Does being into loli make someone a pedophile?

[FBI]

I am asking this out of boredom and curiosity. This is not a discussion about morality, legality, or whether it should be allowed. The only question here is whether being into loli makes someone a pedophile. Please explain your reasoning in detail rather than just leaving a short, perfunctory reply.

 

[AutistSupremacist]

Does killing someone in gtav make you a murderer?
Does using Pokemon to battle make you an animal abuser?

 

[Hoodpreet]

Depends on various contextual factors, like the specific age of the object(s) of sexual interest and how they're stylized appearance-wise, and the sexuality of the lolicon. I mention the latter factor because just given the general proportions that heteros and homos each make up of CSA offenders (relative to population size), I'm reasonably far more likely to feel suspicious of a bisexual or troon who's into lolicon than a normal, vanilla sexuality straight man who is

 

[FBI]

Does killing someone in gtav make you a murderer?
Does using Pokemon to battle make you an animal abuser?

I get the analogy, but let me play devil's advocate for a moment. Killing someone in GTA or sending out a Pokémon is clearly framed as a game mechanic with no sexual gratification attached, so no one interprets it as revealing your actual desires. Loli, on the other hand, is explicitly tied to sexual arousal, so people see it as reflecting some underlying attraction rather than just a fictional pastime. So the real debate is whether being aroused by fictionalized children is enough to meet that definition, or if the definition requires attraction to actual minors.

 

[VλREN]

Yeah probably

 

[FBI]

Yeah probably

Please explain your reasoning in detail rather than just leaving a short, perfunctory reply.

 

[VλREN]

Does watching gay porn make you a fag?

 

[pixy.]

Does watching gay porn make you a fag?

@weaselbomber well? Does it?

 

[AutistSupremacist]

@weaselbomber well? Does it?

and you know this.... how?

 

[unhingedsamsung]

I am suprised there’s no study on this tbh

 

[Hoodpreet]

I am suprised there’s no study on this tbh

Not enough mainstream attention on the topic. Could change with time

 

[Jimb0]

Idk I just don't like it

 

[H8mychudlife]

I am asking this out of boredom and curiosity. This is not a discussion about morality, legality, or whether it should be allowed. The only question here is whether being into loli makes someone a pedophile. Please explain your reasoning in detail rather than just leaving a short, perfunctory reply.

I voted that it's not pedophilia but it definitely has undertones. Personally I think ( This probably isn't by the textbook definition) that since the depicted charachters are fictional it does not fall into paedophilia. I don't watch anime but from the images shared from this forum and 4 chan it seems the underage characters are purposefully designed to accentuate neotonic features which many men find desirable.

 

[H8mychudlife]

I get the analogy, but let me play devil's advocate for a moment. Killing someone in GTA or sending out a Pokémon is clearly framed as a game mechanic with no sexual gratification attached, so no one interprets it as revealing your actual desires. Loli, on the other hand, is explicitly tied to sexual arousal, so people see it as reflecting some underlying attraction rather than just a fictional pastime. So the real debate is whether being aroused by fictionalized children is enough to meet that definition, or if the definition requires attraction to actual minors.

I don't really know for sure, but a main point of attraction for women is their carry hood of child like traits into adulthood. So pieces of media that are trying to capture this attraction to appeal to their audience wouldn't necessarily count as them soliciting cp

 

[unhingedsamsung]

Loli, on the other hand, is explicitly tied to sexual arousal,

Would you say the same for ones who have an incest kink?

Its pretty normalized in the porn world but how many of them who fap to incest taboos really fuck their sisters or mothers?

 

[unhingedsamsung]

lol speaking of lolicon I read an article where a stationed marine got court martialed because he had like 33 photos of cunny

 

[FBI]

Would you say the same for ones who have an incest kink?

Its pretty normalized in the porn world but how many of them who fap to incest taboos really fuck their sisters or mothers?

I would say incest porn is a little different because the "kink" part is often just a framing device layered on top of otherwise normal adult content. Most of the time the actors are clearly adults, so the taboo is in the narrative rather than the physical depiction. With loli, the depiction itself is of underage characters, so the association with pedophilia is inherent rather than just implied through a storyline. That does not mean everyone watching incest roleplay is secretly into their relatives, but with loli the jump people make is that the attraction centers on the childlike qualities themselves, not just a taboo scenario.

 

[LonerLothario]

Yeah probably

Definitely a correlation from what I've seen with others

 

[Simba]

Nah. It’s ain’t real. It’s pixels.

 

[TooSomething]

Yes, imo it does and I'd steer clear of such individuals.

 

[Morphine]

Yeah 100% and anyone who says otherwise is a loli watcher and is lying to your face

 

[KhatcodaiA3]

Specify the ages, it is <11/13 by definition but some people may think about <18

 

[nightbane]

Does watching gay porn make you a fag?

Probably. But you're not a complete fag until you actually do it physically in real life.

 

[KhatcodaiA3]

Probably. But you're not a complete fag until you actually do it physically in real life.

Yet one becomes a partial fag in the process until that day inevitably comes.

I propose to coin the term "praepedophile" for those who nut to loli

 

[ManOfVengeance]

Short answer if TLDR, No.

The sole debate over "is loli bad or not" is because the foid has the physical stature of one who happens to be young looking.
Does that make it bad? And my answer would be no, looks are seperate from the mental mind which is the main issue of the problem.
Though since we establish the fact that the looks have no bearing to the topic which it's importance is solely about neurology and aspects of mental development, then "it's bad because she looks young" is solely subjective and doesn't entail anything other then the speakers opinion on the matter.

Though the main concern would actually be "she has the mind of a young one"

Thus I conclude Physical body doesn't matter, the mental mind does.

 

[lnceI]

Yes of course. Jfl at the responses here

Short answer if TLDR, No.

The sole debate over "is loli bad or not" is because the foid has the physical stature of one who happens to be young looking.
Does that make it bad? And my answer would be no, looks are seperate from the mental mind which is the main issue of the problem.
Though since we establish the fact that the looks have no bearing to the topic which it's importance is solely about neurology and aspects of mental development, then "it's bad because she looks young" is solely subjective and doesn't entail anything other then the speakers opinion on the matter.

Though the main concern would actually be "she has the mind of a young one"

Thus I conclude Physical body doesn't matter, the mental mind does.

you seem to have the mental capacity of a child tho

 

[ManOfVengeance]

Yes of course. Jfl at the responses here

you seem to have the mental capacity of a child tho

I said on the subject of whether or not it's bad is dependent on the mental mind of said loli.

 

[lnceI]

I said on the subject of whether or not it's bad is dependent on the mental mind of said loli.

There is a clear definition of pedophelia. Wether you think it's bad or not is up to you but that's not what the question was about

 

[ManOfVengeance]

There is a clear definition of pedophelia. Wether you think it's bad or not is up to you but that's not what the question was about

Not all Loli's are prepubescent, Loli is defined as a foid who may look young, but it doesn't have to mean prepubescent.
It's solely on which Loli you would be refering to.

 

[Skelly]

What is this massive copium going on here?
Does watching anime gay porn not make me gay?

Does killing someone in gtav make you a murderer?
Does using Pokemon to battle make you an animal abuser?

Cope. One is fictional role play, the other is getting off to children. You cannot “role play” or separate yourself from that

 

[ManOfVengeance]

What is this massive copium going on here?
Does watching anime gay porn not make me gay?

Cope. One is fictional role play, the other is getting off to children. You cannot “role play” or separate yourself from that

Loli doesn't specifically mean young foid, it can mean foid with a youthful appearance aswell.
it depends.

 

[Skelly]

Would you say the same for ones who have an incest kink?

It’s pretty normalized in the porn world but how many of them who fap to incest taboos really fuck their sisters or mothers?

No because “incest porn” is just role play and you can separate yourself from it. You aren’t the one fucking your sister. You are simply attracted to an adult woman.
You can’t do the same with loli. No matter how you spin it you are still attracted to a prepubescent child. Even if you aren’t the one fucking her, you are still attracted to her, which is by definition pedophilia.

 

[Hoodpreet]

What is this massive copium going on here?
Does watching anime gay porn not make me gay?

Cope. One is fictional role play, the other is getting off to children. You cannot “role play” or separate yourself from that

No because “incest porn” is just role play and you can separate yourself from it. You aren’t the one fucking your sister. You are simply attracted to an adult woman.
You can’t do the same with loli. No matter how you spin it you are still attracted to a prepubescent child. Even if you aren’t the one fucking her, you are still attracted to her, which is by definition pedophilia.

 

[Skelly]

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Problem?

My logic is 100% sound. It’s literally in the name, (pedo = child, philia = love) fictional or otherwise

 

[Skelly]

Replace “lolicon” with “yaoi” and you’ll see how stupid you guys sound
“Ermm it’s not ACTUAL homosexuality, see it’s fictional!”
“I’m not attracted to real men, just fictional ones! I’m not gay at all!”

 

[Hoodpreet]

Problem?
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My logic is 100% sound. It’s literally in the name, (pedo = child, philia = love) fictional or otherwise

Mb I thought you were moral grandstanding. Guess you were just being literal about it.

Though I'm still surprised to see you openly embrace that label

 

[slavcel11]

loli is what, being attracted to little 2d anime cunts? Then probably yes

 

[pixy.]

and you know this.... how?

@weaselbomber is a notorious homosexual. They call him the booty butcher of the o block

 

[weaselbomber]

@pixy. is projecting, he's well known in the hidden LGBTQIA+ subforum that the jannies keep around to secure funding from the EU.

 

[BasedStalin]

Yes and that's ok.

 

[SociallyStupid]

It depends on why you are into it. With adults, a lot of skin is "wasted" as it is not the face (useful for looking at emotions), hands/feet (useful for interactions) or sexual organs (interaction and beautiful). So of course, the "Chibi" artstyle tries to solve this problem by compressing all this useless "empty" leg/arm/... space. However, the body proportions which result in that look inherently more loli or dwarf-like so I guess some people then also make them canonically lolis.

So IMHO if you just like less wasted space and thus prefer lolis it's not paedophilia, but if you are specifically into it because they are canonically young, then it sounds like paedophilia
.

 

[Rapistcel]

I am asking this out of boredom and curiosity. This is not a discussion about morality, legality, or whether it should be allowed. The only question here is whether being into loli makes someone a pedophile. Please explain your reasoning in detail rather than just leaving a short, perfunctory reply.

No, but I don't share that taste

 

[SociallyStupid]

So the real debate is whether being aroused by fictionalized children is enough to meet that definition, or if the definition requires attraction to actual minors.

I don't think it's enough because there are reasons not based on attraction to prefer (especially oppai) lolis

Does watching gay porn make you a fag?

No, because some hetero women watch (or read) gay porn just like hetero men watch lesbian porn. That said, if you are a man there is little reason to watch gay porn if you are not a fag as homosexual sex is worse than normal sex (unlike lolis, which are artistically 'better' than adult women)

You can’t do the same with loli. No matter how you spin it you are still attracted to a prepubescent child. Even if you aren’t the one fucking her, you are still attracted to her, which is by definition pedophilia.

You can still be attracted to the roleplay. DD/LG is a normal adult roleplay and I guess if you are into it, you might want to have a more realistic "depiction"

 

[The Scarlet Prince]

It wouldn’t say it makes one into a pedophile entirely, but it certainly has those undertones. That is, despite it being fictional, all you have to ask a lolicon is “okay, but why do you want to jerk off to this in lieu of a regular anime girl?”

And the reason is going to be “because it looks like a child, and they like the ‘taboo’ nature of consuming this stuff.”

I look at in the same way as fictional incest. I don’t think the people themselves would often actually like to have sex with their siblings, but the idea surely turns them on.

All that being said, I almost never see lolicons evolve into real pedophiles—so I leave them be, even if I find their kink weird. Unless it’s a troon, that is. If it’s a troon, I’m going to be extremely concerned.

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Yes and it is fucking based

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Yes and that's ok.

Stalin is Loli Pilled based

 

[EcstasyCel]

Yes and it is fucking based

This

 

[aryanmikmaq]

Would you say the same for ones who have an incest kink?

Its pretty normalized in the porn world but how many of them who fap to incest taboos really fuck their sisters or mothers?

I like incest and loli

 

[aryanmikmaq]

lol speaking of lolicon I read an article where a stationed marine got court martialed because he had like 33 photos of cunny

W marine

 

[Rotten Roadkill]

Honestly as long it's not real children it's not a big deal, no matter what normies say. I can see where the appeal lies personally, but making it your whole personality is cringe