[Blackpill] Excess Female Validation is the Fundamental Cause of Inceldom and Sexual Decline (see Japan for proof)

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#1
I have been reading this thread:
https://incels.is/threads/girls-are-getting-desensitised-to-good-looking-guys-now-too.100451/

And it voices a recurring theme among Chadfishers on this site that even Chadfishing is rapidly becoming more difficult as women respond less and less to even the highest tier Chads.

Many people have suggested that the current trends in inceldom and hypergamy will lead to a society where women continue fucking at record rates, but do so in harems with top Chads fucking all of them.

I now actually am beginning to think this is unlikely, and far more likely (and almost certain) is that we are heading the way of Japan, where women lose interest in sex altogether. According to the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA): In Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]."

When you look at the graphs of sexual activity in America, you can see that although it is rising slower, female celibacy is rising as well:

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We must understand what has actually happened in Japan if we are to understand what is happening to the rest of us now. One website attempted to analyze the data from a survey on global sex rates and sexual satisfaction against other known data like fertility rates, IQ, work hours, economic growth, and the "gender gap" (feminist term for "gender inequality"):
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/top5-mistakes-journalists-make-about-sexless-japan

It's an interesting article. The only association they can find to any extent is that as countries go up in IQ (ie. more educated/advanced), sex rates drop. But this does not come close to explaining the situation in Japan, where IQ rates match those of Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. and there are no equivalently severe celibacy problems. The article concludes there must be something unique about Japanese culture that has led to their problems.

So I began pondering: What is the fundamental unique cultural element that Japan has had for decades no other country has adopted to the same extent?

Female worship: It is an intrinsic part of Japanese Culture and has been for decades, more so than any other nation.

A few examples:

1) Buying Women's Dirty Panties
Japanese men had been buying used women's dirty panties in back alley vending machines for decades until the government cracked down on the practice in real life. They are still buying women's dirty underwear from online sites in massive quantities. Story about the history of this here.

2) Eating Food Off Naked Women
"Nyotaimori often referred to as "body sushi", is the Japanese practice of serving sashimi or sushi from the naked body of a woman." This is an ancient Japanese practice that began with the samurai and involves treating women's bodies like living art.

3) Paying to Hug Women
Japanese men have taken to paying high rates to just hug or lie in the same area of women. (This becomes a chicken and egg problem - it is hard to say to what extent this type of behavior is causing the problem, vs. how much is simply an end result of the problem.)

What this alone tells Japanese women is:
  • Even their shit stained dirty underwear have massive value.
  • They can lie on a table and do nothing and still be worshiped.
  • Men are so desperate for them they will pay just for hugs.

The Problem With Female Worship:
The biggest problem with this type of culture is this: Women are not sexually aroused by being worshiped. They are aroused by being degraded.

Women are the highest consumers of rape and sexual abuse porn:
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn

Women find men they perceive as potential "enemies" more sexually arousing:
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Women find combative and aggressive men attractive:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men

End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:

1) They receive all the validation they need from the worship. Women usually need to use sex to get their validation. But when all they have to do is open their phone or walk by a used panty store to remind themselves of how valued they are, they no longer need to work for male attention or provide men with sex to feel wanted.

2) They are directly turned off sexually by the worship. Note that in Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]." Women actually start to despise the concept of sex when they are overly worshiped.

Solution
I don't see one. I don't see how we stop the worship of women. But it's clearly bad for both genders. Women lose interest in sex and even become repulsed by the concept. Men can no longer get sex. Everyone loses.

And yet if the Chadfishing experiments and NORC GSS stats are any indication, this is where we're heading.
 

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#2
I have been reading this thread:
https://incels.is/threads/girls-are-getting-desensitised-to-good-looking-guys-now-too.100451/

And it voices a recurring theme among Chadfishers on this site that even Chadfishing is rapidly becoming more difficult as women respond less and less to even the highest tier Chads.

Many people have suggested that the current trends in inceldom and hypergamy will lead to a society where women continue fucking at record rates, but do so in harems with top Chads fucking all of them.

I now actually am beginning to think this is unlikely, and far more likely (and almost certain) is that we are heading the way of Japan, where women lose interest in sex altogether. According to the Japan Family Planning Association (JFPA): In Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]."

When you look at the graphs of sexual activity in America, you can see that although it is rising slower, female celibacy is rising as well:

proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fpbs.twimg.com%2Fmedia%2FDv7DkkaV4AEuVrm.jpg%3Alarge&hash=bc738643a8a64a275023a3cc7d0bf142


We must understand what has actually happened in Japan if we are to understand what is happening to the rest of us now. One website attempted to analyze the data from a survey on global sex rates and sexual satisfaction against other known data like fertility rates, IQ, work hours, economic growth, and the "gender gap" (feminist term for "gender inequality"):
http://www.yutaaoki.com/blog/top5-mistakes-journalists-make-about-sexless-japan

It's an interesting article. The only association they can find to any extent is that as countries go up in IQ (ie. more educated/advanced), sex rates drop. But this does not come close to explaining the situation in Japan, where IQ rates match those of Hong Kong, Singapore, etc. and there are no equivalently severe celibacy problems. The article concludes there must be something unique about Japanese culture that has led to their problems.

So I began pondering: What is the fundamental unique cultural element that Japan has had for decades no other country has adopted to the same extent?

Female worship: It is an intrinsic part of Japanese Culture and has been for decades, more so than any other nation.

A few examples:

1) Buying Women's Dirty Panties
Japanese men had been buying used women's dirty panties in back alley vending machines for decades until the government cracked down on the practice in real life. They are still buying women's dirty underwear from online sites in massive quantities. Story about the history of this here.

2) Eating Food Off Naked Women
"Nyotaimori often referred to as "body sushi", is the Japanese practice of serving sashimi or sushi from the naked body of a woman." This is an ancient Japanese practice that began with the samurai and involves treating women's bodies like living art.

3) Paying to Hug Women
Japanese men have taken to paying high rates to just hug or lie in the same area of women. (This becomes a chicken and egg problem - it is hard to say to what extent this type of behavior is causing the problem, vs. how much is simply an end result of the problem.)

What this alone tells Japanese women is:
  • Even their shit stained dirty underwear have massive value.
  • They can lie on a table and do nothing and still be worshiped.
  • Men are so desperate for them they will pay just for hugs.

The Problem With Female Worship:
The biggest problem with this type of culture is this: Women are not sexually aroused by being worshiped. They are aroused by being degraded.

Women are the highest consumers of rape and sexual abuse porn:
https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/bm9w7v/why-are-so-many-women-searching-for-ultra-violent-porn

Women find men they perceive as potential "enemies" more sexually arousing:
proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fstyles.redditmedia.com%2Ft5_hakn8%2Fstyles%2Fimage_widget_2bqeb0l3kqz01.png&hash=cb6b8cd967f7716ef3f969d6ac941391


Women find combative and aggressive men attractive:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men

End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:

1) They receive all the validation they need from the worship. Women usually need to use sex to get their validation. But when all they have to do is open their phone or walk by a used panty store to remind themselves of how valued they are, they no longer need to work for male attention or provide men with sex to feel wanted.

2) They are directly turned off sexually by the worship. Note that in Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]." Women actually start to despise the concept of sex when they are overly worshiped.

Solution
I don't see one. I don't see how we stop the worship of women. But it's clearly bad for both genders. Women lose interest in sex and even become repulsed by the concept. Men can no longer get sex. Everyone loses.

And yet if the Chadfishing experiments and NORC GSS stats are any indication, this is where we're heading.
been trying to say this for a while but atleast you provided the graphs too
tldr: stop worshipping females :soy::soy: and shit gets better
 

Red Shambhala

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End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:

1) They receive all the validation they need from the worship. Women usually need to use sex to get their validation. But when all they have to do is open their phone or walk by a used panty store to remind themselves of how valued they are, they no longer need to work for male attention or provide men with sex to feel wanted.

2) They are directly turned off sexually by the worship. Note that in Japan, 45 percent of women aged 16-24 “were not interested in or despised sexual contact [with others]." Women actually start to despise the concept of sex when they are overly worshiped.

Solution
I don't see one.
Possible, yes. Gynocentrism might be self-destructive in the way that it leads to a society out of which women essentially drop out, too. Once you take into consideration what women want (or what they believe to be want) your society is basically lost. Women are like a burden.
 
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I have been reading this thread:

End Outcome
When you have a society that worships women by default, women experience two things:
No government in the world will let their voter base decrease willingly. Sooner or later they'll start lashing out and force women to breed.
 
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I think this is true, women get ALL Their validation from MILLIONS of people on social media now.

Have u guys even tried texting a foid , even with a catfish chad? they are incredible slow to answer and will diss you at any moment as soon as u say something wrong.

Read my thread who he linked in the OP, its insane, im getting blocked by fat girls now :S what the FUCK is happening in the west!!
 

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women get ALL Their validation from MILLIONS of people on social media now.
Unfortunatley, that's how it works. They can easily make a snap or post on Instagram how they were just prescribed Prozac or took an extra Advil to OD and have the advantage and power of millions of white knights comforting her for validation and girls calling her, "Strong and empowered."
 
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Im gonna post some of the girls in my thread later, u will NOT BELIEVE how ugly some of these girls are who diss my catfish SUPER chad.

And some girls are interested, they tell me im hot, so we exchange messenger or snap ... but then, when I message them there, they are soooo slow to respond, they dont initiate, dont ask any questions, they are not interested at all in ACTUALLY meeting up and getting dick, they dont give a fuck.

Back in the day, women had to spread their legs to get validated, thats what makes them horny I think . actual validation, I think theres a close relationship between validation and being horny for females .. thats why bad boys who call them all kinds of shit and degrade them get so many girls, cause they want their validation.

Now they get all their validation, the cup is full, its actually running over .. so they dont need men no more. Maybe once in a while they are horny, like a couple days each month cause of the cycle .. but the rest of the time they dont give a fuck.

So If CHAD gets ignored alot .. think about us then? Ugly males .. and even average males, what the fuck?
 

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This article was pure ragefuel!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/head-games/201305/the-allure-aggressive-men
"women will maximize their reproductive success by choosing a macho man as a short-term mate for his genes, and a less masculine man with a warmer personality for a long-term, invested partner."
In essence "Chad fucks, Beta buxx"

And we have seen plenty of members making threads with screenshots or videos of women with children demanding men to be their partner even though they have kids. They already fucked the dominant aggressive male (Chad) and got his good genes for a son so now they want a beta bucks to be a life long stable partner, none of this is of course new but it´s nice to have a study that backs it up.
 
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Im gonna post some of the girls in my thread later, u will NOT BELIEVE how ugly some of these girls are who diss my catfish SUPER chad.

And some girls are interested, they tell me im hot, so we exchange messenger or snap ... but then, when I message them there, they are soooo slow to respond, they dont initiate, dont ask any questions, they are not interested at all in ACTUALLY meeting up and getting dick, they dont give a fuck.

Back in the day, women had to spread their legs to get validated, thats what makes them horny I think . actual validation, I think theres a close relationship between validation and being horny for females .. thats why bad boys who call them all kinds of shit and degrade them get so many girls, cause they want their validation.

Now they get all their validation, the cup is full, its actually running over .. so they dont need men no more. Maybe once in a while they are horny, like a couple days each month cause of the cycle .. but the rest of the time they dont give a fuck.

So If CHAD gets ignored alot .. think about us then? Ugly males .. and even average males, what the fuck?
i already have trouble believing it and i made a post like this a week ago
 
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i already have trouble believing it and i made a post like this a week ago
What do u mean? U dont believe it or what?



If u think about it, where we come from, the ancestral enviroment .. it makes so much sense that women developed their sexuality to TRADE IT for validation, resources etc etc with males.

They basicly developed a primitive system in their brain flooding their pussy with blood when their brain sense they NEED TO DO SO to better their own life, AKA get males validation.

Now they get all the validaton they need .. so they arent as interested in actual fucking no more.

Holy shit this is crazy
 
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What do u mean? U dont believe it or what?



If u think about it, where we come from, the ancestral enviroment .. it makes so much sense that women developed their sexuality to TRADE IT for validation, resources etc etc with males.

They basicly developed a primitive system in their brain flooding their pussy with blood when their brain sense they NEED TO DO SO to better their own life, AKA get males validation.

Now they get all the validaton they need .. so they arent as interested in actual fucking no more.

Holy shit this is crazy
When I tried it, it was average to good looking women ignoring my chad, not fat / ugly ones.

Then again, I never messaged the ugly ones.
 

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