“Erosion of personal wealth, wealth gap, middle class getting raped, inflation = the cause of all your problems”

[femcelbreedingnig]

When did this whole rhetoric of middle class wealth erosion start getting popular? Whenever social issues are brought up, it’s common to hear people say “oh well families can’t afford meals and homes and are barely scraping by and are getting screwed by greedy firms and politicians”

I ask this because I feel like I’m missing context of a potentially long standing political talking point.

I remember when I was little, my mom used to buy fast food more often and my dad used to buy me more toys. As I grew older, it was slow, but it seemed like they did get poorer and poorer each year, despite having the same jobs. McDonalds was the go to, and I never heard my mom complain about their prices, even though she is the type, until i got older (preteen). Idk if that’s just my anecdote, or if they ran into some money issues that I didn’t know about, but their shopping habits changed.

So perhaps there’s some truth to it, but it’s weird how people blame “mating crisis” and widespread hopelessness for the future on this…

this one is for my burgercels in particular

 

[Albertopenheimer]

1. its cuz money is finite so when others get richer, you get poorer. And currently - billionares get much richer

2. You sell always for a higher price than you bought. So with every transaction, housing prices rise. And with housing prices, the renting prices

 

[femcelbreedingnig]

1. its cuz money is finite so when others get richer, you get poorer. And currently - billionares get much richer

2. You sell always for a higher price than you bought. So with every transaction, housing prices rise. And with housing prices, the renting prices

yea but I’m asking when did the rhetoric I talked about begin

 

[Albertopenheimer]

yea but I’m asking when did the rhetoric I talked about begin

i think when the right wing populists started to rise, cuz they constantly say how bad it is

 

[femcelbreedingnig]

i think when the right wing populists started to rise, cuz they constantly say how bad it is

What year.
I feel like at minimum 2016 because of bernie sanders

 

[Albertopenheimer]

What year.
I feel like at minimum 2016 because of bernie sanders

depends on the country but yh, in the usa prob at least 2016. At least when it comes to republican districts

 

[Pikacel]

yea but I’m asking when did the rhetoric I talked about begin

I think because wage progression is more linear, and in places like UK wages are dropping across the board

 

[femcelbreedingnig]

View: https://www.reddit.com/r/PsycheOrSike/comments/1mqhq6l/we_live_in_a_society/?share_id=G1RnL6f2HMu4L35jDHpfy&utm_content=1&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1

We live in a society

The housing market is insane, it's impossible to rent anywhere. The college system is a bad, and outdated solution for income.

You can't start a family if you can't afford to live alone. I have to live with my family till I'm 30/earn enough to move out which is like 100k+ (60% of men don't ellipse 100k in their lifetime).

Trump did jack shit for the economy besides bail out billionaire tax brackets and corporations. The best thing he did was accelerate AI.

The president is a confirmed pedo and was buddy buddy with Epstein. The two party system is cooked. Super PACS killed democracy, citizen united killed democracy.

There's no sense of community all third party spaces were deleted. There's no effective help and resources for the mentally ill.

Billionaires are building bunkers and their 5th mansion while people beg for money on the streets.

The sex wars is a psy-op by the elite to destroy the population pyramid. 3rd wave Feminism convinced woman working a 9-5 is superior to raising children, doubling the work force while we all get paid less for working. The black pill was a psy-op to convince average and below average men they never had a chance and there's no meaning or purpose outside of children.

The boomers did fuck all and got to live the best lives ever, meanwhile Gen z is expected to be satisfied with crumbs.
Gen Z is completely numb to the traumatizing reality they grew up in which is why they're addicted to every known substance and brain rot, because they genuinely feel they are incapable of fixing society.

Posts like these are what I’m talking about.
He’s posting this in an incel/femcel sub. He thinks these talking points are relevant. Why?

 

[Eucalyptus Warrior]

1. its cuz money is finite so when others get richer, you get poorer. And currently - billionares get much richer

2. You sell always for a higher price than you bought. So with every transaction, housing prices rise. And with housing prices, the renting prices

Wrong. In today's fiat money world, money is infinite. The banks literally just create money out of thin air by typing some digits into a computer whenever someone or some business opens a credit line, credit card, mortgage or other form of loan financing. However, that infinite money has a cost in the form of interest. The central banks control inflation through the lending rate (and your interest rate is generally set above that). Which means you're going to have to make up for the difference in compound interest by being a slave, or farming that out to some other slave (i.e. flipping a property for a profit), or putting that money from the loan to work to make more money.

It's precisely because the money supply is infinite, always growing through the creation of more credit and more loans that you're always having to spend a higher price as time goes on. Because the purchasing power of your money is always decreasing.

The rich get richer because they understand the above fact about fiat money. They understand that fiat money is complete garbage, that it is no better than monopoly money for the cattle and it's better to put it to work by trading it for other assets that will appreciate in value faster than the money's purchasing power depreciates.

Non inflationary assets like Bitcoin sort of solve the issue with inflation, which has a fixed supply. However, there's nothing stopping anyone from creating their own crypto shitcoin to compete with Bitcoin, so you're back to where you started with the infinite money glitch. And that's exactly what has happened to the cryptocurrency space.

If you don't understand how money works, you'll always be a poor.

 

[Eucalyptus Warrior]

If you want to understand how the monetary system actually works, watch this documentary.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXcKpxhXZE

 

[AsiaCel]

Wrong. In today's fiat money world, money is infinite. The banks literally just create money out of thin air by typing some digits into a computer whenever someone or some business opens a credit line, credit card, mortgage or other form of loan financing. However, that infinite money has a cost in the form of interest. The central banks control inflation through the lending rate (and your interest rate is generally set above that). Which means you're going to have to make up for the difference in compound interest by being a slave, or farming that out to some other slave (i.e. flipping a property for a profit), or putting that money from the loan to work to make more money.

It's precisely because the money supply is infinite, always growing through the creation of more credit and more loans that you're always having to spend a higher price as time goes on. Because the purchasing power of your money is always decreasing.

The rich get richer because they understand the above fact about fiat money. They understand that fiat money is complete garbage, that it is no better than monopoly money for the cattle and it's better to put it to work by trading it for other assets that will appreciate in value faster than the money's purchasing power depreciates.

Non inflationary assets like Bitcoin sort of solve the issue with inflation, which has a fixed supply. However, there's nothing stopping anyone from creating their own crypto shitcoin to compete with Bitcoin, so you're back to where you started with the infinite money glitch. And that's exactly what has happened to the cryptocurrency space.

If you don't understand how money works, you'll always be a poor.

So basically it's over if youdont have assets that raise in value?

 

[Eucalyptus Warrior]

So basically it's over if youdont have assets that raise in value?

Precisely. If you don't have scarce assets, it's over. Scarce assets go up in value when the money supply increases from inflation, and inflation is caused by the creation of loans or from the creation of bonds (when a government decides it needs more money to waste, it holds a bond auction through its treasury).

Inflation is not caused from rich billionaires profiting and getting richer, this is merely a consequence or a side effect of money creation.

 

[Albertopenheimer]

Wrong. In today's fiat money world, money is infinite.

No matter how much u print, it stays finite

Inflation is not caused from rich billionaires profiting and getting richer, this is merely a consequence or a side effect of money creation.

Inflation is technically not the only things that makes u poorer. Its technically the rise of prices. And if a few ppl have the controll bout them (important stockholders), they can set them. And since they want to become richer, they increase them.

If you don't understand how money works, you'll always be a poor.

Your living standard is much more determined by how rich your parents are.

 

[Framemysadness]

I feel that these talking points are becoming more prevalent as the middle class are de-facto diminishing. But it also feels that it is a response to loss of agency from “normal” people, a narrative that is needed to explain one’s felt misery

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Whores didn't become whores because of the economy

 

[femcelbreedingnig]

I feel that these talking points are becoming more prevalent as the middle class are de-facto diminishing. But it also feels that it is a response to loss of agency from “normal” people, a narrative that is needed to explain one’s felt misery

Yea but I’m interested in knowing when this whole rhetoric started. Like was it the 80s? The 90s? When?

If you want to understand how the monetary system actually works, watch this documentary.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbXcKpxhXZE

I knew a lot about this stuff and forgot, but your replies jogged my memory. Answered a question I recently asked myself that the old me knew the answer to.

 

[Framemysadness]

Whores didn't become whores because of the economy

Don't one become a whore for that exact (personal) reason?

I think at least that the neoliberal turning might have been one of the most important causes for the situation we find ourselves in right now. Think about it, if everybody is left to themselves, aren't the foids going to do what foids do? Before that time they were more bound by societal structures.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

Don't one become a whore for that exact (personal) reason?

I think at least that the neoliberal turning might have been one of the most important causes for the situation we find ourselves in right now. Think about it, if everybody is left to themselves, aren't the foids going to do what foids do? Before that time they were more bound by societal structures.

a literal whore in a literal warzone, maybe

but women have been getting very steadily and gradually more promiscous while ignoring changing economic realities, it's most obvious in eastern and central europe, where living standards have been improving for decades on end and it only made women into bigger whores

 

[Framemysadness]

a literal whore in a literal warzone, maybe

but women have been getting very steadily and gradually more promiscous while ignoring changing economic realities, it's most obvious in eastern and central europe, where living standards have been improving for decades on end and it only made women into bigger whores

True

I can also agree to that, but what i'm trying to get at is that they have been reaping the fruits of freedom - ie becoming bigger whores - while simultaneously not accepting their structural responsibility.

 

[turbocuckcel_7000]

True

I can also agree to that, but what i'm trying to get at is that they have been reaping the fruits of freedom - ie becoming bigger whores - while simultaneously not accepting their structural responsibility.

we are going to see very soon if they all turn into nuns once there are economic problems, especially in europe

probably not

 

[Framemysadness]

we are going to see very soon if they all turn into nuns once there are economic problems, especially in europe

probably not

They will turn in to hoard of succubus's