Once you are blackpilled to the bone and you realize that ascending will just lead to betabuxism and/or cuckism, your very motivation to get laid collapses and you lose any interest in foids. So you basically become a volcel
No man
Many arguments and examples in your paragraph I see
Yes bro
Ascending certainly does not lead to a healthy monogamous relationship, that's for sure, but that doesn't mean that my motivation to get laid collapses. I still want to fuck. Just have friends with benefits or one night stands.
I'm also currently at a point where I believe that looksmaxing could make me ascend, to be quite honest. It just takes time. I need a rhinoplasty, scar removal therapy, buccal fat removal, teeth whitening, colored contact lenses, gymmaxing (probably roids), possibly eyelid surgery and leg lengthening surgery and I will have the chance to ascend I believe.
Maybe I'm just coping though.
I'm also currently at a point where I believe that looksmaxing could make me ascend, to be quite honest. It just takes time. I need a rhinoplasty, scar removal therapy, buccal fat removal, teeth whitening, colored contact lenses, gymmaxing (probably roids), possibly eyelid surgery and leg lengthening surgery and I will have the chance to ascend I believe.
Maybe I'm just coping though.
you can't go incel -> volcel.
it doesn't make sense logically.
maybe in your mind you eventually consider yourself a volcel because you stopped trying but de facto you are still incel.
it doesn't make sense logically.
maybe in your mind you eventually consider yourself a volcel because you stopped trying but de facto you are still incel.
No, because you’re forced to give up. The fire and desire might lessen but it doesn’t go away. This is like saying most MGTOWs choose it, no, they’re MSTOW acting like they chose a life of celibacy/hookers.
To everyone : I never said that we chose our incel status. But at the end, in and vol merge into a single entity. You started incel, you become volcel but if you stop being volcel you will still be incel, and the cycle goes on and on
It's not that much. If I had the money, I could do all of that within 2 years.So many things ?
It's easier, just go to SEA!
The money is the main issue.
Going to SEA to get laid as an incel-tier looking guy is a waste of money.
I'd have to fuck prostitutes even there.
It's more logical to spend money on looksmaxing, so you have a permanently enhanced quality of life/confidence basically.
If JBW was true, which I do not believe in, I'd have fun fucking these girls for 2 weeks. After these two weeks I'd go back having wasted all the money on that trip and I'd still look ugly.
At first, I'll looksmax to the core and only after that I'll try to ascend.
Trying to ascend with my current looks is a waste of time, energy and money.
High IQ
The moment you realize you will be left with scraps, you lose all motivation to even compete.
Women are sociopathic sluts. If I do ascend then it will probably with a landwhale that will drain the life out of me and cheat on me with Chad. That’s not worth it.
It is over.
It is over.
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As an incel you dont have the capacity to get laid even if you try.
volcels could get some foids interested in them, but they dont pursue them.
volcels could get some foids interested in them, but they dont pursue them.
I'd say unless you're a severely deformed truecel you probably still have the chance to betabuxx an ugly postwall foid or fuck a landwhale, to this point you're a volcel if you refuse to do so (which I am).
This would make almost all incels volcels
I do think most incels can eventually get laid at least once in their life but choose not to out of self respect. This is what differs them from truecels who can never have sex no matter what.
Not me. I would have no problem with dating a fat girl.
Insightful post, OP. I think one issue might be that incels of differing ages are coming from somewhat different perspectives. Younger incels are keenly bothered by the throbbing urge for sexual union. But if you're an older than late 20s incel and you're blackpilled to the core, the thought of escaping inceldom should make you despair considering what will be required of you as a wage-cuck to attain it.
Very true
This resonates very strongly with me. After a few rejection when I start thinking about it logically (taking blackpill) I start losing interest in woman. I don't even get oneotis anymore.
right now i would betabux a 21 year old who had 3 previous bfs and no one night stands, my limits will probably get worse in the future
You described 95% of this forum except they don't need to be looksmaxxed. They are average which is good enough.
Same with me
It’s ok if not betabux (which girls needs betabux at 21?)
That makes sense
It's frustrating for truecels like me. If I had no deformity then I would not be here.
very poor ones, basically your only chance to meet a young girl jfl
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that is the definition of incel unfortunately. call yourself volcel if you can get any foid.
Foids are brutal, anything not very good and you're doomed
No betabux to no foid
I should have written it in that order : volcel = incel
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cope
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u cant just become volcel from incel
ur either incel or not
if u choose not to get laid due to lack of options(IE only through betabux or getting scraps/leftovers can u ascend) ur still incel
but if u choose not to get laid cuz u got a date but she is "ugly"(not fat or deformed, more like small tits, ass, or a few points below ur looks) ur volcel
ur either incel or not
if u choose not to get laid due to lack of options(IE only through betabux or getting scraps/leftovers can u ascend) ur still incel
but if u choose not to get laid cuz u got a date but she is "ugly"(not fat or deformed, more like small tits, ass, or a few points below ur looks) ur volcel
foids do in fact drop their standards as they get older and less attractive. But why the fuck would you want them at that point?
It's a case of a female like that being the least distasteful of limited options.
Cope
Better incel than cuck
Volcel if you don't kidnap a foid and keep her as your sex slave
As long as they are average-looking, they shouldn't complain about being "ugly."
I agree with the idea of a natural transition from incel to volcel, but not that we lose any interest in girls. We're hard-wired to find them physically attractive, and even if we're put off by the thought of being cucked, the physical attraction is still there, ingrained into us.
Personally, I'm in the transition phase. I've approached a lot of girls and I'll approach more in the future, but realistically I know it's not going to work. A return on investment analysis shows that it's not worth the colossal amount of effort needed to have any minuscule chance - so the tendency is to lean towards volceldom.
Personally, I'm in the transition phase. I've approached a lot of girls and I'll approach more in the future, but realistically I know it's not going to work. A return on investment analysis shows that it's not worth the colossal amount of effort needed to have any minuscule chance - so the tendency is to lean towards volceldom.
Ill fuck anything that walks. I mean it
Better volcel than cuck
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