As we all know. Feminism is massively on the rise. Free from arranged marriages, universal birth control and abortion for all women, and in general, women's rights. In this thread, I want to detail why I believe Feminism is not as beneficial as people proclaim, particularly on the left. I want to show how a more patriarchal system can work and in fact, be more helpful and resourceful towards us all.
Part 1: Why Is Feminism inherently an issue?
Before we start, I want to address what exactly *type* of Feminism I am talking about, so we all are on a clear page. There are many different types, "roots" feminism, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th feminism and many more. For this specific theory of mine, I will be going with "4TH Wave Feminism," since I believe that this is the most established, considered, and one without the most errs. Particularly, Liberalism and also Radicalism. It's also most likely the most common with these racialists. It rises in the early 2010's, so some of us probably know and remember what this felt like.
I believe that Feminism causes more problems then good fixes. For example, the title, censorship. Feminism often hides and misguides itself towards the entitled "Women's Right's" movement whilst having very misandrist content often incarnated beneath it all. "Women's Power" and more are all common guidelines and titles used for advertisement. This research study found that censorship can occur in a variety of places, even in libraries. In multiple places in the entire world, the difficulty of something opposing such an ideology and radical shift in tone, can be observed. Another problem I have seem to found and that we all experience, is the constant misuse and abuse. In that same article, as you can see, it shows that "expressive man hating" is a valid and simpler approach to it and can slip by the cracks.
Do any of us think that would fly if you switched the positions? Same thing happening to us here, look no further then the complete destruction of the words like "Bigot, Incel, and Homophobia." Used like a fly to a fruit, common. Anyway, back to Feminism. In the past, feminism could've been seen as a valid upcoming and a shortcoming for the governments. 1917 was the year the 19TH amendment was signed. This order wanted to firmly establish the NAWSA (National American Women's Suffrage) which wanted women to be able to vote for the patriots and caregivers, along with women in general.
On it's own, in a simple patriarchal society this could've worked. Possibly, it did. I can't say for certain. Looking at it today, I believe it has gotten out of hand and failed in multiple areas. Another area I want to shine on is the inclusion, and diversity for women. This study highlights many problems with the modern feminist Ideology. Even so far as going to say genetics are the problem, and not society in it self. (Based.) It highlights how feminism ironically, destroys the entire point of it, the females! It has muddled the water with these frankly, retarded ideas such as "non binary, transgender and others" Denying your biology has led us to where we are now. I won't say all of the issues as to not clog up this page, but one more I do want to touch (and one we are all VERY much familiar with!) is Feminism empowering women to think "sex work" is in anyway a good thing or beneficial to the society they so willing critique to all living hell and back. It's supposed to be "on the behalf of women's movements" but this act directly correlates to the opposite! I believe that I have said enough here, I want to move on to my next section.
Part 2: Why is Patriarchy a possibly superior option?
I believe that Patriarchy is a superior option to Feminism in multiple ways. I will highlight one now. Men have built and have the minds and overall brawn for this type of suitable society. Some people believe that Patriarchy is a fundamental shift of the sex's. One being automatically superior to the other. I don't believe this, at least not my version. I have looked for this version, and I believe that it is the more radical shifted type. Similar to the Far-Right in nature. Patriarchy, at least to me, is NOT saying that men are the superior sex. As much as users here hate to say it, I believe that some sort of balance could work out. Not necessarily a shift, but more so an understanding that Men SHOULD be the one's doing the heavy lifting and working and also understanding that Men should be getting rewarded. We quite literally have done most of the heavy lifting to get to this point. White people have built the TV, Internet, and multiple other systems. No different here, except for a larger population. As we can very well see, when women tend to get into these male-centered spaces (mind you, firmly established as such beforehand.) All hell breaks loose. With the Women's unhampered emotions, it can cause strikes and chaos for the other men trying to swoon on in for the the big girl. Patriarchy makes sure to stop this by:
1: Keeping Women in a secular and established Union for them. This does not mean that their rights to voting, speaking, freedom, or other sources *need* to be taken away. It means that we are kept in our own centers and the other sex is prohibited from entering. What I believe this does is equality at a global and baseline feel. It doesn't need to have a manufactured, faked, and often failed system to prove it's worth. It works on it's own and their are no objections. There would be multiple different stations (so to speak) for the women to work at. Groups, in other words. I still do believe some Restrictions need to happen for women and men. Certain Political Parties should be restricted, for example.
2: There would be fewer genuine gender wars and potential for violence. People would understand that one sex would be doing the heavy lifting. Whilst also having checks and balances for both groups. I don't like Centrism at all, so do not get it twisted. I am not saying that. I am saying that both sexes need to understand that we aren't compatible on this type of level any further.
3: We could begin to give understanding and courses to the people who NEED it without an ENFORCEMENT of such radical behavior (Feminism). Women to Women, Men to Men. As the saying goes, for example. 90% of male therapists are useless and 100% of female therapists are useless for Incels like us. That 10% could be firmly expanded and encroached upon. That way, we all seem to find our own way to get what we need, want or desire without breaking anything.
Some, may say that Patriarchy is still bad because instead of *all* men being better, it's only a *few*. You'd be right, but I also must ask, would this not be approachable by a potential political party shift? An Oligarchy or Capitalistic system has (unfortunately) lead us to where we are now. Democratic is equally as shit, in my eyes. We need a new system, period. I have not found a concluding option to this. Anarchism, Hoppeanism, and Anarchy Monarchism are all options I have considered. Personally, leaning towards Hoppeanism myself. It preserves self-ownership to a good degree whilst not also hitting the cringe high notes of Democracy or others. It has many other possibles like Smaller City-States, ruling out One-World Government and others. Anti-LGBT (Literally) and much more. All that I can say are based indeed.
I hope I have been able to establish my firm position on why I think this new Feminism is not inherently at all a good thing. And why a potential shift may be a good, or even great thing. I could have covered much more, and probably will at some point. If you have any questions, objections, or statements of your own, please feel free to add them! I will update this with the title by calling it "(Part 1") if I do, so keep your eyes out! Thank you so much for reading fellow incels, and bye!
Sources:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326414992_Feminist_Censorship
https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/19-amendment
https://anthroholic.com/problems-with-modern-feminism
https://polcompball.wikitide.org/wiki/Hoppeanism#Anti-LGBT (Yes, I know it's cringe as shit, but it's legit the only one I could find for a different source other then mine, sorry
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcC-6Eea1w8
(Decent video on Anarchy-Captalistism)
Part 1: Why Is Feminism inherently an issue?
Before we start, I want to address what exactly *type* of Feminism I am talking about, so we all are on a clear page. There are many different types, "roots" feminism, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th feminism and many more. For this specific theory of mine, I will be going with "4TH Wave Feminism," since I believe that this is the most established, considered, and one without the most errs. Particularly, Liberalism and also Radicalism. It's also most likely the most common with these racialists. It rises in the early 2010's, so some of us probably know and remember what this felt like.
I believe that Feminism causes more problems then good fixes. For example, the title, censorship. Feminism often hides and misguides itself towards the entitled "Women's Right's" movement whilst having very misandrist content often incarnated beneath it all. "Women's Power" and more are all common guidelines and titles used for advertisement. This research study found that censorship can occur in a variety of places, even in libraries. In multiple places in the entire world, the difficulty of something opposing such an ideology and radical shift in tone, can be observed. Another problem I have seem to found and that we all experience, is the constant misuse and abuse. In that same article, as you can see, it shows that "expressive man hating" is a valid and simpler approach to it and can slip by the cracks.
Do any of us think that would fly if you switched the positions? Same thing happening to us here, look no further then the complete destruction of the words like "Bigot, Incel, and Homophobia." Used like a fly to a fruit, common. Anyway, back to Feminism. In the past, feminism could've been seen as a valid upcoming and a shortcoming for the governments. 1917 was the year the 19TH amendment was signed. This order wanted to firmly establish the NAWSA (National American Women's Suffrage) which wanted women to be able to vote for the patriots and caregivers, along with women in general.
On it's own, in a simple patriarchal society this could've worked. Possibly, it did. I can't say for certain. Looking at it today, I believe it has gotten out of hand and failed in multiple areas. Another area I want to shine on is the inclusion, and diversity for women. This study highlights many problems with the modern feminist Ideology. Even so far as going to say genetics are the problem, and not society in it self. (Based.) It highlights how feminism ironically, destroys the entire point of it, the females! It has muddled the water with these frankly, retarded ideas such as "non binary, transgender and others" Denying your biology has led us to where we are now. I won't say all of the issues as to not clog up this page, but one more I do want to touch (and one we are all VERY much familiar with!) is Feminism empowering women to think "sex work" is in anyway a good thing or beneficial to the society they so willing critique to all living hell and back. It's supposed to be "on the behalf of women's movements" but this act directly correlates to the opposite! I believe that I have said enough here, I want to move on to my next section.
Part 2: Why is Patriarchy a possibly superior option?
I believe that Patriarchy is a superior option to Feminism in multiple ways. I will highlight one now. Men have built and have the minds and overall brawn for this type of suitable society. Some people believe that Patriarchy is a fundamental shift of the sex's. One being automatically superior to the other. I don't believe this, at least not my version. I have looked for this version, and I believe that it is the more radical shifted type. Similar to the Far-Right in nature. Patriarchy, at least to me, is NOT saying that men are the superior sex. As much as users here hate to say it, I believe that some sort of balance could work out. Not necessarily a shift, but more so an understanding that Men SHOULD be the one's doing the heavy lifting and working and also understanding that Men should be getting rewarded. We quite literally have done most of the heavy lifting to get to this point. White people have built the TV, Internet, and multiple other systems. No different here, except for a larger population. As we can very well see, when women tend to get into these male-centered spaces (mind you, firmly established as such beforehand.) All hell breaks loose. With the Women's unhampered emotions, it can cause strikes and chaos for the other men trying to swoon on in for the the big girl. Patriarchy makes sure to stop this by:
1: Keeping Women in a secular and established Union for them. This does not mean that their rights to voting, speaking, freedom, or other sources *need* to be taken away. It means that we are kept in our own centers and the other sex is prohibited from entering. What I believe this does is equality at a global and baseline feel. It doesn't need to have a manufactured, faked, and often failed system to prove it's worth. It works on it's own and their are no objections. There would be multiple different stations (so to speak) for the women to work at. Groups, in other words. I still do believe some Restrictions need to happen for women and men. Certain Political Parties should be restricted, for example.
2: There would be fewer genuine gender wars and potential for violence. People would understand that one sex would be doing the heavy lifting. Whilst also having checks and balances for both groups. I don't like Centrism at all, so do not get it twisted. I am not saying that. I am saying that both sexes need to understand that we aren't compatible on this type of level any further.
3: We could begin to give understanding and courses to the people who NEED it without an ENFORCEMENT of such radical behavior (Feminism). Women to Women, Men to Men. As the saying goes, for example. 90% of male therapists are useless and 100% of female therapists are useless for Incels like us. That 10% could be firmly expanded and encroached upon. That way, we all seem to find our own way to get what we need, want or desire without breaking anything.
Some, may say that Patriarchy is still bad because instead of *all* men being better, it's only a *few*. You'd be right, but I also must ask, would this not be approachable by a potential political party shift? An Oligarchy or Capitalistic system has (unfortunately) lead us to where we are now. Democratic is equally as shit, in my eyes. We need a new system, period. I have not found a concluding option to this. Anarchism, Hoppeanism, and Anarchy Monarchism are all options I have considered. Personally, leaning towards Hoppeanism myself. It preserves self-ownership to a good degree whilst not also hitting the cringe high notes of Democracy or others. It has many other possibles like Smaller City-States, ruling out One-World Government and others. Anti-LGBT (Literally) and much more. All that I can say are based indeed.
I hope I have been able to establish my firm position on why I think this new Feminism is not inherently at all a good thing. And why a potential shift may be a good, or even great thing. I could have covered much more, and probably will at some point. If you have any questions, objections, or statements of your own, please feel free to add them! I will update this with the title by calling it "(Part 1") if I do, so keep your eyes out! Thank you so much for reading fellow incels, and bye!
Sources:
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/326414992_Feminist_Censorship
https://www.crusadeforthevote.org/19-amendment
https://anthroholic.com/problems-with-modern-feminism
https://polcompball.wikitide.org/wiki/Hoppeanism#Anti-LGBT (Yes, I know it's cringe as shit, but it's legit the only one I could find for a different source other then mine, sorry
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcC-6Eea1w8
(Decent video on Anarchy-Captalistism)
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