Blackpill Even ascending at 18-22 is TOO LATE. Only high school matters.
Why do people obsess over "socially catching up" to others? The only thing that matters is are you easily able to attract women or not. Nothing else.
To add on, this is dramatic. the whole concept of "Past highschool it's over" is something I disagree with, not that I care at all but if it were me I wouldn't care, better to have gotten it late than to not have gotten it at all. additionally, why would this matter unless you're attempting to parade around your school with you and your girlfriend like you're the royal family?
Precisely. Let's say you were a virgin throughout high school and college, then you somehow become a Chad at 22, and start having lots of sex, eventually getting married at 35. Would you still have less social experience than someone who always was a Chad since they were 15? Yes. Would you still have less social experience than someone who has been a normie their whole life? No, you would have compensated for your lack of early relationships by having lots of sex later on. Even if you do have less social experience than a normie, would you honestly still give a fuck about comparing your experiences to others? Nah, absolutely not.
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Ascending at 18-22 is acceptable only if she's also a genuine virgin (rare these days)
Because not getting girls in your teens/prime means that yout genes are inheritably undesirable. While prime JBs fucked guys, you were left out of it and were teased for being a virgin loser. There is a reason girls hate being a guys first one and hate male virgins
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Honestly, I don't even remember high school other than the bullying (due to being curry and short) and trying to avoid it. Sex was the last thing on my mind in high school, I was more worried about getting beaten up. Like if someone said to me at 13 "all the bullying will stop until you finish school BUT you won't be able to have sex", I wouldn't even think about that tradeoff - sex was not on my mind until uni/college. Y'all are privileged af.
I didnt say he is a bad user. It just baffled me how someone can be on here for so long and never heard this term
This post is so retarded, have you ever actually talked to a normie before? Plenty of them didn’t even try to lose their virginity in highschool
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Dumb posts I know several people who didn't lose it until college.
Exactly, although it is becoming more common.
Still not the same thing tbh. It’s over after 18.
If you are not fucking 50 bitches per day at age 3 then it's over
Ok and? If you become attractive enough, no one will suspect you of being a virgin and you will stop giving a fuck about those girls who didn't fuck you back in school because you would be too busy fucking girls anyways.
Virgins and non virgins act different + late blooming wont undo the trauma that you went through. Stop the cope
Attractive people and non-attractive people act different.
I haven't been traumatized because I was never outright bullied either physically or mentally, just softly socially excluded which I managed by playing video games and reading a lot. I can guarantee you that the same can be said for many other users here, and yes late blooming WOULD actually change my outlook on life.
Missing out and being softly excluded knowing your peers were having fun without you is trauma in and of itself.
True, but still leagues better than being publicly humiliated and/or physically assaulted. I've seen this happen personally a few times and I prefer my fate.
Like, I am still resentful of my classmates who hung out with each other and went to parties without inviting me at all, even though I thought we actually were friends. But would I actually still give a fuck about that if tomorrow I became a 6'6 prettyboy who could fuck every girl I wanted? Nah, I would forget all of it in an instant. It's all envy really.
Oofy doofy is legit. I know many boring sub5 betas with mediocre jobs who are married. I don't know how they all do it, just be NT I guess.
Of course this does not necessarily mean the main reason we are in the circumstance we are in is because we are not neurotypical; what this demonstrates is that it could potentially be a significant or decisive factor to the extent we are. (while accounting for all other factors, like attractiveness and socioeconomic status) In reality, there are a variety of traits in a man that could cause a woman to either accept or reject him. (and this could change with circumstance, her sense of potential options, and how both the man and the woman change over time)
Broadly speaking, I would say the guys on this website are generally less neurotypical than is average for the population. (it's also worth mentioning it's self-fulfilling given how the internet is policed: things could've looked different before we were driven underground, like the earlier days of reddit.) But at the same time, normies are wrong to dismiss us on the notion "incels can't get laid because they're ugly — it's just because they're socially awkward, recluses, or autistic!" (I hear this all the time.) In reality, as is so often said, attractiveness/looks/height is simply the primary, decisive factor. (a very good-looking guy has an easier time getting laid even if he has little money, than an unattractive guy with money.) So oofy doofy only applies to average/unattractive/short men in the first place. The more attractive you are the more you get away with being "weird" or awkward to begin with. (I'm saying this goes for men and women, but needless to say it applies far more to women than it does to men, who are always held to a much higher standard by society.)
In other words, what you just said could be true, and normies could also be wrong to dismiss incels on the notion "you're not rejected because you're ugly or short, but because you're autistic" I mentioned above at the same time. They obviously just say this to imply it's our fault. (to the extent they say "autistic" instead of "awkward recluse with no social skills" it's just pretense of acknowledging "we are born with a mental disorder" which is actually much worse because it precludes the potential for us to change to the extent their description has validity.)
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I definitely agree with your point on that. I think the resentment would eventually wash away if my life did a complete 180 before the age of 22 or something. If and ONLY if I am a true chad. Not a normie. Not a high-tier normie. But a white gigachad on recruit difficulty.
I think in cases like ours where maybe a few fringecels do eventually escape inceldom after years of trying, only to end up with a girl who has dated 200 guys before settling down, or getting a few hookups here and there, it doesn't really compensate for all that suffering and social exclusion. Like the guy in my original story is still gonna have to face hurdles and stuff, and while his life is probably a little better than mine it's not gonna be good by any means. he's still gonna suffer tremendously socially.
Wrong only Elementary school matters. I know because I'm 9 & an Incel & I get height-mogged by 4 ft 7 boys in elementary school all the time & my onetis looksmatch does not like me it's so brutal. I'm on here to try & looksmatch in order to get my onetis looksmatch.
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KV at 25?
Not to mention, every girl already had her firsts long before we were in the question. First date to high school dance, first kiss, first time having sex, etc
you will just get lost in a sea of different guys in her mind. She will NEVER love you like her first love. You are nothing to her. Just another intermediate invisible NOBODY that will NEVER be remembered. You are NOTHING to her
i once listened to some eastern european guy on youtube escortcelling for the first time, he said developed feelings for the second one he visited. brutal stuff
men will fall for the first woman to give them even a shred of attention tbh
You definitely get socially fucked up by lack of experience with females in high school, but I could probably manage if I ascended in college.
Yep. Too many people fail to realize this.
There is basically no ascending. Same things that made you incel (LOOKS in 99.99999 percent of all cases) at young age make you incel later on. It's a constant state, not something that is changed by any events happening unless they greatly increase your sex appeal (LOOKS, HEIGHT).
It's all relative. I was never severely bullied, but no one really took me seriously in high school and as a result my teen years were extremely boring. Nothing interesting really happened during these years and I had a lot of time to think about what I was missing out on, but yeah, I would much rather be left alone than be severely tormented every day.
I'm sorry you had to go through that bro. Absolutely unfair.
exactly. While some people have minor glowups in their early 20s, rarely do people ever go from incel to chad in terms of face and height, just like that. You are born and die in the same looks level.
Normies have this flawed view on life, where someone finally getting a relationship in their late 20s suddenly makes up for all the neglect and missed experiences in their youth. it doesn't. Nothing makes up for it, and it's laughable that I need to wait until 39 to experience something normal people have already done at 15
Yes I agree 100%, I just failed to emphasize my point that I think being only a normie AFTER all those years would still not compensate for what happened.
Yep and I don't exactly get why people obsess over teen love when the only guys that were able to pull it off without the relationship being transactional in some way was when they were chads, it should be a complete non-issue for us as incels. Even if we lucked out in some way, with all of our deficits, it still wouldn't guarantee anything, you'd live in constant fear of losing that person, only chad has that picture perfect highschool relationship that works out in adulthood.
The possibility during the early years of college still exists to an extent, most late bloomers who managed to ascend post-highschool aren't crying about it. No shit depression/regret over inceldom ceases to exist when you're balls deep in your gf, without experience you can't accurately guess what it'd feel like after the fact. Unless you are an actual sub5 you, as a male, have more time to kill; it's not uncommon at all to see foids with men 3-5 years older. One thing you are right about though is the thing about them not being virgins, I fear that too but you can sort of tell somewhat accurately who has or who hasn't lost their virginity based off obvious traits.
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A shot term one
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I just want to warn you guys. Be careful.
Because that's another type of blackpill.
Because that's another type of blackpill.
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Yeah posts like these are detrimental to our community. You guys are delusional and honestly need to talk to people. I'm in university. Trust me. Most guys are not getting anything, most guys are celibate. Maybe they're not blackpilled or delusional or whatever but they're not getting shit. This was the case in high school when I was there back in 2018 2019 etc.
Stop peddling this retarded shit.
Stop peddling this retarded shit.
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LMAO "teen love" is a meme. Not saying having missed out on ascending looks and lifewise at that point isn't good, but.... If "love" is what you're worried about, know that it's only something that happens when you're good looking enough & in the right place. And you shouldn't be the one feeling it; it should be women toward you. The whole point of "love" is to know women like/love/lust you, that's it. It doesn't matter if this happens late or early -- it sucks the later it happens but it's damn well appreciated happening somewhat later than never, & that is far from cope.
If you're blackpilled you should know ANY TIME your looks improve, life tends to get better. So ascending anytime, as long as not elderly obviously or too damn fucking old to be able to redeem yourself realistically, then you can see it can be worth it at 25+ and even 35+ too for some.
Just good luck managing to do it, because this is all a big hypothetical which will apply to VERY few men, but if you do....
You will see it's better to be a 30+ who can get pussy and get a shred of the Chad experience even, even if late as fuck, rather than to have gotten 1 girlfriend in high school or some menial shit like that to then spend the rest of your life ugly as you descend hard AF like many "early moggers" tend to do. I can tell you many guys who "peaked early" look old as fucking shit even after 30 ... Look middle-aged sometimes even. Meanwhile at least if you look young and age without any serious assault to your perceived age, ascending at 30+ can be a blessing still & command appreciation.
If you're blackpilled you should know ANY TIME your looks improve, life tends to get better. So ascending anytime, as long as not elderly obviously or too damn fucking old to be able to redeem yourself realistically, then you can see it can be worth it at 25+ and even 35+ too for some.
Just good luck managing to do it, because this is all a big hypothetical which will apply to VERY few men, but if you do....
You will see it's better to be a 30+ who can get pussy and get a shred of the Chad experience even, even if late as fuck, rather than to have gotten 1 girlfriend in high school or some menial shit like that to then spend the rest of your life ugly as you descend hard AF like many "early moggers" tend to do. I can tell you many guys who "peaked early" look old as fucking shit even after 30 ... Look middle-aged sometimes even. Meanwhile at least if you look young and age without any serious assault to your perceived age, ascending at 30+ can be a blessing still & command appreciation.
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Exactly your avg is. user wants to be a simp heck even cuck as long as they have a sub 3 bitch on his side.
AFTER 15 IS TOO OLD TO FIND LOVE
I'm almost 19
Brutal. The fact you are a complete adult KHHV sinks in more at 19. You realize it’s been a whole year since you became a legal adult and you still don’t have the experience a 15-16 year old should have
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