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Friedrich Nietzsche on the Incel Rebellion

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A spectre is haunting the world of Chad and Stacey — the spectre of the incel rebellion. In the past, incel philosophers who have proposed a rebellion have hitherto failed to take heed of our strengths and weaknesses as incels. Typically the rebellion is foreshadowed to be a violent affair in which the meek manlets of the world overthrow the imposing and tall. Though anyone with a sufficient dose of blackpills would be aware that this is, indeed, a cope. You need only to look to how Bagel Boss was tackled by Chad, the ease with which he was dispatched and how the witnessing females mocked at him for his futile struggle. Incels are men of solitude, so while Bagel Boss might be able to overwhelm Chad with five incel compatriots, this will also not happen, as incels bonds of fellowship are sickly and feeble while Chad's are healthy and robust. That is to say nothing of the fact that civilization would never let it be! While the truth of my statements are obvious, incels need not despair and kill themselves, because the incel rebellion will not be a physical one, but a psychological, moral and spiritual one—verily, for we incels it could be nothing else and truthfully we would want it no other way!

In Nietzsche's On the Genealogy of Morality he examined and evaluated the origins and worth of morality. In short, he saw there are two types of morality: master morality and slave morality. Master morality consists of a strong individual who gets his values from his own desires, and he views their satisfaction as a healthy moral act. This morality is for the powerful, which is to say, for Chad, because it can only be acted out as an expression of his own power. On the other hand, the lower orders that are subjugated beneath Chad are the slaves, or rather, the incels. These dregs lack the strength to satisfy their own desires and they live in a world which has been made by Chad and his ancestors and so they are despised by society. Living under Chad and being unable to satisfy our desires, we incels develop a kind of resentment for Chad, Stacey and for the world, but it is not a simple resentment which could be satisfied, but a deeper and more twisted one. It is what is known as ressentiment—an impotent and lasting resentment that we can do nothing to remedy, even if revenge were to be taken. This condition of ressentiment, though painful, is the initial spark which will soon enflame the incel rebellion.

When ressentiment builds up to sufficient levels it becomes a creative force. Nietzsche believed that throughout history there is a repeating exchange from strength to weakness he called the slave revolt. Chad affirms himself and his own values, as well as life itself, by gratifying himself in the physical world, so what we incels must do is what Nietzsche observed the slaves do: stage a psychological, moral and spiritual revolution by reversing the values of Chad to better suit ourselves. While he values strength which he has in plenty, we must value weakness which we have in plenty. While he values fucking Stacey, we must value not fucking Stacey (chastity). While he values success, ambition and tenacity, we must value failure, contentedness and and compassion. While he values the outer and his outcomes, we must value the inner and our intentions. This is what the incel rebellion will be: making Chad's physical strength into spiritual weaknesses. In short, we must become moralizing Christians, not remain unsuccessful Chads!

Naturally, adopting and spreading this morality will lead to self-hatred, because once we rise to power through disapproval of power, we will be left with a guilty conscience. However, are we not already full of self-loathing with our failed Chad morality? I'd rather take power and live with guilt.

We have nothing to lose but our virginity.
 
I remember reading this.

Was Nietzsche an incel?
 
why is the text a different size and type lol? High effort post for a 1st post though tbh good job.
 
Strong 1st post.


Also it's stacy, not stacey
 
I remember reading this.

Was Nietzsche an incel?
Yes:

Salomé's mother took her to Rome when Salomé was 21. At a literary salon in the city, Salomé became acquainted with Paul Rée, an author. Rée proposed marriage to her, but she instead proposed that they should live and study together as 'brother and sister', along with another man for company, where they would establish an academic commune. Rée accepted the idea, and suggested that they be joined by his friend Friedrich Nietzsche. The two met Nietzsche in Rome in April 1882, and Nietzsche is believed to have instantly fallen in love with Salomé, as Rée had earlier done. Nietzsche asked Rée to propose marriage to Salomé on his behalf, which she rejected. She had been interested in Nietzsche as a friend, but not as a husband. Nietzsche nonetheless was content to join together with Rée and Salomé touring through Switzerland and Italy together, planning their commune. On May 13, in Lucerne, when Nietzsche was alone with Salomé, he earnestly proposed marriage to her again, which she rejected again. He nonetheless was happy to continue with the plans for an academic commune. After discovering about the situation, Nietzsche's sister Elizabeth became determined to get Nietzsche away from what she described as the "immoral woman". The three traveled with Salomé's mother through Italy and considered where they would set up their "Winterplan" commune. This commune was intended to be set up in an abandoned monastery, but as no suitable location was found, the plan was abandoned.

After arriving in Leipzig in October 1882, the three spent a number of weeks together. However,the following month Rée and Salome parted company with Nietzsche, leaving for Stibbe without any plans to meet again. Nietzsche soon fell into a period of mental anguish, although he continued to write to Rée, stating "We shall see one another from time to time, won't we?" In later recriminations, Nietzsche would later blame the failure in his attempts to woo Salome both on Salome, Rée, and on the intrigues of his sister (who had written letters to the family of Salome and Rée to disrupt the plans for the commune). Nietzsche wrote of the affair in 1883, that he felt "genuine hatred for my sister."
 
I feel a presence I have not felt for a long time, welcome brother.
 
this was a nice post man welcome to the forum
 
Thank-you, brother.
 
Umm that's paraphrased from karl Marx wtf
 
I remember reading this.

Was Nietzsche an incel?
He definitely exhibited a lot of incel traits. I think Russel best summed up Nietzsche’s attitude towards women and I think it reflects the incel attitude in general;

His opinion of women, like every man's, is an objectification of his own emotion towards them, which is obviously one of fear. "Forget not thy whip"-- but nine women out of ten would get the whip away from him, and he knew it, so he kept away from women, and soothed his wounded vanity with unkind remarks.

I think this is truer for most of us here than we would like to admit. The true value of women can only be recognised by someone who knows the warmth of their validation, those who don’t are left in the dark and this uncertainty inevitably leads to resentment, bitterness and hatred - as it did in the case of Nietzsche.

That is why the mindset of incels is so alien to people who have loving, successful relationships with women. There is a gap of understanding there that can never be reconciled through verbal deliberation alone because it is a gap brought on by fundamentally different experiences of the world as it is.
 
Based and Book Antiquapiled
 
Wow, thx for raising the bar, try-hard. I will never open a thread now.
 
I think this is truer for most of us here than we would like to admit. The true value of women can only be recognised by someone who knows the warmth of their validation, those who don’t are left in the dark and this uncertainty inevitably leads to resentment, bitterness and hatred - as it did in the case of Nietzsche.

That is why the mindset of incels is so alien to people who have loving, successful relationships with women, there is a gap of understanding there that can never be reconciled through verbal deliberation alone because it is a gap brought on by fundamentally different experiences of the world as it is.
Precisely. In reading the materials of incels, such as My Twisted World, a resounding lack of validation echoes through the whole of the work. For Chad and incel alike, worth is received from women, and not created by man—thus it is the case that all men with the exception of rapists suffer from a frustration and alienation of their agency. Though only an annoyance for Chad that causes him to view women with a vague and unintelligent disdain, for incels it is absolutely devastating. While Chad receives what he desires in a manner that he finds undesirable, incels receive neither what they want or a desirable means of attaining it, and this very fact is a refutation of their worth as human beings!
 
The only way to release the pressure and grasp of society as an incel is by ceasing to depend on society for their physical and emotional needs. The Black Pill infers that we will always suffer in trying to rely on society for happiness.
 
High iq thread, keep it coming buddy boyo
 
i’m too low-iq to understand the 1st post but i’m sure nietzsche and schopenhauer were both incels. escorts don’t count. almost all philosophers have incel traits. they didn’t have internet and forums to burst their rage so they wrote books i guess :feelsthink:
 
i’m too low-iq to understand the 1st post but i’m sure nietzsche and schopenhauer were both incels. escorts don’t count. almost all philosophers have incel traits. they didn’t have internet and forums to burst their rage so they wrote books i guess :feelsthink:
For brainlets: don't compete with Chad in Chad's world by Chad's rules. Instead, redefine the context in which things are judged as worthy and unworthy. Right now strength is worthy and Chad has strength so he's considered good, but what if strength was unworthy and weakness was worthy? We incels would then become worthy because of our weakness, and equally we would become good. Chad excels in the outside world through physical activity and physical attractiveness, so destroy the foundation for his success by rebelling against the worthiness of these values, and put in their place intellectual activity and intellectual compellingness.

For anyone who thinks this unrealistic, consider this: Christianity is, in its origins, an incel rebellion. And in the Christian doctrine, the meek shall inherit the Earth.
 
are philosophers the original copers?
 
are philosophers the original copers?
Yes, the root of all cunning is an inability to achieve gratification of your desires. However, cunning can nonetheless be used to discover what you want and how to get it. This is the strength of the incel. We are intelligent and self-reflective by nature, because the world rejects us and we turn into ourselves. Therefore, we must make this into our power.
 
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Salomé's mother took her to Rome when Salomé was 21. At a literary salon in the city, Salomé became acquainted with Paul Rée, an author. Rée proposed marriage to her, but she instead proposed that they should live and study together as 'brother and sister', along with another man for company, where they would establish an academic commune. Rée accepted the idea, and suggested that they be joined by his friend Friedrich Nietzsche. The two met Nietzsche in Rome in April 1882, and Nietzsche is believed to have instantly fallen in love with Salomé, as Rée had earlier done. Nietzsche asked Rée to propose marriage to Salomé on his behalf, which she rejected. She had been interested in Nietzsche as a friend, but not as a husband. Nietzsche nonetheless was content to join together with Rée and Salomé touring through Switzerland and Italy together, planning their commune. On May 13, in Lucerne, when Nietzsche was alone with Salomé, he earnestly proposed marriage to her again, which she rejected again. He nonetheless was happy to continue with the plans for an academic commune. After discovering about the situation, Nietzsche's sister Elizabeth became determined to get Nietzsche away from what she described as the "immoral woman". The three traveled with Salomé's mother through Italy and considered where they would set up their "Winterplan" commune. This commune was intended to be set up in an abandoned monastery, but as no suitable location was found, the plan was abandoned.

After arriving in Leipzig in October 1882, the three spent a number of weeks together. However,the following month Rée and Salome parted company with Nietzsche, leaving for Stibbe without any plans to meet again. Nietzsche soon fell into a period of mental anguish, although he continued to write to Rée, stating "We shall see one another from time to time, won't we?" In later recriminations, Nietzsche would later blame the failure in his attempts to woo Salome both on Salome, Rée, and on the intrigues of his sister (who had written letters to the family of Salome and Rée to disrupt the plans for the commune). Nietzsche wrote of the affair in 1883, that he felt "genuine hatred for my sister."

I can't believe she was able to rope them into such an engagement
 
The concept is nice. But Chad and Stacy are simply (((puppets))) and christainity is just another string.

Great first post though!

Super high IQ yet comprehendable...
Welcome aboard!
 

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