For incels there is no enemy to rally against

[RegularManlet]

I feel like this fact has our life devoid of meaning.
Sure we might all have a collective disdain for foids, some of us have awful parents, we may have been bullied and outcasted by society.
But the incel problem has grown worse, and this is not the fault of the stacy in your class, or your narcissistic mother, its by design and I have no idea who or why has done it.
I got this idea watching game of thrones, in game of thrones you have a clear enemy, a banner to rally against and a banner to stand with.
How can you fight what you can not see?

 

[ilieknothing]

I disagree, the enemy is foids

 

[Animecel2D]

everyone is my enemy!!!

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

I disagree, the enemy is foids

What about cucks?

 

[ilieknothing]

What about cucks?

Cucks are a secondary enemy. Foids are the murderer doing the crime, Chad is the getaway driver and the cucks are the ones saying that the foid shouldn’t be charged with anything. We are Batman, vigilante trying to bring down the foid

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

Cucks are a secondary enemy. Foids are the murderer doing the crime, Chad is the getaway driver and the cucks are the ones saying that the foid shouldn’t be charged with anything. We are Batman, vigilante trying to bring down the foid

Without cucks, foids would have almost no power.

 

[Murder Mario]

I disagree, the enemy is foids

 

[idfklma]

The enemy as always is the jews

 

[incelmadara]

Dw, now that bottom 90% of men are struggling, we will soon grow in power and by that time those who are against us Do you all remember how redpill got so much hate? Now it is accepted. That is a good sign I will never forgive or forget, I am 34 years old now and my whole youth is gone, not even getting laid now will fix anything

 

[RegularManlet]

I disagree, the enemy is foids

You could make a good argument for that given a thread like this https://incels.is/threads/masculini...-and-more-studies.481353/page-4#post-12072575
However I do not think it is that simple, I do not think foids are responsible for stuff like the push of LGBT

I'd argue it's the simps and cucks that gave them rights

Yeah even in regards to this thread https://incels.is/threads/masculini...-and-more-studies.481353/page-4#post-12072575
It was not always like this foids used to have no rights.

I feel like its something more invisible to us like blackrock or something, I think blackrock is the reason you see so many companies go woke and stuff

 

[RegularManlet]

Dw, now that bottom 90% of men are struggling, we will soon grow in power and by that time those who are against us Do you all remember how redpill got so much hate? Now it is accepted. That is a good sign I will never forgive or forget, I am 34 years old now and my whole youth is gone, not even getting laid now will fix anything

Power to fight an invisible enemy

 

[Zozizo]

I disagree, the enemy is foids

 

[incelmadara]

Power to fight an invisible enemy

The enemy is the one who are against the blackpill and angry lonely men.

 

[RegularManlet]

The enemy is the one who are against the blackpill and angry lonely men.

So like people from inceltears? Those people are as a result of soyciety they are puppets

 

[incelmadara]

So like people from inceltears? Those people are as a result of soyciety they are puppets

IncelTears are filled with women and autistic incel low testosterone men that is trying to cope and get women to like them

Except for XX, nature, we also have simps, chads, the ones who controls the dating market (guess who) and low testosterone cucks. My life at 34 is already over, I don’t want to see more young men get destroyed by life, my life has been suicidefuel trash due to women rejection, I am in constant pain

 

[RegularManlet]

I might get hate for this, but the enemy is EVOLUTION. Survival of the fittest. Chads have been deemed more fit than us to pass on their genes.

There is nothing we can do to stop that. We can only mitigate the outcome and put into place strategies that make it easier

Yes I suppose in part, its utter stupidity thougj as if a foid can make a smart decision

If it really is just plain "evolution" I am not so sure, we did not have these ridiculous standards decades ago, you could probably find a thread with a poll asking members if their father would be an incel in this current day and alot including myself voted yes. There is some sort of underlying cause for unrealistic standards and hoeflation

 

[incelmadara]

Yes I suppose in part, its utter stupidity thougj as if a foid can make a smart decision

If it really is just plain "evolution" I am not so sure, we did not have these ridiculous standards decades ago, you could probably find a thread with a poll asking members if their father would be an incel in this current day and alot including myself voted yes. There is some sort of underlying cause for unrealistic standards and hoeflation

Google and find out who bought the dating market and is destroying the society, youll be in for a surprise

 

[RegularManlet]

Google and find out who bought the dating market and is destroying the society, youll be in for a surprise

google who is destroying society?
Genius I will just google it thanks

 

[incelmadara]

google who is destroying society?
Genius I will just google it thanks

Tinder (app) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[RegularManlet]

Tinder (app) - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

Proof of capitalism
They are not pushing Lgbt degeneracy, censorship or useless vaccines

 

[Govid_Dorious]

I got this idea watching game of thrones, in game of thrones you have a clear enemy, a banner to rally against and a banner to stand with.
How can you fight what you can not see?

i can see my enemies

al of them have flags

 

[incelmadara]

Proof of capitalism
They are not pushing Lgbt degeneracy, censorship or useless vaccines

Look at the founders hehe.

 

[blackpillednigga]

everyone is my enemy!!!

unironically this tbh

 

[inceloser]

The enemy is Natalism.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

I feel like this fact has our life devoid of meaning.
Sure we might all have a collective disdain for foids, some of us have awful parents, we may have been bullied and outcasted by society.
But the incel problem has grown worse, and this is not the fault of the stacy in your class, or your narcissistic mother, its by design and I have no idea who or why has done it.
I got this idea watching game of thrones, in game of thrones you have a clear enemy, a banner to rally against and a banner to stand with.
How can you fight what you can not see?

Don't think there is a lack of enemies. Women, feminism, progressives, big tech, the left, the cucked right, redpill scammers, bluepilled normies, academia, the educational system, the list is endless. The problem is more that we have no realistic battle plan. There is nothing we can do, although I think that is in part because we are both too lazy and lacking in human capital.

If you really wanted, you/we could, e.g.,
-Write a story which serves to spread ideas and stats while also presenting inceldom from a sympathetic perspective, focusing on our misery and suffering and the disadvantages we have not only in dating but in every domain of life because looks are universally important to how you are treated.
-Create a real incel documentary, one that features the real life stories of some of us (who would have to dox themselfs for this) and goes into detail about what we went through. Obviously don't take some edgelords, put some relatively normal men who were broken by life in front of a camera and have them tell their stories.
-Study social sciences and start subverting academia from the inside by repurposing their analytical framework used for minorities and women in differend contexts and applying it to our situation. Or focus on pushing lookism into the public conciousness.

I could go on for a bit. There are less daunting projects, like just collecting all the videos, articles and blogs from men and women in happy relationships where the dude is not well-endowed. Put them all in one collection, together with amateur porn featuring someone with a small dick, and anything else you can find that seems relevant.
From now on, whenever one of us struggling with his dick size is feeling depressed and wants to off himself, he can randomly open one of the links in the collection and read about or see some other man like him who managed to have a functional relationship + satisfying sex. Basically, a lifefuel injection whenever needed.



Think what really is the problem is that we are not united enough and all struggling too much with our own life to do much. If I felt really motivated on a day, I would rather try working on improving my own life in the hopes of ascending in the future rather than investing effort into some incel-related issue. At least for now.

 

[NorthernWind]

Nature is the enemy.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Having an enemy to rally against doesn't necessarily give your life meaning, it might just create a new sense of futility

Often the 'enemy' is complex anyway

For incels, it could be foids, but maybe simps are also necessary to create incel issues

For Nazi Germany, maybe Britain and France are at war with them, but the USA and USSR are creating pressure and/or giving aid as well. Also the kikes are behind it all, but they rely on their white simp nations too

For Russia, Ukraine is the direct enemy, but they need funding from the West, and the Western nations are tied closely to various corporations and the world economy.

So I'm not sure that looking for a single 'enemy' is often a reasonable expectation when we're not talking about fantasy novels and such

 

[Turtle02]

Don't think there is a lack of enemies. Women, feminism, progressives, big tech, the left, the cucked right, redpill scammers, bluepilled normies, academia, the educational system, the list is endless. The problem is more that we have no realistic battle plan. There is nothing we can do, although I think that is in part because we are both too lazy and lacking in human capital.

If you really wanted, you/we could, e.g.,
-Write a story which serves to spread ideas and stats while also presenting inceldom from a sympathetic perspective, focusing on our misery and suffering and the disadvantages we have not only in dating but in every domain of life because looks are universally important to how you are treated.
-Create a real incel documentary, one that features the real life stories of some of us (who would have to dox themselfs for this) and goes into detail about what we went through. Obviously don't take some edgelords, put some relatively normal men who were broken by life in front of a camera and have them tell their stories.
-Study social sciences and start subverting academia from the inside by repurposing their analytical framework used for minorities and women in differend contexts and applying it to our situation. Or focus on pushing lookism into the public conciousness.

I could go on for a bit. There are less daunting projects, like just collecting all the videos, articles and blogs from men and women in happy relationships where the dude is not well-endowed. Put them all in one collection, together with amateur porn featuring someone with a small dick, and anything else you can find that seems relevant.
From now on, whenever one of us struggling with his dick size is feeling depressed and wants to off himself, he can randomly open one of the links in the collection and read about or see some other man like him who managed to have a functional relationship + satisfying sex. Basically, a lifefuel injection whenever needed.



Think what really is the problem is that we are not united enough and all struggling too much with our own life to do much. If I felt really motivated on a day, I would rather try working on improving my own life in the hopes of ascending in the future rather than investing effort into some incel-related issue. At least for now.

Agree that getting normies to sympathize with us is a good idea. As is, most normies only have a caricature of uncles in mind and have no idea what our lives are actually like.

 

[RegularManlet]

Don't think there is a lack of enemies. Women, feminism, progressives, big tech, the left, the cucked right, redpill scammers, bluepilled normies, academia, the educational system, the list is endless

All of these seem to not address the roots of the problem, or feels like going after the puppet rather than the puppetmaster. I do not think that the state of the world in 2023 is by coincidence, and I don't think you can just blame one singular thing like technology or something, attacking the root of the problem would deal an immediate blow to redpill scammers for example.
Although you make great examples about some form of action to take. A documentary is a good idea if I was suicidal or old and didnt give a single shit anymore, such a documentary would be social suicide.

Think what really is the problem is that we are not united enough and all struggling too much with our own life to do much. If I felt really motivated on a day, I would rather try working on improving my own life in the hopes of ascending in the future rather than investing effort into some incel-related issue. At least for now.

This is true yeah, its hard to know how many incels there really are too, sure stats say 60 percent of men are single now? (jesus) but that does not mean 60% are incels, you also have incels in denial, since the term incel is associated with racism and paeodophilia.
I relate to your motivation, I will sooner use it to improve my own life situation than crusading under a banner for incels or something lol, there is no guaranteed ROI there.

Having an enemy to rally against doesn't necessarily give your life meaning, it might just create a new sense of futility

Often the 'enemy' is complex anyway

For incels, it could be foids, but maybe simps are also necessary to create incel issues

For Nazi Germany, maybe Britain and France are at war with them, but the USA and USSR are creating pressure and/or giving aid as well. Also the kikes are behind it all, but they rely on their white simp nations too

For Russia, Ukraine is the direct enemy, but they need funding from the West, and the Western nations are tied closely to various corporations and the world economy.

So I'm not sure that looking for a single 'enemy' is often a reasonable expectation when we're not talking about fantasy novels and such

You make a good point
In these fantasy novels or what not or even back in history rallying under a banner to fight an enemy, i doubt these men were feeling lost in life or had no motivation, however incels are not so united and its not so black and white on who exactly is our enemy, alot of people on here hate foids but we all know foids really are not that intelligent and they are not the masterminds of all this globohomo. And even if they were, what would I do just go around killing random foids lol, I just often feel lost

 

[Wilmoty_95]

I feel like this fact has our life devoid of meaning.
Sure we might all have a collective disdain for foids, some of us have awful parents, we may have been bullied and outcasted by society.
But the incel problem has grown worse, and this is not the fault of the stacy in your class, or your narcissistic mother, its by design and I have no idea who or why has done it.
I got this idea watching game of thrones, in game of thrones you have a clear enemy, a banner to rally against and a banner to stand with.
How can you fight what you can not see?

A thoughtful post.

I'm not entirely sure my lack of romantic success is entirely perpetrated by women. The last forty years have seen the atomisation of society on a grand scale, community breakdown, soaring divorce rates, declining birthrates, growing dissatisfaction with a neoliberal economy that doesn't really produce anything tangible, an unprecedented drug addiction crisis, the list goes on. Previous generations cannot understand or appreciate the struggles of men in this generation, because our difficulties are diametrically different.

If you talked to a mass shooter, for example, they would probably tell you it was the inevitable conclusion of their natural life. Mass shootings have grown exponentially in scale, not just in the United States, but in other Western societies as well. This speaks to the emotional desolation and moral bankruptcy of our modern world, where someone becomes so dejected and isolated from the world around them they basically malfunction and gun people down. The self-hatred, loathing, fear, anxiety, rage, resentment, that many of these men feel is finally released in a torrent of violence and suffering. It's a final, declarative, destructive act of public suicide. I struggle with killing flies, and don't have any desire to perpetrate one, but I can see how that rage and despair eventually turns outward. Mass shootings are a pointless, gratuitous act of violence that means the shooter still ends up losing anyway. Juke Box Heroes they are not.

So that begs the question: who is responsible? I think it is a collation of things really, some within our control as a society, some not. Inputs and outputs. Phones and the emergence of social media has frayed social bonds to the point I don't believe there has ever been anything like this in the human experience, ever. I think we are simply products of the modern "economy". Personnel became a "human resources" - you don't hear "personnel" in corporate nomenclature anymore. I'm ranting now of course, but the Commanding Heights of our economy are controlled by people who don't give a fuck about what we think at all, they don't even know we exist.

 

[Mental Maoricel]

Agree that getting normies to sympathize with us is a good idea. As is, most normies only have a caricature of uncles in mind and have no idea what our lives are actually like.

I think this is a good idea. I have received a lot of shame for not having a girlfriend and no understanding of why I struggle mentally. If normies could have just an ounce of understanding of how damaging it can be to go without any affection or human contact then maybe they’d get how we feel resentment and anger

 

[RegularManlet]

'm not entirely sure my lack of romantic success is entirely perpetrated by women. The last forty years have seen the atomisation of society on a grand scale, community breakdown, soaring divorce rates, declining birthrates, growing dissatisfaction with a neoliberal economy that doesn't really produce anything tangible, an unprecedented drug addiction crisis, the list goes on. Previous generations cannot understand or appreciate the struggles of men in this generation, because our difficulties are diametrically different.

Nice post brocel, it would be foolish to think its only the fault of foids, its a combination of a large amount of factors

I struggle with killing flies

Lol same I will always try to avoid killing anything living wherever possible, that being said I can at least sympathize with mass shooters a little, it would feel like an act of revenge you would truly be living in the moment but I still think its an awful idea

So that begs the question: who is responsible? I think it is a collation of things really, some within our control as a society, some not. Inputs and outputs. Phones and the emergence of social media has frayed social bonds to the point I don't believe there has ever been anything like this in the human experience, ever. I think we are simply products of the modern "economy". Personnel became a "human resources" - you don't hear "personnel" in corporate nomenclature anymore. I'm ranting now of course, but the Commanding Heights of our economy are controlled by people who don't give a fuck about what we think at all, they don't even know we exist.

I think the rise of the internet and phones are a big deal, people would go outside and interact more with each other and the older generations will attest to that, its alot easier to go online on discord and meet people by playing a game or something, still hard to find a girlfriend or "egirl" but online friendships just are not the same at all.
I don't think something like the advent of technology such as phones was done by an invisible enemy I think in this case its an unforseen consequence. I am not sure how to fix it, something like pokemon go got people to go outside and I think incidentally interact with people but I was a complete truecel when that app was popular so I did not play pokemon go so idk if people interacted with each other and if stuff like that is a good solution, I think one kid accidentally stumbled upon a dead body playing that game JFL if your the murderer in that situation getting caught because of a stupid app.

 

[Wilmoty_95]

Nice post brocel, it would be foolish to think its only the fault of foids, its a combination of a large amount of factors

Lol same I will always try to avoid killing anything living wherever possible, that being said I can at least sympathize with mass shooters a little, it would feel like an act of revenge you would truly be living in the moment but I still think its an awful idea

I think the rise of the internet and phones are a big deal, people would go outside and interact more with each other and the older generations will attest to that, its alot easier to go online on discord and meet people by playing a game or something, still hard to find a girlfriend or "egirl" but online friendships just are not the same at all.
I don't think something like the advent of technology such as phones was done by an invisible enemy I think in this case its an unforseen consequence. I am not sure how to fix it, something like pokemon go got people to go outside and I think incidentally interact with people but I was a complete truecel when that app was popular so I did not play pokemon go so idk if people interacted with each other and if stuff like that is a good solution, I think one kid accidentally stumbled upon a dead body playing that game JFL if your the murderer in that situation getting caught because of a stupid app.

I remember Pokemon Go well, it was popular for about a year, Clinton tried to get votes referencing it (cringe) but I think the fundamental is the lack of community and support structures. Black males have gangs, but what do White men have? the communal bonds among Europeans are more frayed because we place a bigger currency on individualism and self-interest. This is also the case where I live. I won't comment on ethnicels, because their experiences are different to my own.

Fundamentally, if men don't attain the basic subsistence level of manhood, we begin to malfunction. Mental health pathologies arise, or we turn inward and brood, this is clear, because I'm going through that right now. I have a phone, but I'm never using it, I talk with people on my social media profiles, but I'm always the one initiating discussion, and they don't seem interested. No one really wants to talk with me about 90% of the time, and I rarely get invited anywhere, at all. And when I am, I don't feel like I'm actually wanted around. I worked for free once, just to have that social connection, and got nothing out of it.

But more related to this discussion, I think we should both give ourselves some credit. Our state of being means we don't roll on vibes or motivational quotes, we see the world for what it truly is. I think both of us have made a balanced, accurate assessment of the situation.

 

[Asgard]

How can you fight what you can not see?

Emmanuel Goldstein.

 

[soul contre tous]

The enemy as always is the jews

 

[soul contre tous]

Nature is the enemy.

 

[CrackingYs]

Society
Foids
Jews
Faggots
Trannies

There's five off the top of my head, I could go on.

 

[RegularManlet]

or we turn inward and brood, this is clear, because I'm going through that right now. I have a phone, but I'm never using it, I talk with people on my social media profiles, but I'm always the one initiating discussion, and they don't seem interested. No one really wants to talk with me about 90% of the time, and I rarely get invited anywhere, at all. And when I am, I don't feel like I'm actually wanted around.

Its as if you are talking about me lol except the work for free part I LDAR alot.

But more related to this discussion, I think we should both give ourselves some credit. Our state of being means we don't roll on vibes or motivational quotes, we see the world for what it truly is. I think both of us have made a balanced, accurate assessment of the situation.

Yeah I mean I personally enjoy discussing the truths of the world and stuff, I feel like I am in a situation with no hope on the horizon, thanks for the chat

 

[RegularManlet]

Society
Foids
Jews
Faggots
Trannies

There's five off the top of my head, I could go on.

Foids and faggots are the way they are because of strings that have been pulled and I am not entirely sure on why.

For example foids in the workplace has contributed to hoeflation, but why are there so many affirmative actions in place for foids in the first place? Why were they encouraged to join the workforce in the first place to the point where they outperform man academically in school and outearn them in jobs, then on top of that why is this mythical "patriarchy" still spouted, foids do not know this.

 

[Luzifer]

I might get hate for this, but the enemy is EVOLUTION. Survival of the fittest. Chads have been deemed more fit than us to pass on their genes.

There is nothing we can do to stop that. We can only mitigate the outcome and put into place strategies that make it easier

no its foids most off us would have had foids 30y ago easily

 

[Wilmoty_95]

Its as if you are talking about me lol except the work for free part I LDAR alot.

Yeah I mean I personally enjoy discussing the truths of the world and stuff, I feel like I am in a situation with no hope on the horizon, thanks for the chat

All good, feel free to drop me a line if you're feeling down

 

[Zozizo]

I might get hate for this, but the enemy is EVOLUTION. Survival of the fittest. Chads have been deemed more fit than us to pass on their genes.

There is nothing we can do to stop that. We can only mitigate the outcome and put into place strategies that make it easier

in nature everything that's happening to incels right now is impossible & adding to that no chads or foids ever invented any technologies or civilization if it was up to them we would live like hypergamous gorillas not in this modern world.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

I might get hate for this, but the enemy is EVOLUTION. Survival of the fittest. Chads have been deemed more fit than us to pass on their genes.

There is nothing we can do to stop that. We can only mitigate the outcome and put into place strategies that make it easier

To some extent, what is seen as Chad is partly socially constructed. Our society seeing us as nothing but worthless losers, demonizing our entire sex, lying about the origin of the differences between women and men, lying about why women do what they do, lying about what women are doing and what the consequences are, etc., all these things are making it worse for us, because they lead to us not getting any empathy from society at large, which makes it undesirable for any individual woman to give us empathy herself, and because they put no amount of responsibility on female shoulders, meaning there is zero social pressure for them to become self-aware of their behavior.

Making something into a symbol of status can be enough to make it attractive, not in the way that good looks are attractive, but in differend, still relevant way. In the same manner, making something low status and disliked by everyone makes it/us even more unattractive than we already are.