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Theory Even if you ascended, you can't escape the Loser Pill

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If you're like me:
Loner
No friends
No family
Socially awkward
No interesting hobbies
Never go out
Sad and depressed
Only understand female intimacy transactionally

You got a girlfriend, but now there's the next hurdle: The Loser Pill.

You realise getting her makes you feel so relieved, but the rest is a slow, humiliating autopsy of your own worthlessness.

Social: She will ask about your friends. You will have to say the: "I have none." You will watch her eyes turn from curiosity to pity, then to disgust. Women are very social, but you are a social void. She'll want to go out on double dates. How will you explain that you can't? Because you're a social pariah with no circle. She will realize she's dating a ghost, and ghosts can't be brought to brunch.

Hobbies: "What do you do for fun?" The question will feel like a gun to your head. "I scroll .is and listen to Rehab". You have no life. You are a an empty warehouse. You are, fundamentally, a boring person. You can't build a relationship on shared misery.

Inexperience: You can try to hide it, but it will come out. You can't hide your awkward hands, your panic at intimacy, of a simple touch. It all screams one thing: NOBODY ELSE WANTED YOU. And then the hivemind logic kicks in: "If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.

If the only intimacy you've ever known is transactional, then you don't know how to be tender, you only know how to be a client. You don't know how to navigate mutual desire, you only know how to perform for a timer. This will seep out in every interaction. She will feel the ghost of a thousand other lonely men in your embrace, and she will know, on a primal level, that the only way you've ever gotten a woman is by paying her to tolerate you.

Getting a girlfriend was supposed to be the finish line, but the Loser Pill reveals it's just the starting line of a race you are fundamentally unequipped to run. You haven't solved your problems, you've just added an audience to them. The loneliness of being an incel might just be replaced with the deeper humiliation of being exposed as a loser and abandoned.
 
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@Julius1 he knows
 
Honestly without social circles how do some even expect maintain a relationship to begin with if they're not a chad of sorts :feelshmm:
 
Absolutely fucking brutal
 
Getting a girlfriend was supposed to be the finish line, but the Loser Pill reveals it's just the starting line of a race you are fundamentally unequipped to run. You haven't solved your problems, you've just added an audience to them. The loneliness of being an incel might just be replaced with the deeper humiliation of being exposed as a loser.
Very well said. Imagine someone like me would somehow find a gf at 25. Zero prior experience. It's over and that's the thing I have to accept now.
 
fucked up in every way
 
Damn, A brutal pill to swallow.
 
This is one of the most brutal threads I’ve read. Pin worthy.
 
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"If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.
That's why despite being pretty decent man, i probably won't ascend.
Life is just unfair.
 
Damn you really have no family at all? My parents aren’t alive anymore but I still have brothers.
 
If you're like me:
Loner
No friends
No family
Socially awkward
No interesting hobbies
Never go out
Sad and depressed
Only understand female intimacy transactionally

You got a girlfriend, but now there's the next hurdle: The Loser Pill.

You realise getting her makes you feel so relieved, but the rest is a slow, humiliating autopsy of your own worthlessness.

Social: She will ask about your friends. You will have to say the: "I have none." You will watch her eyes turn from curiosity to pity, then to disgust. Women are very social, but you are a social void. She'll want to go out on double dates. How will you explain that you can't? Because you're a social pariah with no circle. She will realize she's dating a ghost, and ghosts can't be brought to brunch.

Hobbies: "What do you do for fun?" The question will feel like a gun to your head. "I scroll .is and listen to Rehab". You have no life. You are a an empty warehouse. You are, fundamentally, a boring person. You can't build a relationship on shared misery.

Inexperience: You can try to hide it, but it will come out. You can't hide your awkward hands, your panic at intimacy, of a simple touch. It all screams one thing: NOBODY ELSE WANTED YOU. And then the hivemind logic kicks in: "If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.

If the only intimacy you've ever known is transactional, then don't know how to be tender, you only know how to be a client. You don't know how to navigate mutual desire, you only know how to perform for a timer. This will seep out in every interaction. She will feel the ghost of a thousand other lonely men in your embrace, and she will know, on a primal level, that the only way you've ever gotten a woman is by paying her to tolerate you.

Getting a girlfriend was supposed to be the finish line, but the Loser Pill reveals it's just the starting line of a race you are fundamentally unequipped to run. You haven't solved your problems, you've just added an audience to them. The loneliness of being an incel might just be replaced with the deeper humiliation of being exposed as a loser.
once you don the mask of the blackpiller, it can't come off. nor do you want it to. it feels safe. so safe...
 
None of this matters if her pussy tingles because you're the most attractive man she can get.

This is why you don't try to get a girlfriend. If you force things, then you'll face all these struggles.
 
You will watch her eyes turn from curiosity to pity, then to disgust.
True. Genuine foid's reaction when learning that the man next to her has no friends (from a real documentary):
 
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I want a loser girl so we can be losers together

(she does not exist)
 
Inexperience: You can try to hide it, but it will come out. You can't hide your awkward hands, your panic at intimacy, of a simple touch. It all screams one thing: NOBODY ELSE WANTED YOU. And then the hivemind logic kicks in: "If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.

If the only intimacy you've ever known is transactional, then you don't know how to be tender, you only know how to be a client. You don't know how to navigate mutual desire, you only know how to perform for a timer. This will seep out in every interaction. She will feel the ghost of a thousand other lonely men in your embrace, and she will know, on a primal level, that the only way you've ever gotten a woman is by paying her to tolerate you
For me this is by far the worst of all.
You are supposed to show intimacy for the first time in your life, and vulnerability for it to be honest, but not weakness. Also just knowing how to smile, how to not be too much, how to make her laugh, when to touch her, how to touch her etc. All of that constantly on and off, knowing how to do it in all situations, having the confidence to not make it awkward. And just showing appreciation is hard. For me even her being intimate towards me would send me into shock. I can't even start about emotions. Those I can't even comprehend in theory.
And forget about it if you are awkward at all. Ever. That just screams NO to foids.
 
Pretty much, I’m nearly 26 and my life was mostly a void, if it wasn’t a void it was just miserable, no foid would want to deal with a bitter angry miserable man like me. I have the personality of an angry old man.

“Just have experience bro” as they say but what if you couldn’t get any experience? What happens then? “Ohhh you’re still young you got time” no, no I don’t, my time ran out as soon as I got shat out into this gay earth.
 
Aww come on just pretend you have all that bro!!! Acting skills bro!!!
 
Si eres como yo:
Solitario
Sin amigos
Sin familia
Socialmente torpe
No tengo pasatiempos interesantes
Nunca salgas
Triste y deprimido
Entender la intimidad femenina sólo transaccionalmente

Tienes novia, pero ahora hay un obstáculo más: La píldora del perdedor.

Te das cuenta de que conseguirla te hace sentir muy aliviado, pero el resto es una autopsia lenta y humillante de tu propia inutilidad.

Social: Te preguntará por tus amigos. Tendrás que decir: "No tengo ninguno". Verás cómo su mirada pasa de la curiosidad a la lástima, y luego al asco. Las mujeres son muy sociables, pero tú eres un vacío social. Querrá citas tener dobles. ¿Cómo le explicarás que no puedes? Porque eres una paria social sin círculo. Se dará cuenta de que está saliendo con un fantasma, y los fantasmas no se pueden llevar a un brunch.

Aficiones: "¿Qué haces para divertirte?" La pregunta te parecerá como un disparo en la cabeza. "Me desplazo por .is y escucho Rehab". No tienes vida. Eres un almacén vacío. Eres, en el fondo, una persona aburrida. No se puede construir una relación sobre la miseria compartida.

Inexperiencia: Puedes intentar ocultarlo, pero saldrá a la luz. No puedes ocultar tus manos torpes, tu pánico a la intimidad, a un simple roce. Todo grita una cosa: NADIE MÁS TE DESEO. Y entonces entra en juego la lógica de la mente colectiva: "Si ninguna otra mujer lo quiso, debe haber una razón. ¿Qué saben ellas que yo no?". No eres un premio, eres un producto sospechosamente no comprado.

Si la única intimidad que tiene conocido es transaccional, entonces no sabes ser tierno, solo sabes ser un cliente. No sabes cómo gestionar el deseo mutuo, solo sabes actuar por tiempo limitado. Esto se notará en cada interacción. Sentirá el fantasma de mil hombres solitarios en tus brazos, y sabrá, en un nivel primario, que la única manera de conquistar a una mujer es pagándole para que te tolere.

Conseguir una novia se suponía que era la meta, pero la Píldora del Perdedor revela que es solo la línea de salida de una carrera para la que, principalmente, no estás preparado. No has resuelto tus problemas, solo les has añadido un público. La soledad de ser un incel podría ser reemplazada por la humillación más profunda de ser expuesto como un perdedor y abandonado.
 
If you're like me:
Loner
No friends
No family
Socially awkward
No interesting hobbies
Never go out
Sad and depressed
Only understand female intimacy transactionally

You got a girlfriend, but now there's the next hurdle: The Loser Pill.

You realise getting her makes you feel so relieved, but the rest is a slow, humiliating autopsy of your own worthlessness.

Social: She will ask about your friends. You will have to say the: "I have none." You will watch her eyes turn from curiosity to pity, then to disgust. Women are very social, but you are a social void. She'll want to go out on double dates. How will you explain that you can't? Because you're a social pariah with no circle. She will realize she's dating a ghost, and ghosts can't be brought to brunch.

Hobbies: "What do you do for fun?" The question will feel like a gun to your head. "I scroll .is and listen to Rehab". You have no life. You are a an empty warehouse. You are, fundamentally, a boring person. You can't build a relationship on shared misery.

Inexperience: You can try to hide it, but it will come out. You can't hide your awkward hands, your panic at intimacy, of a simple touch. It all screams one thing: NOBODY ELSE WANTED YOU. And then the hivemind logic kicks in: "If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.

If the only intimacy you've ever known is transactional, then you don't know how to be tender, you only know how to be a client. You don't know how to navigate mutual desire, you only know how to perform for a timer. This will seep out in every interaction. She will feel the ghost of a thousand other lonely men in your embrace, and she will know, on a primal level, that the only way you've ever gotten a woman is by paying her to tolerate you.

Getting a girlfriend was supposed to be the finish line, but the Loser Pill reveals it's just the starting line of a race you are fundamentally unequipped to run. You haven't solved your problems, you've just added an audience to them. The loneliness of being an incel might just be replaced with the deeper humiliation of being exposed as a loser and abandoned.
this is all true and not often said
our lives are fated to continue as they have been
 
I want a loser girl so we can be losers together

(she does not exist)
"Loser" girls are NEETs and stoners and drug addicts pissy because Chad doesn't commit.

They hate us because we're ugly.
 
Damn you really have no family at all? My parents aren’t alive anymore but I still have brothers.
Technically I do but they don't like me. Mother was psycho and abusive. Dad was chronically embarrassed and ashamed of me. Ain't seen them in years. Trash South Asian parenting
 
Inexperience: You can try to hide it, but it will come out. You can't hide your awkward hands, your panic at intimacy, of a simple touch. It all screams one thing: NOBODY ELSE WANTED YOU. And then the hivemind logic kicks in: "If no other woman wanted him, there must be a reason. What do they know that I don't?" You are not a prize, you are a suspiciously unpurchased product.
Plus, what about sexual inexperience? You might not even get through the act of sex itself as your partner might think that you are hopelessly bad at it for how old you are. There is a non-zero chance that she will basically call it off and either leave or tell you to go home halfway through because she will probably think that your pathetic attempts at sex are little more than that of a gropefest in the backseat of a 16-year-old's car in a parking lot.

You would be expected to know what you are doing and your partner probably won't have the patience to hold somebody's hand decades after most people have moved past the basics in terms of sexual experience.
 
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Plus, what about sexual inexperience? You might not even get through the act of sex itself as your partner might think that you are hopelessly bad at it for how old you are. There is a non-zero chance that she will basically call it off and either leave or tell you to go home halfway through because she will probably think that your pathetic attempts at sex are little more than that of a gropefest in the backseat of a 16-year-old's car in a parking lot.

You would be expected to know what you are doing and your partner probably won't have the patience to hold somebody's hand decades after most people have moved past the basics in terms of sexual experience.
Yeah, you'll have no clue how to deal with the starfish she'll likely be.
 
You would be expected to know what you are doing and your partner probably won't have the patience to hold somebody's hand decades after most people have moved past the basics in terms of sexual experience.
This post made me feel so fucking bad, as always as i realise how emotionally-sexually distant i am from everyone, including fucking highschool teenagers.
 
This post made me feel so fucking bad, as always as i realise how emotionally-sexually distant i am from everyone, including fucking highschool teenagers.

I might have a hypothetical excuse for when something like this arises. You could try saying that you originally wanted to be a Catholic priest but then changed your mind and left seminary school to explain away the huge gap in our sexual résumés. :feelshaha:
 
I might have a hypothetical excuse for when something like this arises. You could try saying that you originally wanted to be a Catholic priest but then changed your mind and left seminary school to explain away the huge gap in our sexual résumés. :feelshaha:
It could work for ultra low iq foids, but smarter ones knows how priests are usually emotional and socially connected people.
Also, i'm very bad liar when i want to invite someone into my private life. I just fucking can't go catfishing when i want serious relationship.
 
It could work for ultra low iq foids, but smarter ones knows how priests are usually emotional and socially connected people.
Also, i'm very bad liar when i want to invite someone into my private life. I just fucking can't go catfishing when i want serious relationship.
I know one way being a catholic priest allows you to ascend :feelsLSD:
 
 
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Damn you really have no family at all? My parents aren’t alive anymore but I still have brothers.
My parents are dead, no siblings, haven't communicated with any other family in like 25 years.
 
Very brutal read, daily dose of blackpill
 
My parents are dead, no siblings, haven't communicated with any other family in like 25 years.
This is why I’m glad to have brothers. If I didn’t have them, I would talk to absolutely nobody.
 
This is another reason why ascension is a myth. You have literally nothing to show for
 
Chad doesn't need friends and hobbies tho
 
This is why I’m glad to have brothers. If I didn’t have them, I would talk to absolutely nobody.
I have a half brother (dad's side) but I haven't spoken to him since my dad died when I was 10, and he was like 23 years older than me. I don't know if that's normal or not. My mom told me a half brother doesn't mean anything.
 
Over for failed normies also
 
I have a half brother (dad's side) but I haven't spoken to him since my dad died when I was 10, and he was like 23 years older than me. I don't know if that's normal or not. My mom told me a half brother doesn't mean anything.
Sounds to me like your mom was angry about your father having a child with another woman.
 
Fuark bro this is so real but then again if u ascend to cl+ aint no woman gonna gaf abt this pill if anything theyll want to lock u up in their basement lol
 
Fuark bro this is so real but then again if u ascend to cl+ aint no woman gonna gaf abt this pill if anything theyll want to lock u up in their basement lol
No, this is more likely to happen if you did "ascend" and then she might even tell all of her friends IRL or on social media for more humiliation at your expense.



Nobody is going to want to deal with a sexual n00b after college.
 
None of this matters if her pussy tingles because you're the most attractive man she can get.

This is why you don't try to get a girlfriend. If you force things, then you'll face all these struggles.
 

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