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I have been reading this thread:
https://incels.is/threads/girls-are-getting-desensitised-to-good-looking-guys-now-too.100451/
And it voices a recurring theme among Chadfishers on this site that even Chadfishing is rapidly becoming more difficult as women respond less and less to even the highest tier Chads.
Many people have suggested that the current trends in inceldom and hypergamy will lead to a society where women continue fucking at record rates, but do so in harems with top Chads fucking all of them.
I now actually am beginning to think this is unlikely, and far more likely (and almost certain) is that we are heading the way of Japan, where women lose interest in sex altogether. According to the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA): In Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]."
When you look at the graphs of sexual activity in America, you can see that although it is rising slower, female celibacy is rising as well:
We must understand what has actually happened in Japan if we are to understand what is happening to the rest of us now. One website attempted to analyze the data from a survey on global sex rates and sexual satisfaction against other known data like fertility rates, IQ, work hours, economic growth, and the "gender gap" (feminist term for "gender inequality"):
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/top5-mistakes-journalists-make-about-sexless-japan
It's an interesting article. The only association they can find to any extent is that as countries go up in IQ (ie. more educated/advanced), sex rates drop. But this does not come close to explaining the situation in Japan, where IQ rates match those of Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. and there are no equivalently severe celibacy problems. The article concludes there must be something unique about Japanese culture that has led to their problems.
So I began pondering: What is the fundamental unique cultural element that Japan has had for decades no other country has adopted to the same extent?
Female worship: It is an intrinsic part of Japanese Culture and has been for decades, more so than any other nation.
A few examples:
1) Buying Women's Dirty Panties
Japanese men had been buying used women's dirty panties in back alley vending machines for decades until the government cracked down on the practice in real life. They are still buying women's dirty underwear from online sites in massive quantities. Story about the history of this here.
2) Eating Food Off Naked Women
"Nyotaimori often referred to as "body sushi", is the Japanese practice of serving sashimi or sushi from the naked body of a woman." This is an ancient Japanese practice that began with the samurai and involves treating women's bodies like living art.
3) Paying to Hug Women
Japanese men have taken to paying high rates to just hug or lie in the same area of women. (This becomes a chicken and egg problem - it is hard to say to what extent this type of behavior is causing the problem, vs. how much is simply an end result of the problem.)
What this alone tells Japanese women is:
The Problem With Female Worship:
The biggest problem with this type of culture is this: Women are not sexually aroused by being worshiped. They are aroused by being degraded.
Women are the highest consumers of rape and sexual abuse porn:
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn
Women find men they perceive as potential "enemies" more sexually arousing:
Women find combative and aggressive men attractive:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men
End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:
1) They receive all the validation they need from the worship. Women usually need to use sex to get their validation. But when all they have to do is open their phone or walk by a used panty store to remind themselves of how valued they are, they no longer need to work for male attention or provide men with sex to feel wanted.
2) They are directly turned off sexually by the worship. Note that in Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]." Women actually start to despise the concept of sex when they are overly worshiped.
Solution
I don't see one. I don't see how we stop the worship of women. But it's clearly bad for both genders. Women lose interest in sex and even become repulsed by the concept. Men can no longer get sex. Everyone loses.
And yet if the Chadfishing experiments and NORC GSS stats are any indication, this is where we're heading.
https://incels.is/threads/girls-are-getting-desensitised-to-good-looking-guys-now-too.100451/
And it voices a recurring theme among Chadfishers on this site that even Chadfishing is rapidly becoming more difficult as women respond less and less to even the highest tier Chads.
Many people have suggested that the current trends in inceldom and hypergamy will lead to a society where women continue fucking at record rates, but do so in harems with top Chads fucking all of them.
I now actually am beginning to think this is unlikely, and far more likely (and almost certain) is that we are heading the way of Japan, where women lose interest in sex altogether. According to the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA): In Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]."
When you look at the graphs of sexual activity in America, you can see that although it is rising slower, female celibacy is rising as well:
We must understand what has actually happened in Japan if we are to understand what is happening to the rest of us now. One website attempted to analyze the data from a survey on global sex rates and sexual satisfaction against other known data like fertility rates, IQ, work hours, economic growth, and the "gender gap" (feminist term for "gender inequality"):
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/top5-mistakes-journalists-make-about-sexless-japan
It's an interesting article. The only association they can find to any extent is that as countries go up in IQ (ie. more educated/advanced), sex rates drop. But this does not come close to explaining the situation in Japan, where IQ rates match those of Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. and there are no equivalently severe celibacy problems. The article concludes there must be something unique about Japanese culture that has led to their problems.
So I began pondering: What is the fundamental unique cultural element that Japan has had for decades no other country has adopted to the same extent?
Female worship: It is an intrinsic part of Japanese Culture and has been for decades, more so than any other nation.
A few examples:
1) Buying Women's Dirty Panties
Japanese men had been buying used women's dirty panties in back alley vending machines for decades until the government cracked down on the practice in real life. They are still buying women's dirty underwear from online sites in massive quantities. Story about the history of this here.
2) Eating Food Off Naked Women
"Nyotaimori often referred to as "body sushi", is the Japanese practice of serving sashimi or sushi from the naked body of a woman." This is an ancient Japanese practice that began with the samurai and involves treating women's bodies like living art.
3) Paying to Hug Women
Japanese men have taken to paying high rates to just hug or lie in the same area of women. (This becomes a chicken and egg problem - it is hard to say to what extent this type of behavior is causing the problem, vs. how much is simply an end result of the problem.)
What this alone tells Japanese women is:
- Even their shit stained dirty underwear have massive value.
- They can lie on a table and do nothing and still be worshiped.
- Men are so desperate for them they will pay just for hugs.
The Problem With Female Worship:
The biggest problem with this type of culture is this: Women are not sexually aroused by being worshiped. They are aroused by being degraded.
Women are the highest consumers of rape and sexual abuse porn:
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn
Women find men they perceive as potential "enemies" more sexually arousing:
Women find combative and aggressive men attractive:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men
End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:
1) They receive all the validation they need from the worship. Women usually need to use sex to get their validation. But when all they have to do is open their phone or walk by a used panty store to remind themselves of how valued they are, they no longer need to work for male attention or provide men with sex to feel wanted.
2) They are directly turned off sexually by the worship. Note that in Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]." Women actually start to despise the concept of sex when they are overly worshiped.
Solution
I don't see one. I don't see how we stop the worship of women. But it's clearly bad for both genders. Women lose interest in sex and even become repulsed by the concept. Men can no longer get sex. Everyone loses.
And yet if the Chadfishing experiments and NORC GSS stats are any indication, this is where we're heading.
