Serious Ethnicels who haven't tried moving back to their home countries are actually volcel

[subhuman]

In the Crito, Socrates argues that because he choose to live in Athens and accepted all the benefits that came with it, he has a just obligation to abide by its laws and accept court judgements, even if they are unjust. So even though Socrates' punishment was unjust, he had an obligation to accept it. In this way, many ethnicels choose to come to our white countries, and enjoy many benefits including higher standards of living, education, and life expectancy. So when it comes to western foids judgements, they have an obligation to accept it, even if the foids aren't just. Which makes ethnicels in the west volcel.

Ethnicels: if you are really struggling in the West, why wouldn't you want to go to a country where the average guy is a lot more like you, so you have more of a comparative advantage? Furthermore, foids tend to date in group. So your problem might not even be your physical features, but just the fact that you are perceived to be a foreigner. Also, ethnic countries are a lot less degenerate than western countries, so they have preserved more traditional expressions of sexuality which would make it easier to ascend (a topic that I have written about in the past).

Perhaps maybe this is the real reason they don't try their luck with foids of their own race:

 

[Incelius Savage]

I'd move to mexico but it's high gang violence there.

 

[Diocel]

 

[subhuman]

I don't really agree. It is often said on here that fatcels are fakecel/volcel because they could ascend by making changes to their lives. So I don't see why the same can't be said of ethnicels as well?

 

[Mecoja]

I would if i could. I would move to any south Asia country, though i would get mogged there too.

 

[Diocel]

I don't really agree. It is often said on here that fatcels are fakecel/volcel because they could ascend by making changes to their lives. So I don't see why the same can't be said of ethnicels as well?

its cuz they are ugly and/or short
so their smv is low everywhere

 

[PPEcel]

I am so genetically subhuman I'd be incel anywhere.

 

[subhuman]

its cuz they are ugly and/or short

I would argue that standards for these are relative. For example, the average height in nonwestern countries is a lot lower. So if you are short in the west, your height could be a lot more competitive in other countries

I do acknowledge some people are so ugly they'd be ugly everywhere. But I think those people are not so common.

 

[Diocel]

I would argue that standards for these are relative. For example, the average height in nonwestern countries is a lot lower. So if you are short in the west, your height could be a lot more competitive in other countries
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I do acknowledge some people are so ugly they'd be ugly everywhere. But I think those people are not so common.

also u can say the same for whites, just move to asia or another ethnic country

 

[subhuman]

also u can say the same for whites, just move to asia or another ethnic country

true. but I think this is not as easy because foids prefer to date men of their own race

 

[Diocel]

true. but I think this is not as easy because foids prefer to date men of their own race

actually not true
without even showing u the race data that you're probably tired of
women have no racial loyalty
if u look at history
even foids living under nazi germany
that consumed hitler propaganda 24/7 still showed interest in indian, asian and black men
but i get u
a white dude with no friends going to asia, i mean how is he even gonna talk to girls
well the same will apply to those ethnics
they lived 20+ years in the west
they dont know the culture
and they dont know even know the language

 

[Zer0/∞]

Race is cope, it's all about NT.

 

[JayGoptri]

I am so genetically subhuman I'd be incel anywhere.

 

[Pikacel]

Marriage back home maxxing is escortcelling tier but definitely a viable tactic for deathnics. I’m definitely opting for this but it’s going to be hard due to a lack of connects

 

[Michael W. Ford]

Race is cope, it's all about NT.

I would have gotten pussy in high school if I was NT.

 

[Nigerlozi]

In the Crito, Socrates argues that because he choose to live in Athens and accepted all the benefits that came with it, he has a just obligation to abide by its laws and accept court judgements, even if they are unjust. So even though Socrates' punishment was unjust, he had an obligation to accept it. In this way, many ethnicels choose to come to our white countries, and enjoy many benefits including higher standards of living, education, and life expectancy. So when it comes to western foids judgements, they have an obligation to accept it, even if the foids aren't just. Which makes ethnicels in the west volcel.

Ethnicels: if you are really struggling in the West, why wouldn't you want to go to a country where the average guy is a lot more like you, so you have more of a comparative advantage? Furthermore, foids tend to date in group. So your problem might not even be your physical features, but just the fact that you are perceived to be a foreigner. Also, ethnic countries are a lot less degenerate than western countries, so they have preserved more traditional expressions of sexuality which would make it easier to ascend (a topic that I have written about in the past).

Perhaps maybe this is the real reason they don't try their luck with foids of their own race:
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i've tried going back to my tribe aboriginal community but even the girls there do not want me or they are a cousin. it's brutal when even your own race doesn't want you

 

[Incline]

I am so genetically subhuman I'd be incel anywhere.

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

i've tried going back to my tribe aboriginal community but even the girls there do not want me or they are a cousin. it's brutal when even your own race doesn't want you

Welcome to the life of a ricecel

 

[PLA1092]

I've attached arguments against this before; why don't whitecels simply move to a country where their whiteness alone gives them a perceived halo?

It's simply never that easy, especially for actual subhumans.

 

[Reclusemaxxer]

I've attached arguments against this before; why don't whitecels simply move to a country where their whiteness alone gives them a perceived halo?

It's simply never that easy, especially for actual subhumans.

Ethnics have no chance with white women especially if they’re sub 5

 

[subhuman]

I've attached arguments against this before; why don't whitecels simply move to a country where their whiteness alone gives them a perceived halo?

It actually doesn’t work. Because any sexually conservative culture won’t let foids have sex with outsiders. If a foid would be willing to have sex with outsiders, then she is sexually liberated to the point where she’s chad only (it’s just be chad not just be white)

Most people here mistakenly assume SEAmaxxers success is because noodlewhores are attracted to white guys. But really it’s just a show and they have dollar signs in their eyes or they want the free trip to the western countries

 

[PLA1092]

But really it’s just a show and they have dollar signs in their eyes or they want the free trip to the western countries

Is this not also true for subhuman ethnics betabuxxing foids from back home?

 

[subhuman]

Is this not also true for subhuman ethnics betabuxxing foids from back home?

I think betabuxxing is a term that is misused and overused too often. Most of the time it is a low iq cope to try and gatekeep real relationships from the ones we envision in our fantasies. I made a thread about this, that the distinction of betabuxxing is stupid because all relationships involve betabuxxing.

All relationships devolve into betabuxxing

It makes no sense that people fear betabuxxing so much but still desire to have a romantic relationship and get married. In any long term relationship, betabuxxing is inevitable, because you are going to have to support your family. And herein lies the trap of romantic relationships. Many...

incels.is

The problem in this situation is things like betabuxxing and physical attractiveness have different meanings in different cultures. In sexually conservative cultures, the family is the basic unit of society. You have to be able to provide for a family if you want one, so people with stable jobs who arent psychopaths are seen as good catches. There is also enforced monogamy and virginity is valued and divorce is seen as shameful, so foids arent gonna be whoring themselves out for chads as much.

In western cultures, the individual is the basic unit of society. Nobody really gives a fuck about families or traditional relationships, so foids are free to select based on looks like they would in nature. In these cultures, if a foid is with you for your resources, it is seen as shallow because it means she is not physically attracted to you.

From our subjective Westernized perspective, we see the family structures of ethnic communities as oppressive because we are hyper individualist and value sexual consumerism, and we project our ideas about relationships onto them and call it betabuxxing. But in their communities it has real value. From their perspective, they see our women being chad whores and only caring about looks as shallow and superficial.

 

[PLA1092]

I think betabuxxing is a term that is misused and overused too often. Most of the time it is a low iq cope to try and gatekeep real relationships from the ones we envision in our fantasies. I made a thread about this, that the distinction of betabuxxing is stupid because all relationships involve betabuxxing.

All relationships devolve into betabuxxing

It makes no sense that people fear betabuxxing so much but still desire to have a romantic relationship and get married. In any long term relationship, betabuxxing is inevitable, because you are going to have to support your family. And herein lies the trap of romantic relationships. Many...

incels.is

The problem in this situation is things like betabuxxing and physical attractiveness have different meanings in different cultures. In sexually conservative cultures, the family is the basic unit of society. You have to be able to provide for a family if you want one, so people with stable jobs who arent psychopaths are seen as good catches. There is also enforced monogamy and virginity is valued and divorce is seen as shameful, so foids arent gonna be whoring themselves out for chads as much.

In western cultures, the individual is the basic unit of society. Nobody really gives a fuck about families or traditional relationships, so foids are free to select based on looks like they would in nature. In these cultures, if a foid is with you for your resources, it is seen as shallow because it means she is not physically attracted to you.

From our subjective Westernized perspective, we see the family structures of ethnic communities as oppressive because we are hyper individualist and value sexual consumerism, and we project our ideas about relationships onto them and call it betabuxxing. But in their communities it has real value. From their perspective, they see our women being chad whores and only caring about looks as shallow and superficial.

I'll accept that, but my point is that in both cases the subhuman ethnic will get a foid for the exact same reason the JBWmaxxer in SEA might, as you say.

 

[subhuman]

I'll accept that, but my point is that in both cases the subhuman ethnic will get a foid for the exact same reason the JBWmaxxer in SEA might, as you say.

Zizek once said that ideology tells you it's coffee without cream, when it's actually coffee without milk. If you are looking at it materially, it's basically the same thing. Its just coffee. But there is actually an illusion going on here, the illusion that we can perceive of objects objectively. Our conception of reality needs to be structured by some sort of illusion. Even materialism is just one structure people employ to perceive of things. This is how ideology directs our attention towards the lack of milk, or the lack of cream.

I think this example applies well here. Yes it's basically the same thing, you are providing a foid with resources and in exchange she sometimes acts like she loves you. But people are conceiving of it in totally different ways. It's the difference of a foid from a sexually conservative culture actually caring about the family and a foid from a degenerate western culture who is likely to treat you like shit or divorce rape you

 

[PLA1092]

Zizek once said that ideology tells you it's coffee without cream, when it's actually coffee without milk. If you are looking at it materially, it's basically the same thing. Its just coffee. But there is actually an illusion going on here, the illusion that we can perceive of objects objectively. Our conception of reality needs to be structured by some sort of illusion. Even materialism is just one structure people employ to perceive of things. This is how ideology directs our attention towards the lack of milk, or the lack of cream.

I think this example applies well here. Yes it's basically the same thing, you are providing a foid with resources and in exchange she sometimes acts like she loves you. But people are conceiving of it in totally different ways. It's the difference of a foid from a sexually conservative culture actually caring about the family and a foid from a degenerate western culture who is likely to treat you like shit or divorce rape you

Indeed, but I can see a SEAfoid retaining cultural values of family and still getting with a JBWmaxxer who provides resources and a better life; even relatives could be accepting of it, if they get a piece of the first world pie...

This also, of course, assumes the ethnicel in question is financially stable or even still has any cultural connections/language left.

 

[subhuman]

Indeed, but I can see a SEAfoid retaining cultural values of family and still getting with a JBWmaxxer who provides resources and a better life; even relatives could be accepting of it, if they get a piece of the first world pie...

I think this is a catch-22. Because any foid who is going to date outside their group is not sexually conservative at all. And if they actually care about you being white, then they are clearly looks oriented (chad only)

 

[wgod]

I am so genetically subhuman I'd be incel anywhere.

At least you are at least 6 ft, from your claim.

 

[PLA1092]

I think this is a catch-22. Because any foid who is going to date outside their group is not sexually conservative at all. And if they actually care about you being white, then they are clearly looks oriented (chad only)

It depends; they may not have the SMV or competitive advantage needed to get a rare white Chad in a place like Thailand, so they could settle for you...

As for dating outside their group, the family's acceptance of such a thing and whether it's seen as morally acceptable or not in their locality matters.

 

[Postmaxxercel50k]

Race is cope, it's all about NT.

 

[subhuman]

Cumskin lives so difficult

Iktf. It’s brutal