RageFuel Foid is writing an incel character and doesn’t want people to sympathize with him

[FebrezeCel]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/writing/comments/fynntu/im_writing_a_character_who_is_an_incelhow_do_you/?rdt=44964


Stupid fucking foid claims she has studied incel behavior. “Now, the clearest thing here is that I'm trying to reflect traits of incel behaviour. I've studied and researched this behaviour and community extensively and have had first-hand experience with this kind of behaviour.” “he physically harms animals, he refuses professional help”. Fucking bitches only see us as evil villians. Very well, one day they will all have their own suffering.

 

[AsiaCel]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

 

[Izayacel]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

 

[PersonalityChad]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

As they should

 

[Robb97]

What would work: 1) Describing the incel as really ugly 2) Making him completely harmless, a coward but with high confidence, passive aggressive, smirking constantly, thinking he is above everyone else 3) Make up funny stories where his "confidence" (in reality just a defense mechanism) gets taken down and he is ridiculed and embarassed.
This way there is no dark triad halo

 

[Ahnfeltia]

I'm no writing professional, but won't a villain that ain't pitiable just end up being one of those shitty villains who seems evil for the sake of being evil?

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Kek fuel

 

[soul contre tous]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

It's because the "villain" usually rebels against the injustice inherent to nature and is a revolutionary both in thought and in action.
He is usually discriminated against and treated unfairly and then decides to fight back against it.
He is the underdog that refuses to get cucked and exploited because it's "the right thing to do".
God hates him for being born subhuman, and this is why he starts to hate god in return.

The hero on the other hand is CHOsen by nature, he is blessed with god's gifts, because god loves him.
He is genetically superior to the villain, therefore him treating the villain like trash is justified.
All he is doing is showing the villain his genetic inferiority.
That's why the hero always wins at the end.
It is a psyop that implants the idea of resistance always being futile in the heads of the common people.

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

He is usually discriminated against and treated unfairly and then decides to fight back against it.

It's because claiming "Ok" isn't quite the same as genetic composition.

One such CNS gene is shown here:

1000Genomes_30x	Global	Study-wide	6404	G=0.7876	A=0.2124
1000Genomes_30x	African	Sub	1786	G=0.6926	A=0.3074
1000Genomes_30x	Europe	Sub	1266	G=0.7385	A=0.2615
1000Genomes_30x	South Asian	Sub	1202	G=0.7438	A=0.2562
1000Genomes_30x	East Asian	Sub	1170	G=0.9974	A=0.0026
1000Genomes_30x	American	Sub	980	G=0.828	A=0.172

 

[Detro]

It's basically impossible to truly represent an incel perspective because it's such a subtle and long term disease it doesn't fit into any story format. All the dumb normalscum can see is the end result: a bitter man whose sense of empathy has been near completely blown out.
You'd basically need a lord of the rings trilogy where 99% of the word count is describing the same day every day for YEARS on end with a smattering of how they have few if any friends who are all living the same way. Normies literally can't comprehend incel loneliness.

 

[Chief]

"My problem lies in humanising the character without making him sympathetic"

There is no fucking way. The brain cancer goes so deep that when she is thinking of incels she recognizes that the position of the incel can not be looked at without sympathy but her brain is telling her "incel bad, must make evil for evil's sake".

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

One way to do this could be to focus on the incel's goals. They must be plausible and relatable, like finding a girlfriend, not being bullied, having a normal life. But then the fails with this over his entire life and becomes bitter, jaded, misguided, whatever. There is just no way of writing a true incel without making him a victim though.

However, achieving 0 sympathy would be impossible because then his goals wouldn't be relatable. He'd be a villain who's evil just for the sake of being evil, and that's horrible writing

 

[Furrgin]

Any incel chatacter would end up lol3 homelander or Patrick Bateman

Bu but you aren't supposed to like them!

 

[Incedel]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

the hero is the chad and just like the foid said his life is predetermined by destiny and fate (aka genetics) to put himj at the top of the pyramid no matter how low he starts (Saint Meeks) meanwhile the incel type is surrounded by malevolent and constantly shit on but the moment he gets frustrated and doesn't suck it up he becomes the bad guy. Thats why villains are more relatable than heroes these days at least to low tier normies and incels which is the majority of the male population

 

[Puppeter]

They'll fail doing it lol. Usually villian's get more attention than "heroes"

Thats the best part

 

[Incedel]

It's because the "villain" usually rebels against the injustice inherent to nature and is a revolutionary both in thought and in action.
He is usually discriminated against and treated unfairly and then decides to fight back against it.
He is the underdog that refuses to get cucked and exploited because it's "the right thing to do".
God hates him for being born subhuman, and this is why he starts to hate god in return.

The hero on the other hand is CHOsen by nature, he is blessed with god's gifts, because god loves him.
He is genetically superior to the villain, therefore him treating the villain like trash is justified.
All he is doing is showing the villain his genetic inferiority.
That's why the hero always wins at the end.
It is a psyop that implants the idea of resistance always being futile in the heads of the common people.

Luke Skywalker, genetic descendent of the strongest Jedi
Indiana Jones, white giga chad dabbing on weird looking germans and curries
Aragorn, the ancient superhuman giga chad destined to be king versus ugly subhuman orcs
Batman, rich dark traid giga mogger that beats up on poorfags

All these heroes are represented at the genetic and social peaks of society who reinforce societies rules on the lesser through natural justified violence

 

[Incedel]

Thats the best part

Pain was right and Naruto was a faggot cuck

 

[mknova]

this bitch is retarded

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

this bitch is retarded

I'll win, eventually. Don't mind my illness though.

 

[MillionBashStream97]

Rent Free.

Also, she doesn't need advice on that. Just write the strawman of the Incel she has in her mind. No one will have sympathy with a Incel, ever.

 

[FakeFakecel]

 

[incelmadara]

One wrong thing here:

Incels does not want to torture animals.

Incels want to torture attractive people and bluepillers for having a better life breeding, and rightfully so, they all deserve that treatment from incels in World of warcraft game

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Instead of being pitiable, she should make him a resentment-deserving bastard whose grief has stifled the voice of reason.

Wouldn't the incel being grief-stricken to the point of arousing indignation be automatically pitiable? Maybe not emotionally, but on a rational level. Esp. if he was once a nice guy as she intends for him to be at the beginning.

 

[Gendocel]

 

[Ahnfeltia]

Pity and sympathy are emotional sentiments, not rational concepts.

Can you not feel bad for someone on a rational level? Like knowing someone got screwed over by life and consequently feeling bad for them on some level despite thinking them a sad sack of shit. Think a man who had it all, lost it all, and became a despondent alcoholic.

The resentment and grief of an incel should consist of cold calculation

I doubt ER was running on reason when he went eponymous. You say pity and sympathy are emotional as opposed to rational, but I'd say resentment and grief are emotional as opposed to rational, whereas pity and empathy can be rational as described previously.

 

[Gendocel]

Kek fuel

God what an ugly whore

 

[Confessor]

Lol she probably got rejected by a Quiet Chad and thinks he is an incel and is now writing revenge fanfics

Women get way angrier at being rejected than men. Men are used to rejections lol.

 

[Confessor]

It's because the "villain" usually rebels against the injustice inherent to nature and is a revolutionary both in thought and in action.
He is usually discriminated against and treated unfairly and then decides to fight back against it.
He is the underdog that refuses to get cucked and exploited because it's "the right thing to do".
God hates him for being born subhuman, and this is why he starts to hate god in return.

The hero on the other hand is CHOsen by nature, he is blessed with god's gifts, because god loves him.
He is genetically superior to the villain, therefore him treating the villain like trash is justified.
All he is doing is showing the villain his genetic inferiority.
That's why the hero always wins at the end.
It is a psyop that implants the idea of resistance always being futile in the heads of the common people.

That is true but many works of fiction do show genetically lesser people fighting back against bullies though this usually includes them becoming genetically superior by working hard.

 

[Puppeter]

Pain was right and Naruto was a faggot cuck

I know

 

[Incedel]

I know

yeah just another example of a destined (genetic) chad taking over despite being incompetent and ruining blackpilled characters (sasuke and pain)

 

[Darkday]

Hard to write an unsympathetic character when the character is hated for no reason.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Just make him act like a cartoon character lmao easy

Darth Vader took off the mask.

"It is I! All along, the villain you despised was I, Elliot Page! You remember me, don't you? The weak little boy who you rejected. despite my years of friendship and love, and brushed away as if I was a pathetic insect. And now! Now I am the second-in-line to a Galactic Empire, and I shall have my vengeance on you! You should have knelt down and kissed the ring when there was still time. Now that I'm in charge, all the despair and tears I suffered at your hands will be inflicted on you! GUARDS, UNLEASH THE DEATH STAR!"

With a dramatic sweep of his hands, he pointed towards the window, where Kelsee saw her native planet, Ihetsand.

She stared at the familiar sight, at first with confusion. Why was he showing her this?

A loud, worried cry echoed around the room as she realized his intentions.

"Muahahaha!" he crowed victoriously, strutting around the room with a skip in his step.

This was a far cry from the dark, unfeeling villain she had been briefed about before coming, with an unflinching stare and slow-methodical pacing across the room. Instead, it was more like a tragicomedy. It felt like there should be a punchline soon, but this situation was too grave for her to laugh.