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Blackpill Escortcels shouldn't have to justify their hobby on this forum, but yet here we are

Emotional arguments aren't actually arguments, try again, you have to realize how blue pilled you sound right now, oh and its only over priced because you are going to the wrong venues

Sex is an inherently emotional business so I can't really fault @Askiel for having a few qualms about it, I was nervous my first time around and it took me a few months of research to even think about making a booking.

But being a KHHV well into one's 20s, 30s, even 40s isn't sustainable. Eventually his sense of curiosity and the sheer depressive weight of your loneliness will override his fears.

So take your time, but you'll definitely be tempted to try it out once, sooner or later.
I think you mean keep sticking our dicks in women's asses :feelsEhh:

@PPEcel :feelskek:

I want to fuck a woman with abs once too tbh, like lick her abdomen :forcedsmile:

Foids with a strong core tend to be better at fucking -- better muscular control, hip motion, stamina. Though it's kind of suifuel on some level because I'm out of shape.

If her abs are defined enough you can prep and snort a line of cocaine on it while she's lying down. :feelskek: tried it once with a whore who was just really skinny
 
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Sex is an inherently emotional business so I can't really fault @Askiel for having a few qualms about it, I was nervous my first time around and it took me a few months of research to even think about making a booking.

But being a KHHV well into one's 20s, 30s, even 40s isn't sustainable. Eventually his sense of curiosity and the sheer depressive weight of your loneliness will override his fears.

So take your time, but you'll definitely be tempted to try it out once, sooner or later.

I get what you're saying but temptation is separate from means

A lot of these guys go out of their way to keep themselves broke (LDAR, NEET, etc) because for them paying for sex is not even an option, sex is a huge motivator for men, its pretty much the core reason I'm wealthmaxxing, without that reason most of them will ignore any financial pursuits and remain broke

So if he wakes up one day in his 40's and is finally ready to try it, guess what, its a self fulfilling prophecy, because everything he did (more like didn't do) in his past has made it so that he can't afford to do it now, and he'll compound that with other excuses like - "Its illegal" or "there's risk of std's", and he'll excuse himself again out of doing it

Heck a lot of us don't know what could happen to us, my libido could die completely when I reach 40 and I can't even maintain an erection

If you wait too long there may be no going back, I can't even see myself enjoy sex much in my 50's, my back might be bad and all I can do is get blow jobs lol
 
I like skinny foids tbhngl why
This is the third time I heard someone literally saying "poking their abs" for sexual arousement. Well, of course its your thing but for me thats just the opposite of whats attractive on a females stomach. A little fat is the real deal for me.
 
pm me stock advice :feelsmusic:
 
Half the cunts on this site don't seem to have any interest at all in women. If for some bizarre reason a nice looking foid was to pay you some attention and be up for having sex. Loads of you here would still reject her in that scenario. I don't understand it. Yes I also feel apathy towards women, and there is no denying the detrimental effect of hypergamy and online dating has had on society. However I'd still ride the life out of a foid giving half a chance, rather than sitting wae my dick in my hand feeling all pious an righteous about it.
If there is an argument to be made about escort cells not being incel. Then those who reject the chance to have sex in any form could also not be classed as incels. Basically gatekeeping is a load of shite.
 
Obviously the negative effects going to escort which will destroy me, since I argue against any form of escort use as Incel.
That's circular logic. Escorting is bad because it will destroy you. And it will destroy you because you think it is bad.
 
If there is an argument to be made about escort cells not being incel. Then those who reject the chance to have sex in any form could also not be classed as incels.

Agreed. It makes a better argument to say that non-escortcels are fakecels.
 
And you won't ever receive a smidgeon of a good faith debate if all you showcase is akin to the petulant moaning of an 8-year-old.

OK, I'll take a risk here and try to engage with you on this, since you're clearly educated, intelligent, and not a troll, which means you're more likely to have an honest discussion that probably won't devolve into ego battles and one-upmanship.

I hold that the position that escortcelling is both cucked and degenerate. There are many cucked and degenerate behaviors and activities (or none, depending on your views), but first we need to establish a baseline we can both work from for what it means for something to be "cucked" and "degenerate". However, I've also argued that, despite this, it's still justifiable for an incel to fuck whores for multiple reasons that converge primarily to biological and/or psychological and/or emotional needs. I don't judge or think less of anyone for partaking in this degeneracy, because it's a necessary evil in some sense, and I get that.
 
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dude you are police
 
So some people, including a few members of the forum, pay for it because they can't do that for free.

You can’t do that for free because you pay for it. If nobody paid for prostitution, women could not be whores.
 
You can’t do that for free because you pay for it. If nobody paid for prostitution, women could not be whores.
he can't do that for free because he's not chad :feelsokman: the ready availability of paid sex is much more in our favor than against it. if every simp and cuck was forced to fuck a good whore once a year at gunpoint there'd be a whole lot less of them
 
I wish i could afford a who're
 
You don’t have to , You can always just put everyone you don’t like on ignore. But I guess arguing kills time
Yeah
You can’t do that for free because you pay for it. If nobody paid for prostitution, women could not be whores.

No, they'd still be sluts for Chad, and people like me would have no way of ever experiencing sex. The idea that I'd get sex for free if prostitution didn't exist is plainly absurd.
 
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dude you are police

:feelskek:
OK, I'll take a risk here and try to engage with you on this, since you're clearly educated, intelligent, and not a troll, which means you're more likely to have an honest discussion that probably won't devolve into ego battles and one-upmanship.

I hold that the position that escortcelling is both cucked and degenerate. There are many cucked and degenerate behaviors and activities (or none, depending on your views), but first we need to establish a baseline we can both work from for what it means for something to be "cucked" and "degenerate". However, I've also argued that, despite this, it's still justifiable for an incel to fuck whores for multiple reasons that converge primarily to biological and/or psychological and/or emotional needs. I don't judge or think less of anyone for partaking in this degeneracy, because it's a necessary evil in some sense, and I get that.

A person or action is "cucked" if it involves the "cuckold" engaging in a pattern of behaviour with a severely imbalanced dynamic in his disfavour, where there is no prospect of reciprocation to the cuckold. The state of being "cucked" is simply a modification of the free-rider problem applied to two actors. For example, being a pay pig to an ewhore, or donating to a foid's Amazon wish list, etc. I'd argue that escortcelling is not "cucked" because there is an element of reciprocation -- i.e. I get to slap my cock on her face and perform other acts.

I dislike the "degenerate" label because I have yet, after two years on the forum, to see an adequate criterion for "degeneracy" that doesn't rely on an appeal to emotion, incredulity, or religion.
 
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You can keep coping all you want, but if you were born 100 years ago your morals would be completely different, moralfags don't realize they are just blind followers that can't think for themselves and form their own opinions

There's a version of you burning "witches" at a stake, there's a version of you that rapes without feeling guilt, there's a version of you that kills gay men for being gay, there's a version of you that believes babies that die when not baptized go to hell to get tortured for eternity, etc

When your decisions are based on morals, your decisions are based on an arbitrary and ever changing rule set that is determined by where and when you were born
I think there are many people that are just too low IQ to delve into that level of self awareness. We are an intelligent yet very illogical species, I guess that is what makes humanity's history so interesting.
 
I think there are many people that are just too low IQ to delve into that level of self awareness. We are an intelligent yet very illogical species, I guess that is what makes humanity's history so interesting.

I would say annoying rather than interesting lol

We could be so much further along in progress if people were forced to be honest with themselves and forced to be introspective, until its so normalized in the younger population that it no longer needs to be forced, it would be part of regular human culture, if something like that happened, the rate of progress for the species would sky rocket at unprecedented levels

But because people are allowed to be blissfully ignorant the species is basically devolving at this point, with a small select few advancing technology and society, it only seems like were advancing as a species due to all these technological advancements, but really that's just the "image" being propped up by the select few who are actually thinkers

The average human is an idiot that shouldn't be allowed to vote or even have children

I seriously believe that one should have to pass an IQ test to vote, and one should have to pass an IQ test and meet a minimum income threshold to have children

People should be steralized at birth via some easily reversible method and it should only be undone once you meet the criteria, were running out of resources and space on the planet and its mostly useless idiots that are breeding endlessly, that isn't sustainable at all, humanity will only realize this though long after were gone because its only far off into the future that the reality of limited space and resources will become apparent
 
I would say annoying rather than interesting lol
Each to their own.

The average human is an idiot that shouldn't be allowed to vote or even have children

I seriously believe that one should have to pass an IQ test to vote, and one should have to pass an IQ test and meet a minimum income threshold to have children
feelsSocrates
 
Gook gib buxx
 
@PPEcel
I'm not even joking, I want to nibble on some flaps one day like its actual roast beef :feelskek:
 
It's just a controversial topic.

Some incels say it's a good cope.

Some say it's a cuck because you are paying for something that should be free.
 
I can see why one would try to avoid it if he feared developing an addiction. I will admit that this hobby relies on a certain element of self-control.

Not having sex exposes you to an over risk : falling for a female who don't give a crap about you.

I went to see whores because I became infatuated towards a female (she was not even pretty, just she was my room-mate so I got used to her company and got attached). When she got a boyfriend, I became incredibly jealous and I turned into the laughing stock in the eyes of the social circle I was part of.
In a flash of lucidity, I realized that it was all because I had no sexual experience whatsoever that I fell for that female. I mean truly I didn't even know her that well. It was clear then that I had to do something, I was in my mid-twenties so I thought it was too late to hope for a miracle, it was time to act.

I was convinced that after having sex with good looking females, I would not so easily lose my mind for an average looking one. And I was right. I went to Amsterdam's red light district, spent lots of money with many prostitutes, and when I came back and saw the female I had fallen for, it was a completely different story.

I think if you don't have sex ever, the desire for it, even if it's just a form of curiosity, will slowly eat your spirit and you will lose your mind.

As for the other arguments, like how we're enabling women's "easy life", it's non-sense. The overwhelming majority of women are not willing to prostitute themselves, so we're only making things easy for a very tiny fraction of them. And with even the females who do want to prostitute themselves, if there is competition only the prettiest and younger ones can make a ton of money.
 
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I think if you don't have sex ever, the desire for it, even if it's just a form of curiosity, will slowly eat your spirit and you will lose your mind.
Brutal because I know that it's true.
 
It's just a controversial topic.

Some incels say it's a good cope.

Some say it's a cuck because you are paying for something that should be free.
It's simply cucked, end of story. Bluepillers cope by orbiting femorrhoids. Same thing happens except they don't get access to that used up pussy.
 

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