Discussion Does capitalism favor incels when ascending?

[etbrute]

Do you believe capitalism favors the incel, particularly ascending via moneymaxx? It's a cope to think that looks are the ONLY factor that matter when wanting to ascend. Your financial stability also matters. Some women will cope saying money doesn't matter, especially when they are young, but this changes when they approach their 30s. For the ones that want to have children, money is important. Can you both afford to raise children? No? She will look for someone that can fufill her dream. If she hasn't settled down with a Chad and is closely approaching 30s, standards will drop, and she will have to chose normie men that can provide. The normie (average looks + average height / or even below average)/incel has the chance to ascend via moneymaxx + status. For dating when young, money can matter too. Shit money = possibly shitty job = seen as less driven/passionate = not a good provider.

Now let's look at communism:
"A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour."

Money is no longer a factor for determining if you will make a decent partner. That factor is ripped away from brocels. Now there is a greater emphasis on looks, height, muh personality, and others.

So which is it for you?
Capitalism: Must wagie but has opportunity to ascend via moneymaxx + statusmaxx. Many rich men are would be incels if they didn't have status + money.
Communism: You accepted the complete blackpill and rottmaxx to the extreme. You can at least possibly NEET and do copemaxx.

what do you choose?

 

[Based Network]

Do you believe capitalism favors the incel, particularly ascending via moneymaxx? It's a cope to think that looks are the ONLY factor that matter when wanting to ascend. Your financial stability also matters. Some women will cope saying money doesn't matter, especially when they are young, but this changes when they approach their 30s. For the ones that want to have children, money is important. Can you both afford to raise children? No? She will look for someone that can fufill her dream. If she hasn't settled down with a Chad and is closely approaching 30s, standards will drop, and she will have to chose normie men that can provide. The normie (average looks + average height / or even below average)/incel has the chance to ascend via moneymaxx + status. For dating when young, money can matter too. Shit money = possibly shitty job = seen as less driven/passionate = not a good provider.

Now let's look at communism:
"A communist society is characterized by common ownership of the means of production with free access to the articles of consumption and is classless, stateless, and moneyless, implying the end of the exploitation of labour."

Money is no longer a factor for determining if you will make a decent partner. That factor is ripped away from brocels. Now there is a greater emphasis on looks, height, muh personality, and others.

So which is it for you?
Capitalism: Must wagie but has opportunity to ascend via moneymaxx + statusmaxx. Many rich men are would be incels if they didn't have status + money.
Communism: You accepted the complete blackpill and rottmaxx to the extreme. You can at least possibly NEET and do copemaxx.

what do you choose?

Money and status do not create genuine attraction and therefore money and status do not create genuine ascension.

 

[ramoscel]

Capitalism: Must wagie but has opportunity to ascend via moneymaxx + statusmaxx. Many rich men are would be incels if they didn't have status + money.
Communism: You accepted the complete blackpill and rottmaxx to the extreme. You can at least possibly NEET and do copemaxx.

in coomunist countries theres more incentive to reproduce with anyone possible, therefore inceldom in places like soviet russia or mao-era china was borderline extinct.

capitalism created the societies of today, where almost every country despises inceldom and even capitalizes off of loneliness (see dating apps or just japan in total)

 

[weaselbomber]

in coomunist countries theres more incentive to reproduce with anyone possible, therefore inceldom in places like soviet russia or mao-era china was borderline extinct.

That's not a good argument given that in the period those countries existed there were no demographic crises in the capitalist West as well. It was just a byproduct of the 20th century, happened everywhere. Everything's different in the 21st century, even if the Soviet Union by some sort of divine providence managed to not only stay afloat but stay true to Marxist dogma its demographics would collapse eventually as it is a result of its level of development, especially around Moscow and St. Petersburg.
The only exception is when a country is walled off and insular from the rest of the world like Turkmenistan and North Korea

 

[verybasedindeed]

The only socialism to ever work was that of pussy.

 

[Lonelyus]

Estimated number of victims. According to the introduction, the number of people killed by the Communist governments amounts to more than 94 million. The statistics of victims include deaths through executions, man-made hunger, famine, war, deportations, and forced labor.

Would not like to live under such a goverment where 94 million fucking died!

 

[ramoscel]

That's not a good argument given that in the period those countries existed there were no demographic crises in the capitalist West as well. It was just a byproduct of the 20th century, happened everywhere. Everything's different in the 21st century, even if the Soviet Union by some sort of divine providence managed to not only stay afloat but stay true to Marxist dogma its demographics would collapse eventually as it is a result of its level of development, especially around Moscow and St. Petersburg.
The only exception is when a country is walled off and insular from the rest of the world like Turkmenistan and North Korea

both turkmenistan and north korea are communist so my point stands

 

[weaselbomber]

both turkmenistan and north korea are communist so my point stands

I'm saying they lack incels because they're insular and isolated, no matter the ideology

 

[etbrute]

genuine ascension.

Why would you care about this? At least you can cope and delude yourself through a loving family (impossible they hate you). You ascended biologically speaking. muh emotionss.. JFL

in coomunist countries theres more incentive to reproduce with anyone possible, therefore inceldom in places like soviet russia or mao-era china was borderline extinct.

Is this true? Wasn't the incentive because they were poor and uneducated.

There is actually an article (not sure how valid studies are JFL) about women and sex during the soviet era. It can be summarized by a quote:

"Communist women enjoyed a degree of self-sufficiency that few Western women could have imagined. Eastern bloc women did not need to marry, or have sex, for money. The socialist state met their basic needs and countries such as Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia and East Germany committed extra resources to support single mothers, divorcées and widows."

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

no, ascension for ordinary or below-average males was more likely in many pre-capitalist patriarchal societies, and in more traditional societies

capitalism has fostered the rise of feminism and female choice, which is inimical to incels

 

[etbrute]

pre-capitalist patriarchal societies

Regardless of pre-capitalist/capitalist, they weren't communist.

 

[Based Network]

Why would you care about this? At least you can cope and delude yourself through a loving family (impossible they hate you). You ascended biologically speaking. muh emotionss.. JFL

genuine attraction is all that matters.

 

[aesthetic_recon]

Communism: You accepted the complete blackpill and rottmaxx to the extreme. You can at least possibly NEET and do copemaxx.

communism is degeneracymaxxing with trannies, destruction of family (i.e., kids raised communally), faggots everywhere, antisemitism warrants the death penalty (this is real: look up soviet union position on antisemitism)

i will forever oppose communism.

we need socialism on a national level.

we could call it "national socialism"

 

[ElTruecel]

The only socialism to ever work was that of pussy.

Socialism must be retaken from the left

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Does capitalism favor incels

No.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

Capitalism is neutral on the subject of inceldom. I can tell you that North Korea is also having a birth rate crisis, and if North Korea can't make women have kids with average men, the Soviets wouldn't be able to either.

Capitalism could be nominally better for us then communism simply because it allows for better copes. Shit like vidya would have never taken off in the USSR. In t he USSR, everything produced was produced to be redistributed. Computers likely wouldn't have become personal items, and thus things like the internet would never have taken off. Likewise, this means that gender relations would more or less stay as they were in the 80s. Better than now, but not by much, and every one of us would likely be stuck in some dead bedroom failed marriage, which is a fate worse than inceldom honestly.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Being moneymaxx isn't as important to get women anymore, as foids are able to get better salaries and careers because of affirmative action. So I'd say capitalism is neutral towards inceldom, but life is shit in socialist shitholes, so living in a capitalist country is better. Also don't forget that socialists push sexual liberation and degeneracy to destroy the fabric of society

 

[yung loner]

Capitalism favors human nature and darwinism, so it favors chads. Likelihood of getting hired in good jobs depends on looks, connections, and experiences. Few incels can successfully moneymaxx

 

[Incel TV]

No capitalism for your face