Serious “Failure” of Eastern values in western culture

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

It is not a mystery that Asian/Indian men in the west struggle the most in modern dating, and I do not think it is a coincidence that Asian/Indian men are also over-represented in high education particularly in the STEM fields.

It seems obvious to me, that those Asian/Indian men who did not struggle in the west, are typically adopted or completely westernized (twinkie/banana). Those who came from traditional families typically have to go AGAINST what their parents tell them to find sexual success. The more the son obeyed the traditionalist parents, the less successful with women they are(unless they are physically attractive enough to stand out)

the asian logic of study hard in STEM field, get a good job, make money, then women will be naturally attracted to you does not work in the west as due to feminism, women no longer depend on men for economic reliance, as they can depend on the state to provide while they fuck bad boys. Alpha men are no longer valued on there providing abilities, thats where betabuxx cucks come in.

The typical obedient Asian kid would be spending time studying Chemistry, physics, and calculus, preparing for their SATs and AP exams while his peers are getting high with friends, trying out for the track team, deciding who to ask for a date to the school dance, or who to hook up with after school.

Skills with the opposite sex takes a life time to accumulate. if you did not accumulate the skills early in life it is less likely for you to obtain skill later.

are Asian parents wrong to bring their values here? Are the twinkies/bananas right to rebel?

 

[happiless]

You said it well yourself: You can polish a turd as much as you want, but at the end of the day its still a turd.

A lifetime of polishing a turd (developing social skills) won't make an ugly Asian or curry less ugly.

 

[Hardworkingcel]

The failure occurs because we are talking about completely different sets of values. The West values free competition and individualism because it benefits its native population, which has the best genetic attributes for this type of society (white males are taller than average, prettier than average, more socially fit, more financially stable). When an ethnic from a less liberal country comes to the West, he has an enormous difficulty adapting. In their countries of origin, ethnic men were benefited by cultural barriers and state laws that reduced the problems caused by their genetic condition such as arranged marriages, lower ages of consent, lack of democracy etc.

But when they come to the West, they face a real law of the jungle. The most prominent men (usually white) have absolute powers to do whatever they want without being penalized for it.
East Asian men (who are ricecels in the West) are one of those who are suffering the most. The very fact that they are shorter than whites and blacks already puts them at a huge disadvantage. Add this to the fact that many of them are shy, socially inept. Then you have the formula for sexual failure with women. Imagine how different is the life of an average asian men and the life of an average asian woman. The Asian man is expected, by default, to be a genius of the stem field. He goes to college, spends 4 years studying and living enormous stress levels. And then he will get a stressful job at some technology company. Only then can he be considered a human being. Meanwhile, the Asian woman is fucking a different white guy every week while bashing the asians.

 

[PM_ME_STRIPPERS]

The failure occurs because we are talking about completely different sets of values. The West values free competition and individualism because it benefits its native population, which has the best genetic attributes for this type of society (white males are taller than average, prettier than average, more socially fit, more financially stable). When an ethnic from a less liberal country comes to the West, he has an enormous difficulty adapting. In their countries of origin, ethnic men were benefited by cultural barriers and state laws that reduced the problems caused by their genetic condition such as arranged marriages, lower ages of consent, lack of democracy etc.

But when they come to the West, they face a real law of the jungle. The most prominent men (usually white) have absolute powers to do whatever they want without being penalized for it.
East Asian men (who are ricecels in the West) are one of those who are suffering the most. The very fact that they are shorter than whites and blacks already puts them at a huge disadvantage. Add this to the fact that many of them are shy, socially inept. Then you have the formula for sexual failure with women. Imagine how different is the life of an average asian men and the life of an average asian woman. The Asian man is expected, by default, to be a genius of the stem field. He goes to college, spends 4 years studying and living enormous stress levels. And then he will get a stressful job at some technology company. Only then can he be considered a human being. Meanwhile, the Asian woman is fucking a different white guy every week while bashing the asians.

yes true

 

[Mainländer]

Careermaxxing is meme. It'll at best grant you an old used up whore to betabuxx.

The only thing that generates attraction is attractiveness.