Kent
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Are we going to war over refugee migrants, I just don't get?
We are going to war because Israel doesn't like strong Arab nations surrounding them. If the USA and Russia nuke each other and destroy the world then its a bonus to them, because we are all goy and they are the chosen people, and some obscure jewish prophecy can only come about once we are all gone.
but wouldn't someone just take out Israel?
now it really is over for Europe if migrants come.
This is a very complicated topic. One of the major motivations for attempting to over throw Assad in the first place was that the US and its corporate masters want to build a pipeline across the country and into Turkey in order to bring Middle eastern gas from the Gulf to Europe. Syria is outside of the globalist system and are allies of the Russians. Who just so happen to be the other major gas suppliers into Europe. Syria is also a staunch Russian ally and the US are desperate to isolate and encircle Russia in their geopolitical strategy. Since 2008 however the Russians have pushed back with the Georgia war and the recent war in Ukraine.
The Israel lobby also has a significant say in this. Syria and Israel have fought several wars and Israel currently occupies the Syrian territory of the Golan heights. If you ever visit Israel you can see its strategic importance. Whoever controls the heights controls Israel. Israel and Syria have fought several battles over it the nastiest being in the 1973 Yom Kippur war when Syria and Egypt launched a surprise attack on Israel. Israel ultimately prevailed in the war. Everyone is well aware that the Israelis have had nuclear weapons since the late 1960's. In response the Syrians have stockpiled chemical weapons in response. Western support for Israel in 1973 lead to the oil embargo. In exchange for ending the oil embargo Richard Nixon negotiated a treaty with the House of Saud where the US guarantees their protection and continued dominion over the oil fields in KSA.
A few years later Henry Kissinger divided the Arab nations in the peace talks and helped to conclude a separate peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. Hafez al-Assad the president of Syria (Assad's father) took this personally and vowed revenge against America. In 1983 the opportunity presented itself. The US deployed Marines to Lebanon during the civil war. So Assad and the new regime in Iran the ayatollah and the newly created Hezzbollah staged the suicide bombing of the Marine barracks. Reagan had the sense to withdraw when his administration came to realise just how irrational the region was.
It was also during the early 1980's when the US assisted Saddam Hussien to wage war on Iran. There is serious rivallry in this region between the mostly Shi'ite Iran and the Sunni dominated Saudi Arabia. In Iraq prior to 2003 the Sunni minority dominated Iraq through Saddam's Baath party (which was a loose canon attacking KSA in the 1991 Gulf war but was an important buffer state). Opressing the Shi'ite majority. Since the fall of Saddam and "democracy" in Iraq theocratical Shi'ite politcs has dominated Iraq. Expanding Irans influence right up to KSA's borders. KSA funded Islamic militants like IS along with the US to topple Assad who heads various sects including Shi'ite and Christians who oppose the hard line theocratic wahabism of KSA. Both have an interest in removing Assad. The US desires to get revenge for Syria's numerous strikes against them including the aforementioned bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983. Syria mounted numerous terrorist operations for which Libya was blamed (and Ghaddaffi was happy to play along) as well as probably having some involvement (along with Iran) of the Lockerbie bombing.
The US, Israel and KSA all want rid of Assad and will try anything to do it.
The US, Israel and KSA all want rid of Assad and will try anything to do it.
This is a very complicated topic. One of the major motivations for attempting to over throw Assad in the first place was that the US and its corporate masters want to build a pipeline across the country and into Turkey in order to bring Middle eastern gas from the Gulf to Europe. Syria is outside of the globalist system and are allies of the Russians. Who just so happen to be the other major gas suppliers into Europe. Syria is also a staunch Russian ally and the US are desperate to isolate and encircle Russia in their geopolitical strategy. Since 2008 however the Russians have pushed back with the Georgia war and the recent war in Ukraine.
The Israel lobby also has a significant say in this. Syria and Israel have fought several wars and Israel currently occupies the Syrian territory of the Golan heights. If you ever visit Israel you can see its strategic importance. Whoever controls the heights controls Israel. Israel and Syria have fought several battles over it the nastiest being in the 1973 Yom Kippur war when Syria and Egypt launched a surprise attack on Israel. Israel ultimately prevailed in the war. Everyone is well aware that the Israelis have had nuclear weapons since the late 1960's. In response the Syrians have stockpiled chemical weapons in response. Western support for Israel in 1973 lead to the oil embargo. In exchange for ending the oil embargo Richard Nixon negotiated a treaty with the House of Saud where the US guarantees their protection and continued dominion over the oil fields in KSA.
A few years later Henry Kissinger divided the Arab nations in the peace talks and helped to conclude a separate peace agreement between Israel and Egypt. Hafez al-Assad the president of Syria (Assad's father) took this personally and vowed revenge against America. In 1983 the opportunity presented itself. The US deployed Marines to Lebanon during the civil war. So Assad and the new regime in Iran the ayatollah and the newly created Hezzbollah staged the suicide bombing of the Marine barracks. Reagan had the sense to withdraw when his administration came to realise just how irrational the region was.
It was also during the early 1980's when the US assisted Saddam Hussien to wage war on Iran. There is serious rivallry in this region between the mostly Shi'ite Iran and the Sunni dominated Saudi Arabia. In Iraq prior to 2003 the Sunni minority dominated Iraq through Saddam's Baath party (which was a loose canon attacking KSA in the 1991 Gulf war but was an important buffer state). Opressing the Shi'ite majority. Since the fall of Saddam and "democracy" in Iraq theocratical Shi'ite politcs has dominated Iraq. Expanding Irans influence right up to KSA's borders. KSA funded Islamic militants like IS along with the US to topple Assad who heads various sects including Shi'ite and Christians who oppose the hard line theocratic wahabism of KSA. Both have an interest in removing Assad. The US desires to get revenge for Syria's numerous strikes against them including the aforementioned bombing of the Marine barracks in 1983. Syria mounted numerous terrorist operations for which Libya was blamed (and Ghaddaffi was happy to play along) as well as probably having some involvement (along with Iran) of the Lockerbie bombing.
The US, Israel and KSA all want rid of Assad and will try anything to do it.
This is a dumb question but why didn't someone just individually takeout Assad.
Remember how long it took them to find Saddam? Eventually they found him in a small underground people after his bodyguards gave him up for the bounty. Assad has the resources of the Syrian state as well as Russian help, a significant proportion of the Syrian population support Assad as they fear what will happen if the terrorists win. Syria also has in a place a more modern Russian built and maintained anti-air defenses. With a modern assortment of SAM's, Radars and fire controls as well as Russian jets patrolling the airspace.
Its next to impossible to get him. Syria is not Libya or Iraq. Its proven far more resilient despite its deep ethnic differences. It also helps that the Russians and Hezbollah are directly supporting him.