while women get encouraged and praised for doing the opposite and stepping outside of them. For gender roles to actually make sense then either both genders would have to strictly adhere to them or bother genders would have to have the option to step outside of them, but the issue arises when you have one gender that’s able to disregard their roles and do whatever they want while the other gender is expected not to. It defeats the entire purpose of the concept.

 

[cathuluelitist]

Chivalry and love are both foid worship

 

[Sir Silentium]

Naturally we have our own roles. With men being providers and women being nurturers/caregivers/etc.
Now women have also pushed for feminism and to give up their role, and take up the mans role.

But we had the roles for a reason, to do what our genders are naturally designed and capable of doing, so of course these women aren't going to be able to do mans roles, and if they try are just gong to be a burden on society.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

I know being against traditional gender roles can be perceived as a feminist adjacent take but my reasoning is far different.

Gender roles or “chivalry” only serve to put men down while raising women up. It implies that women have some type of greater inherent value then men and that men must put them on a pedestal and worship them, treat them like some type of “reward” or “prize” the idea that we men are expected to be “protectors” and “providers” to provide for them financially, pay for their food, pay their bills, hold the door for them, protect and defend them, buy them gifts, kiss their ass essentially. When the titanic was sinking every single woman survived and safely made it to life boats while all the men died trying to save them. And for what? Because they were born with a vagina and we were born with a dick???? So if you come out of the womb with a certain set of chromosomes you automatically get the privilege of playing life on easy mode while contributing nothing???

I challenge anyone to answer this question, what would be one single equivalent duty or obligation that women have to men pertaining to the titanic life boat point? I mean seriously what the hell do they do for US in return? Nothing. Also the fact that women are exempt from the draft, if my country went to war men would be forced to go fight and die while they stay at home watching Netflix and eating DoorDash. We are literally expected to DIE for these ungrateful entitled scumbags. This further proves my point that society treats men like they are expendable tools while women are seen as some special important fragile thing to “protect”. Men are expected to serve women while women are expected to do nothing but “receive” they just take take take take, and NEVER give. The worst part is that nobody finds anything wrong with this and finds it normal but if you dare reverse the genders then everyone gasps and your the bad guy. It’s the very definition of entitlement.

The thesis statement here is that men and women at the very least should have equal responsibilities and should both be held to the same standards. Feminists can’t claim to desire equal rights while neglecting equal responsibilities, duties and obligations. You can’t have it both ways.

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

 

[FoidsEnshittifyAll]

Pretentious subversive post. There's nothing wrong with the concept of gender roles, but how they are applied, and under which circumstances

this

 

[kapri]

It's mostly unfair because women are now allowed to step out of their gender roles, while men are still expected to provide and protect.

We basically have all the responsbility while none of the positives

Exactly. We've in turn become second class citizens. We are unironically in worse spot than women were before feminism, for the simple fact that without their freedom came the benefits OP already listed. We get to rot and die (and we deserve it in their eyes).

The saddest part of it all imo is that nobody will care until women start paying the price of half of the population basically sinking into hell.

 

[xoxo_404]

High IQ post

 

[xoxo_404]

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

 

[xoxo_404]

Holy shit, that's brutal. I didn't know about that.

 

[Morbilius]

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

Essentially yeah, they get all the benefits from pre feminism as well as taking all the positives that men had as well. They're simultaneously victims while also being strong and independent. Society is so gynocentric that it has no problems bending over backwards to appease these foids.

 

[WastedPotential]

This is why men's rights is a non partisan issue.

Cuckservatives will stick to 'chivalry' and strict gender roles/norms to 'protect mah wuhmen' and basically live on an allowance after paying the housewife 90% of your income.

And then leftists feminists just want female supremacy. They want all the benefits of having 'equal' gender roles as foids, but want men to still take most of the responsibility of the male gender role (conscription, being stoic, breadwinner etc..)


Not that it matters to incels though, because incels are basically less than subhuman to both above-mentioned groups.

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Essentially yeah, they get all the benefits from pre feminism as well as taking all the positives that men had as well. They're simultaneously victims while also being strong and independent. Society is so gynocentric that it has no problems bending over backwards to appease these foids.

Society basically wants you to accept foids ping ponging from traditional roles to feminism ad fuckam whenever they benefit from it. You are bad for calling that out

 

[CADcel]

agreed society likes having men at women’s disposal, we are pretty much like a interchangeable resource

 

[kevkon]

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

I agree, I would say that feminists CLAIM to hate gender roles but then support them when it benefits them. So they’ll say they’re all for gender roles when it comes to them having more freedoms but then the second they sit down at a restaurant they immediately expect the guy to pay for her meal (gender role) they don’t have an actual consistent principled belief.

 

[kevkon]

This is why men's rights is a non partisan issue.

Cuckservatives will stick to 'chivalry' and strict gender roles/norms to 'protect mah wuhmen' and basically live on an allowance after paying the housewife 90% of your income.

And then leftists feminists just want female supremacy. They want all the benefits of having 'equal' gender roles as foids, but want men to still take most of the responsibility of the male gender role (conscription, being stoic, breadwinner etc..)


Not that it matters to incels though, because incels are basically less than subhuman to both above-mentioned groups.

^ your high IQ

 

[Izayacel]

Society has a Default bias towards any Woman , Gynocentric is what we call it here . They are born with a silver Platter by default , some even with Gold Ones . A few With Diamonds " .

The Average and Below Man will try to win her over Indefinitly . Until he finally realises he cant or will end up as a Bux that Gets cheated on . Woman only want the top Man , Everything else for them is a Tool and or a Bux .

Unfortunatly Man dont realize this so they keep spiraling themselfs trying to win her over ( but they cant )

Imagine every sub chad male would step back all of a sudden and wont do shit for 1 Week . ( Unthinkable but lets dream , kek ) Society would Crash then correct itself rather quickly

 

[Izayacel]

Good thread btw , its just more Gynoc awareness at this point

@TooSomething @AtrociousCitizen @GeckoBus @Lonly ghost @veryrare

 

[four1298]

What you're advocating for is transgenderism, the idea that women and men shouldn't act like their sex.

 

[kevkon]

What you're advocating for is transgenderism, the idea that women and men shouldn't act like their sex.

no actually, I’m saying that it doesn’t make sense for men to be expected to adhere to their roles while women aren’t expected to adhere to theirs, I’m calling out the hypocrisy. I’m advocating that men shouldn’t be treated as second class citizens and that women shouldn’t be allowed to reap the rewards from men without providing any benefits in return. There has to be equal give and take, in which this case there is none

 

[GeckoBus]

I know being against traditional gender roles can be perceived as a feminist adjacent take but my reasoning is far different.

Gender roles or “chivalry” only serve to put men down while raising women up. It implies that women have some type of greater inherent value then men and that men must put them on a pedestal and worship them, treat them like some type of “reward” or “prize” the idea that we men are expected to be “protectors” and “providers” to provide for them financially, pay for their food, pay their bills, hold the door for them, protect and defend them, buy them gifts, kiss their ass essentially. When the titanic was sinking every single woman survived and safely made it to life boats while all the men died trying to save them. And for what? Because they were born with a vagina and we were born with a dick???? So if you come out of the womb with a certain set of chromosomes you automatically get the privilege of playing life on easy mode while contributing nothing???

I challenge anyone to answer this question, what would be one single equivalent duty or obligation that women have to men pertaining to the titanic life boat point? I mean seriously what the hell do they do for US in return? Nothing. Also the fact that women are exempt from the draft, if my country went to war men would be forced to go fight and die while they stay at home watching Netflix and eating DoorDash. We are literally expected to DIE for these ungrateful entitled scumbags. This further proves my point that society treats men like they are expendable tools while women are seen as some special important fragile thing to “protect”. Men are expected to serve women while women are expected to do nothing but “receive” they just take take take take, and NEVER give. The worst part is that nobody finds anything wrong with this and finds it normal but if you dare reverse the genders then everyone gasps and your the bad guy. It’s the very definition of entitlement.

The thesis statement here is that men and women at the very least should have equal responsibilities and should both be held to the same standards. Feminists can’t claim to desire equal rights while neglecting equal responsibilities, duties and obligations. You can’t have it both ways.

good thread you get a bump from me

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

I agree, I would say that feminists CLAIM to hate gender roles but then support them when it benefits them. So they’ll say they’re all for gender roles when it comes to them having more freedoms but then the second they sit down at a restaurant they immediately expect the guy to pay for her meal (gender role) they don’t have an actual consistent principled belief.

They also are fine with foids asking for taller, bigger, richer men (gender roles)

 

[Frail Link]

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

Pushing double standards as always

 

[TooSomething]

Good thread btw , its just more Gynoc awareness at this point

@TooSomething @AtrociousCitizen @GeckoBus @Lonly ghost @veryrare

Dude, I am high as the sky. It's insane.

 

[four1298]

no actually, I’m saying that it doesn’t make sense for men to be expected to adhere to their roles while women aren’t expected to adhere to theirs, I’m calling out the hypocrisy. I’m advocating that men shouldn’t be treated as second class citizens and that women shouldn’t be allowed to reap the rewards from men without providing any benefits in return. There has to be equal give and take, in which this case there is none

If gender roles are bad, why do married people live longer and are happier?

 

[uwisij]

We should advocate to bring back female gender roles instead

 

[kevkon]

If gender roles are bad, why do married people live longer and are happier?

First of all, the marriage point is terrible since most of them end in a horrible divorce, it’s actually rare that a marriage works out happily. You should look at the statistics.

Second of all, I’m saying that either both genders should follow their role or neither gender should follow them, I’m against the idea that one gender should have gender expectations and the other doesn’t.

Btw I’ll ask this question again, can you name a single responsibility or obligation that women have to men that’s equivalent to any of the duties or obligations that men have to women? Or do you think we should just serve them while they do nothing?

 

[four1298]

First of all, the marriage point is terrible since most of them end in a horrible divorce, it’s actually rare that a marriage works out happily. You should look at the statistics.

Religious people are less likely to divorce. And I guess so are people who abstain from contraception and abortion.

Religious Service Attendance, Marriage, and Health

Considerable research over the last two decades has been devoted to the relationship between religious participation and health and well-being. Our research on this topic at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health links religious service attendance to a number of better health outcomes...

ifstudies.org

Second of all, I’m saying that either both genders should follow their role or neither gender should follow them, I’m against the idea that one gender should have gender expectations and the other doesn’t.

Men need to do their role, work, whether they are single or not so that they can survive.

 

[AutismKing]

Yeah
The idea that weak, shy, virgin men = loser comes from gender roles

 

[soft]

You're not a real man if you don't

provide for them financially, pay for their food, pay their bills, hold the door for them, protect and defend them, buy them gifts, kiss their ass essentially

 

[xoxo_404]

I totally agree

 

[xoxo_404]

Marriage has lead to a lot of deaths

 

[four1298]

Marriage has lead to a lot of deaths

This is what you support:

 

[four1298]

I'm too lazy to take more screenshots

 

[AutismKing]

This is what you support:

View attachment 1726120

What?

 

[four1298]

What?

That's a screenshot from an MRA subreddit. OP is an MRA, I think.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Based. I ain't anyone's ATM guard dog ready to fight and risk dying on command.

Feminists are PRO gender roles for men and eradication of any role for women

 

[kevkon]

That's a screenshot from an MRA subreddit. OP is an MRA, I think.

MRA meaning men’s rights activist? I mean I didn’t know that term was a thing but I would have no problem labeling myself with it. I’m not a homosexual though like your screenshots implied for some reason?

But If women are going to be tribal with their gender and look out for each other and essentially play “team sports” why shouldn’t men do the same? Defeat female gender tribalism with male gender tribalism. Women are able to unite as a unit much better than men and that’s why they are winning culturally in society.

 

[four1298]

MRA meaning men’s rights activist? I mean I didn’t know that term was a thing but I would have no problem labeling myself with it. I’m not a homosexual though like your screenshots implied for some reason?

But If women are going to be tribal with their gender and look out for each other and essentially play “team sports” why shouldn’t men do the same? Defeat female gender tribalism with male gender tribalism. Women are able to unite as a unit much better than men and that’s why they are winning culturally in society.

I don't think women are winning. (Abortion makes losers)

 

[kevkon]

I don't think women are winning. (Abortion makes losers)

Women have never been winning more through history as they are now. Men are all simps and worship them.

They can all get whatever guy they want and be protected and provided for for the rest of their life. They’ve never been more coddled and simped for and worshiped as in 2026, you have 9/10 men fighting and competing for fucking mid as 4/10 women. We have a problem. A big one.

More and more women are graduating from college meaning they’re gonna be having better jobs, making more money. And still will expect men to pay for everything. Women get the privilege of ignoring their gender roles to benefit them and then jumping back into their role when it starts being beneficial again

The fact that the feminist movement keeps growing larger is all the proof you need. I would be scared to see what the next 10-20 years look like

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

In the past women were expected to be homemakers and take care of kids. Now nobody expects anything from them, while men's gender roles have remained the same.