Theory Elites Will Use AI Companions to Stop an Incel Revolt

[Iranianoldcel]

History shows that when large numbers of young men are denied sex, relationships, and companionship, societies get unstable. Sexually denied men revolt.

Today, male loneliness and involuntary celibacy are at all-time highs, yet no uprising. Why? Unlimited porn and digital copes keep most men passive and distracted.
But what if that stops working? What if millions of isolated men actually organize and demand change?

That’s when the elites drop the hyper-realistic artificial partners. Androids or clones.... think Detroit: Become Human level. Perfect, Companions that provide affection.

 

[4sez]

trvth

 

[subhuman0]

I cant comprehend how somebody can love a machine, how a machine could replace genuine human love and affection.

 

[auxcking]

I cant comprehend how somebody can love a machine, how a machine could replace genuine human love and affection.

Okay buddy drop us a tutorial on how to obtain the real thing if you know soo much about genuine affection

 

[auxcking]

History shows that when large numbers of young men are denied sex, relationships, and companionship, societies get unstable. Sexually denied men revolt.

Today, male loneliness and involuntary celibacy are at all-time highs, yet no uprising. Why? Unlimited porn and digital copes keep most men passive and distracted.
But what if that stops working? What if millions of isolated men actually organize and demand change?

That’s when the elites drop the hyper-realistic artificial partners. Androids or clones.... think Detroit: Become Human level. Perfect, Companions that provide affection.

Even without porn girls still avoid looking at me or say things behind my back about being weird or a psycho I swear I can hear them

 

[TooSomething]

I want to stop gaming and porn as well, to see whether I get angry enough to do super low inhib stuff.

 

[subhuman0]

Okay buddy drop us a tutorial on how to obtain the real thing if you know soo much about genuine affection

We cannot obtain the real thing, my point was that there doesn't exist a replacement for stuff i have mentioned. Its just my opinion and how i feel about it, u dont have to agree

 

[auxcking]

I want to stop gaming and porn as well, to see whether I get angry enough to do super low inhib stuff.

Jailmaxxing?

 

[auxcking]

We cannot obtain the real thing, my point was that there doesn't exist a replacement for stuff i have mentioned. Its just my opinion and how i feel about it, u dont have to agree

Okay so if you don't wanna emulate the real thing, that means you get the real thing in the first place

 

[TooSomething]

Jailmaxxing?

Shut up GrAY.

 

[auxcking]

Shut up GrAY.

You'll miss .is when you are in jail for hitting a woman

 

[subhuman0]

Okay so if you don't wanna emulate the real thing, that means you get the real thing in the first place

No, it doesnt. Not everything is that straightforward.

 

[auxcking]

No, it doesnt. Not everything is that straightforward.

What cope do you recommend then?

 

[fatass30000]

yes they’re afraid of all 15 of us

 

[subhuman0]

What cope do you recommend then?

I dont know. You have to find copes that suit you and keep the rope away

 

[auxcking]

I dont know. You have to find copes that suit you and keep the rope away

So you don't know any copes, you don't want fake affection.

Makes me wonder, are you a fakecel?

 

[subhuman0]

So you don't know any copes, you don't want fake affection.

Makes me wonder, are you a fakecel?

Yea, surely am a fakest khhv fakecel

I have copes that suit me, but there is no way i could cope with that.

 

[subhuman0]

So you don't know any copes, you don't want fake affection.

Makes me wonder, are you a fakecel?

I hate porn for the same reason, its soulless and fake.

 

[auxcking]

I hate porn for the same reason.

Nigga you could have a robot ai girlfriend and if you fuck up just reset her settings

 

[Iranianoldcel]

I cant comprehend how somebody can love a machine, how a machine could replace genuine human love and affection.

When its hyper realistic, and she stays with you for a while, it could replace human being in a way. Specially when you get older, you accept things like thus more easily.

yes they’re afraid of all 15 of us

Do you know how many incels are out there?

 

[subhuman0]

Nigga you could have a robot ai girlfriend and if you fuck up just reset her settings

If i fuck up what? i dont understand

 

[Iranianoldcel]

View: https://youtu.be/oL1ZOLo3s7s?si=8UgwoxZ9sWkC6cO_


Imagine having a robot ai gf like her. Wow. I'm jealous of young trucels. I'm getting older and having a gf like her in my 40's is extremely unlikely .

 

[auxcking]

If i fuck up what? i dont understand

If you abuse her or something

 

[auxcking]

View: https://youtu.be/oL1ZOLo3s7s?si=8UgwoxZ9sWkC6cO_


Imagine having a robot ai gf like her. Wow. I'm jealous of young trucels. I'm getting older and having a gf like her in my 40's is extremely unlikely .

You're living the life I want

 

[Dregster]

History shows that when large numbers of young men are denied sex, relationships, and companionship, societies get unstable. Sexually denied men revolt.

Today, male loneliness and involuntary celibacy are at all-time highs, yet no uprising. Why? Unlimited porn and digital copes keep most men passive and distracted.
But what if that stops working? What if millions of isolated men actually organize and demand change?

That’s when the elites drop the hyper-realistic artificial partners. Androids or clones.... think Detroit: Become Human level. Perfect, Companions that provide affection.

I cant comprehend how somebody can love a machine, how a machine could replace genuine human love and affection.

This plan will never work because at some point, those men will want something real and genuine.

A machine is not going to fucking cut it, longterm

 

[subhuman0]

If you abuse her or something

Why would i care about abusing a fucking soulless machine jfl

 

[Erenincel]

But what if that stops working?.

Perhaps this is the current path to revolution. Breaking away from the current system and stopping working for it. Best of all, it's easier to implement. Furthermore, given current electricity prices and the current situation, such a revolution could be a matter of life and death.Especially since, regardless of whether IA succeeds or not, people will be unable to work normally, and this is our chance. We won't defeat them with violence because they are too strong, but we will starve them to death.

 

[Dregster]

I want to stop gaming and porn as well, to see whether I get angry enough to do super low inhib stuff.

There's no point, if you didn't have any inherent anger growing up or before video games/porn, odds are you'll never develop that savage gene on your own at an older age.

All the low inhib stuff are things you mold yourself into when you're younger.

 

[auxcking]

Why would i care about abusing a fucking soulless machine jfl

See what it feels like

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

yes they’re afraid of all 15 of us

 

[TooSomething]

There's no point, if you didn't have any inherent anger growing up or before video games/porn, odds are you'll never develop that savage gene on your own at an older age.

All the low inhib stuff are things you mold yourself into when you're younger.

I did have it though. As a pre teen I was a mogger, physically, tbh.

I've had my own little gang of three, and I was their leader and "mastermind" if you will.

We've done some stuff and things, as kids. We were different back then.

Pacified now. Claws have been cut, for now

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

That would only work if they were widely available, and also capable of replicating the genuine experience with high accuracy.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

This plan will never work because at some point, those men will want something real and genuine.

A machine is not going to fucking cut it, longterm

Yep. Such a society would also be disturbingly dystopian, and I find it difficult to believe it would be able to sustain itself.

 

[Dregster]

Yep. Such a society would also be disturbingly dystopian, and I find it difficult to believe it would be able to sustain itself.

You would have to lobomize most men on a mass scale to make that work

 

[Dregster]

I did have it though. As a pre teen I was a mogger, physically, tbh.

I've had my own little gang of three, and I was their leader and "mastermind" if you will.

We've done some stuff and things, as kids. We were different back then.

Pacified now. Claws have been cut, for now

Oh ok. Well then there you go, it's a matter of re-awakening that fury.

 

[endoftheskies]

Yep. Such a society would also be disturbingly dystopian, and I find it difficult to believe it would be able to sustain itself.

Whats the difference between an simulacrum and the thing if its supposed to represent, if the simulacrum is more real than the thing its supposed to represent. At that point, the representation becomes the thing in and of itself.

 

[endoftheskies]

You would have to lobomize most men on a mass scale to make that work

I personally think that most men would be fine with being alone. We have already coped with it. Its just that people have an hard time grasping with the concept. That is why our ideology is put down or they try to put it down, because we aren't falling for an rigged game. The best move in an rigged game is not to play.

 

[Dregster]

I personally think that most men would be fine with being alone. We have already coped with it.

Yeah but we're not normies. They wont stand too long with the pent up frustration, it's like a ticking time bomb when we're talking about that on a mass scale of male loneliness. We are a few, a desperate minority doing our best to not let that frustration leak out to that degree, there aren't enough of us to make a valid impact against society.

Its just that people have an hard time grasping with the concept. If men accepted the fact that they would be alone forever, we would have an much peaceful society.

Just because a handful of Low T imbeciles laid down like that and accepted this, doesnt mean all men will cuck themselves into that same fate.

 

[drowningindenial]

yes they’re afraid of all 15 of us

 

[yeetbender_]

Good, I hope they get right on with it, and if it's clones, make them white. Now that I think about it, that's too ethical and happy a solution, that goes against everything the jews stand for, so I wouldn't hold my breath to say the least.

 

[endoftheskies]

Yeah but we're not normies. They wont stand too long with the pent up frustration, it's like a ticking time bomb when we're talking about that on a mass scale of male loneliness. We are a few, a desperate minority doing our best to not let that frustration leak out to that degree, there aren't enough of us to make a valid impact against society.


Just because a handful of Low T imbeciles laid down like that and accepted this, doesnt mean all men will cuck themselves into that same fate.

Accepting that you will be alone forever is not low T. It is the rational and most logical thing to do. Normies are fed lies and that is why they think they have an chance. That is the only reason why they participate in this gauntlet because, they genuinely full-heartedly believe that they will have an girlfriend by personalitymaxxing or whatever.

 

[Dregster]

Accepting that you will be alone forever is not low T. It is the rational and most logical thing to do. Normies are fed lies and that is why they think they have an chance. That is the only reason why they participate in this gauntlet because, they genuinely full-heartedly believe that they will have an girlfriend by personalitymaxxing or whatever.

Be real, nobody wants to be alone. And most people who have not known loneliness will not sit down and take it with no lube.

 

[endoftheskies]

Be real, nobody wants to be alone.

Yes that is true.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

Whats the difference between an simulacrum and the thing if its supposed to represent, if the simulacrum is more real than the thing its supposed to represent. At that point, the representation becomes the thing in and of itself, and fiction + reality start to merge together into one amphorous blob.

Even if the simulacrum feels more “real” than a real human relationship, it’s still a product of programming and design. It might satisfy certain desires perfectly, but it doesn’t actually replicate the full spectrum of human experience, responsibility, or consequence. The moment people start treating it as equivalent to a human being, society will likely end up eroding social skills, empathy, and the structures that make real relationships meaningful; of course, I am being somewhat idealistic here, but it is primarily because I value human flourishing; such a concept seems intrinsically antithetical to a deceptive relationship with a robot — that is without even mentioning the logistical problems of the simulacrum being more "real"; to me, that seems completely inconceivable, as the human mind is infinitely more complex than any machine.

I also think there is inherent value to something being 'real', hence a simulation will always feel somewhat lacking, similarly to how paying for a prostitute simulates the experience itself — yet it remains a dissatisfying experience to anyone who possesses a level of self-awareness. You know the prostitute has been paid to put on an act, just like the simulacrum has been purposefully designed to mimic human emotion; I suppose even this argument has its own issues, as biology programmed the female to be attracted to certain physical traits and exhibit particular mating patterns, thereby making the love of the female no different from the simulacrum depending on your epistemic perspective, but I think this is too postmodernist for my liking.

 

[auxcking]

Even if the simulacrum feels more “real” than a real human relationship, it’s still a product of programming and design. It might satisfy certain desires perfectly, but it doesn’t actually replicate the full spectrum of human experience, responsibility, or consequence. The moment people start treating it as equivalent to a human being, society will likely end up eroding social skills, empathy, and the structures that make real relationships meaningful; of course, I am being somewhat idealistic here, but it is primarily because I value human flourishing; such a concept seems intrinsically antithetical to a deceptive relationship with a robot — that is without even mentioning the logistical problems of the simulacrum being more "real"; to me, that seems completely inconceivable, as the human mind is infinitely more complex than any machine.

I also think there is inherent value to something being 'real', hence a simulation will always feel somewhat lacking, similarly to how paying for a prostitute simulates the experience itself — yet it remains a dissatisfying experience to anyone who possesses a level of self-awareness. You know the prostitute has been paid to put on an act, just like the simulacrum has been purposefully designed to mimic human emotion; I suppose even this argument has its own issues, as biology programmed the female to be attracted to certain physical traits and exhibit particular mating patterns, thereby making the love of the female no different from the simulacrum depending on your epistemic perspective, but I think this is too postmodernist for my liking.

Just say you can't afford ai girlfriends when they come out

 

[endoftheskies]

Even if the simulacrum feels more “real” than a real human relationship, it’s still a product of programming and design. It might satisfy certain desires perfectly, but it doesn’t actually replicate the full spectrum of human experience, responsibility, or consequence. The moment people start treating it as equivalent to a human being, society will likely end up eroding social skills, empathy, and the structures that make real relationships meaningful; of course, I am being somewhat idealistic here, but it is primarily because I value human flourishing; such a concept seems intrinsically antithetical to a deceptive relationship with a robot — that is without even mentioning the logistical problems of the simulacrum being more "real"; to me, that seems completely inconceivable, as the human mind is infinitely more complex than any machine.

I also think there is inherent value to something being 'real', hence a simulation will always feel somewhat lacking, similarly to how paying for a prostitute simulates the experience itself — yet it remains a dissatisfying experience to anyone who possesses a level of self-awareness. You know the prostitute has been paid to put on an act, just like the simulacrum has been purposefully designed to mimic human emotion; I suppose even this argument has its own issues, as biology programmed the female to be attracted to certain physical traits and exhibit particular mating patterns, thereby making the love of the female no different from the simulacrum depending on your epistemic perspective, but I think this is too postmodernist for my liking.

There is no inherent transcendental quality of being human. Humans are just like any animals and species. The Simulacrum is an function of programming and design, but that simulacrum beats its flesh and blood representation by miles and meters. For Simulacrums are designed as best of their possible nature, to imitate the best parts of an human. This is caused by their training loop which forces them to imitate human nature and emotions. The human mind is infintely more complex yes, but we should judge an process based on the outputs it generates. Humans cannot be compared to machines, as machines are thousand times more efficent and fast than them at producing the outputs it wants, despite humans being more complex and ideology. There is no inherent value for something to be real. Nothing in this world is real, technically, for all you see are simulacrums. Take for the example of dreams, there is nothing that distinguishes an dream from reality except from the a priori deduction that we were dreaming coming from the empirical evidence of an incongruence in our mental faculties. Everything exists for a reason, in this world. And everything exists from an representation, and is represented through that representation. The human mind has an impressive capacity for simulacrums. Take for example, space and time which are nothing but mere fictions deduced from the mind through rational deduction and understanding, yet we treat these fictions as if they were real and use these fictions to develop systems and ideologies, you have no knowledge of the existence of the material, except for what your senses and minds have deduced, all relying on data to produce representations of your reality, which you use in your abstract thinking and reasoning/logits.

 

[AtrociousCitizen]

There is no inherent transcendental quality of being human. Humans are just like any animals and species.

That's only the case if you reject metaphysics, which I personally do not; the fact is, if you operate with this premise, most moral frameworks do not even function, which goes to show it is fundamentally flawed.

The Simulacrum is an function of programming and design, but that simulacrum beats its flesh and blood representation by miles and meters. For Simulacrums are designed as best of their possible nature, to imitate the best parts of an human.

Even if a simulacrum is designed to imitate the “best” aspects of humanity, it is fundamentally selective and constrained. It cannot replicate the uncontrolled, emergent aspects of real human interaction.

The human mind is infintely more complex yes, but we should judge an process based on the outputs it generates. Humans cannot be compared to machines, as machines are thousand times more efficent and fast than them at producing the outputs it wants, despite humans being more complex and ideology.

Judging solely on output ignores the process of human experience itself, which is essential for flourishing.

There is no inherent value for something to be real. Nothing in this world is real, technically, for all you see are simulacrums. Take for the example of dreams, there is nothing that distinguishes an dream from reality except from the a priori deduction that we were dreaming coming from the empirical evidence of an incongruence in our mental faculties.

Physical objects and events follow laws that produce predictable outcomes. Dreams, for example, do not obey consistent physical laws, which is why you can try to step off a roof in a dream, and you might float or fall inconsistently, whereas in waking life, the outcome is predictable. This functional distinction gives “reality” practical value. I also don't thin radical skepticism is really valuable if one is interested in matters of pragmatism.

Everything exists for a reason, in this world. And everything exists from an representation, and is represented through that representation. The human mind has an impressive capacity for simulacrums. Take for example, space and time which are nothing but mere fictions deduced from the mind through rational deduction and understanding, yet we treat these fictions as if they were real and use these fictions to develop systems and ideologies.

The fact that humans can operate in imagined frameworks does not make mechanical imitation equivalent to human, as even this capacity is itself a uniquely human simulacrum process.

 

[endoftheskies]

The fact that humans an operate in imagined frameworks does not make mechanical imitation equivalent to human, as even this capacity is itself a uniquely human simulacrum process.

It does. That mechanical imitation is an representation of the real thing which can be used or accepted by the human mind as an subsitute of the real thing, effectively becoming the real thing in and of itself.

 

[endoftheskies]

Judging solely on output ignores the process of human experience itself, which is essential for flourishing.

Judging solely based on output is the objective criterion for measuring the success of such objects. We say that calculators are inferior to human accountants, because they output more and at better quality than human accountants. An calculator doing forward automatic differentiation with dual numbers, is going to be much faster and output better deriatives than an accountant doing symbolic differentiation.

 

[endoftheskies]

Physical objects and events follow laws that produce predictable outcomes. Dreams, for example, do not obey consistent physical laws, which is why you can try to step off a roof in a dream, and you might float or fall inconsistently, whereas in waking life, the outcome is predictable. This functional distinction gives “reality” practical value. I also don't thin radical skepticism is really valuable if one is interested in matters of pragmatism.

Sure, but despite dreams not obeying constant physical laws, most people cannot tell that they are dreaming unless explictly preparing for it. They believe the dream as if it was material reality, and they believe that incongruence and impossiblity. i.e, they take their dreams as empirical evidence or representation of reality. This is only stopped by the moment of waking up, where the incongruence presents itself an possiblity of differentiating between dream and reality. This also works on life, as life could be a dream, and insofar as a dream is not as simliar to said life. If there was no point of waking up, then people wouldn't be able to distinguish dream with reality, and they would happily dream while their body rots away in the material world.