Does anyone have a Bloated face?

[iiiTeMpeR]

Bloated face is a death sentence, it makes you look like a really ugly baby, it removes all your dimorphism, and the thing is? You don't even have to be fat, I'm at 18% (average) yet my face looks like a 30% bf obese reddit neckbeard. Not to mention it makes me look like an egg!

Anyone else?

 

[CopingGymcel]

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.

How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake, drink more water and mega dose vitamin C (2-3g a day). That's it.

 

[iiiTeMpeR]

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.

How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake, drink more water and mega dose vitamin C (2-3mg a day). That's it.

I'm currently doing no carbs as suggested by zyros, how long did it take you to look fit?

 

[overlystinkypants]

How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake

Simpler answer? What specific things should I drink/eat and what to avoid?

 

[Jockcel]

I have a baby face. Nuff said.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Noted

Will this be enough to get me to 10% bf? That’s my goal for this year

You're face has 0% bloat, so you don't have to think about that. 

If you want to lose weight, you need to eat at a caloric deficit. Try to keep protein high, as it's muscle sparring (you want most of the weight loss to come from fat, not muscle). Don't eat at a higher caloric deficit than 500 (to not lose muscle).

Increasing height will be harder in a caloric deficit, though.

 

[Octopusgun2]

Yes, my face is bloated AF and gives me chubby cheeks. But I think that has much to do with my subhuman bones.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Simpler answer? What specific things should I drink/eat and what to avoid?

I updated my post, look at it again, but those two are the most important by far.

Stay away from processed food, basically. A Big Mac has 1g of sodium in it (that's a lot). If want to be extra autistic about it, look up the nutritional values of the foods you eat and calculate how much sodium you eat each day. It's suppose to between 1500 to 2300 according to "the institute of medicine", but what do those guys know about aesthetics anyway. Try to keep it below a gram a day and it shouldn't bloat you.

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I'm currently doing no carbs as suggested by zyros, how long did it take you to look fit?

The dbol gave me crazy strength and muscle gains, but it made me look like shit, because it gave me a moon face. The bloat was gone pretty much only days after I quit using it (it has a very short half life). I may try dbol again next bulk (the gains are just too crazy, testosterone just can't compare), but at a lower dose and I'll use a higher AI dose.

 

[rotandrise]

I updated my post, look at it again, but those two are the most important by far.

Stay away from processed food, basically. A Big Mac has 1g of sodium in it (that's a lot). If want to be extra autistic about it, look up the nutritional values of the foods you eat and calculate how much sodium you eat each day. It's suppose to between 1500 to 2300 according to "the institute of medicine", but what do those guys know about aesthetics anyway. Try to keep it below a gram a day and it shouldn't bloat you.

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The dbol gave me crazy strength and muscle gains, but it made me look like shit, because it gave me a moon face. The bloat was gone pretty much only days after I quit using it (it has a very short half life). I may try dbol again next bulk (the gains are just too crazy, testosterone just can't compare), but at a lower dose and I'll use a higher AI dose.

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IIRC Tren is basically enhanced Dbol that doesn't cause any water retention. You ever tried tren ?

 

[CopingGymcel]

My face has a fair bit of bloating. I want to be as lean as zyros so that my bone structure is more visible and that I have hollow cheeks

You post lots of pics of your face, I see no bloat. You don't have the bone structure right now for hollow cheeks. It requires wide and forward set cheekbones, of which you have neither. You have a good face (well above average), but your bones are lacking, as you know. No amount of body fat will give you hollow cheeks, but it can give you a more pronounced jawline, which is why it's worth losing a little bit of weight. 

I'm just saying it as it is, red pill style, don't expect to get hollow cheeks. It's not like hollow cheeks makes a huge difference for appearance anyway, it's very minor.

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IIRC Tren is basically enhanced Dbol that doesn't cause any water retention. You ever tried tren ?

I would like to keep my hair. Finasteride lets me use dbol without losing my hair, but it won't save me from tren.

I'm going to use some anavar at the end of my cut, so that will pretty cool. Can't wait to try it, so many different opinions on that drug. I've heard it gives sick pumps and gives you a bit of roundness without filling your muscles with water. Decent strength gains (good for sparring muscle) and it has a small fat burning effect. Perfect for the last month when I need to get super lean.

 

[ItWontBeMe]

Just lol @ how behind you former reddit cucks are on this looksmaxing thing.

Assuming that you're already at a good body fat % (10% to 13%)...

To reduce a bloated face, reduce your sodium intake and maximize your Vitamin C intake (no, don't take GMO Vit C tablets, but get organic camu powder from your local whole foods store which is like $30 for a small package, but it's the most potent source of Vitamin C in the world).

Vitamin C is known to help with water retention.

Take up to 2000% of Vitamin C per day. (Up to 2000% of Vitamin C intake per day is "safe" according to Mayo Clinic, if you're one to trust so-called authoritative sources).

Thank me later.





PS:

Does this guy with chubby cheeks lose any looks points?

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outb4 he doesn't have chubby cheeks bro

 

[Götterdämmerung]

I have very fat cheeks (not because I'm overweight, I'm 132 lbs and 5'9" tall) which combined with my acne make me look like a hideous chipmunk.

 

[iiiTeMpeR]

I updated my post, look at it again, but those two are the most important by far.

Stay away from processed food, basically. A Big Mac has 1g of sodium in it (that's a lot). If want to be extra autistic about it, look up the nutritional values of the foods you eat and calculate how much sodium you eat each day. It's suppose to between 1500 to 2300 according to "the institute of medicine", but what do those guys know about aesthetics anyway. Try to keep it below a gram a day and it shouldn't bloat you.

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The dbol gave me crazy strength and muscle gains, but it made me look like shit, because it gave me a moon face. The bloat was gone pretty much only days after I quit using it (it has a very short half life). I may try dbol again next bulk (the gains are just too crazy, testosterone just can't compare), but at a lower dose and I'll use a higher AI dose.

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What is dbol?

 

[CopingGymcel]

What is dbol?

Dianabol. One of the most potent steroids out there in terms of strength and size. Lots of water gain, though.

You put on lots of size fast (water) and strength. But what most people don't realize is it's one of the steroids with the most muscle growth in the shortest amount possible (they only focus on the fake size they lose after they come off it).

It would be the ideal drug if it didn't make your face look like utter shit for the weeks you're on it. It can be managed somewhat with not taking a huge dose (don't go above 30, I used 50) and taking enough AI.

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Alright, not that much of a big deal then. However it’s probably still worth getting to a lower bf if it’ll improve my jawline. Is 10% realistic though from just cutting carbs and sodium?

You won't lose body fat from cutting out sodium and carbs unless it makes you eat less calories. To lose weight, you need to eat less calories than you need every day. Find out your TDEE and reduce calories by 300-500.

 

[itsOVER]

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.
How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake, drink more water and mega dose vitamin C (2-3g a day). That's it.

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.
How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake. Megadose vitamin C (2-3mg a day). That's it.

Noted
Will this be enough to get me to 10% bf? That’s my goal for this year

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.
How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake, drink more water and mega dose vitamin C (2-3mg a day). That's it.

I'm currently doing no carbs as suggested by zyros, how long did it take you to look fit?

Copers read my thread. If your bones are recessed, dropping sodium does NOTHING for you. https://incels.is/Thread-ITT-I-prove-why-reducing-water-retention-won-t-help-your-face

 

[Sub24inchSkull]

I had it when I was on dbol. Looked much much worse instantly.

How to remove bloat: Reduce sodium and carbohydrate intake, drink more water and mega dose vitamin C (2-3g a day). That's it.

Is Vitamin C intake just a meme or have you actually seen results?

 

[CopingGymcel]

Is Vitamin C intake just a meme or have you actually seen results?

It made my face carry less water, so it definitely works.

 

[ItWontBeMe]

I'm the one who popularized the Vit C for hollow cheek meme on PSL.

Gotta love when former reddit cucks stumble upon something and claim it as their own.

Are you gonna take my palpebral fissure length theory next?

inb4 Megadosing on Vit C is already common knowledge.

 

[rotandrise]

You post lots of pics of your face, I see no bloat. You don't have the bone structure right now for hollow cheeks. It requires wide and forward set cheekbones, of which you have neither. You have a good face (well above average), but your bones are lacking, as you know. No amount of body fat will give you hollow cheeks, but it can give you a more pronounced jawline, which is why it's worth losing a little bit of weight. 

I'm just saying it as it is, red pill style, don't expect to get hollow cheeks. It's not like hollow cheeks makes a huge difference for appearance anyway, it's very minor.

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I would like to keep my hair. Finasteride lets me use dbol without losing my hair, but it won't save me from tren.

I'm going to use some anavar at the end of my cut, so that will pretty cool. Can't wait to try it, so many different opinions on that drug. I've heard it gives sick pumps and gives you a bit of roundness without filling your muscles with water. Decent strength gains (good for sparring muscle) and it has a small fat burning effect. Perfect for the last month when I need to get super lean.

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I see. I am gonna do a anavar+test cycle around april or may to cut.

 

[CopingGymcel]

I see. I am gonna do a anavar+test cycle  around april or may to cut.

Sounds like a solid plan. How much test and anavar? I want to try 1g of test for my next bulking cycle if I get my hands on some dutasteride. Right now I'm cutting on 300mg of test (will add anavar in the last month, probably 60mg or so, as it's very expensive) and I was bulking on 500mg of test and 750mg of EQ before the cut.

 

[rotandrise]

Sounds like a solid plan. How much test and anavar? I want to try 1g of test for my next bulking cycle if I get my hands on some dutasteride. Right now I'm cutting on 300mg of test (will add anavar in the last month, probably 60mg or so, as it's very expensive) and I was bulking on 500mg of test and 750mg of EQ before the cut.

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEyq9CaVDs[/video]

I am gonna do this guy's cycle + keto. Never juiced before so I am not very knowledgeable tbh What do you suggest for a first cycle cutting ? I am around %22 bf hoping to at least drop 18 lbs of fat in 8 weeks.

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

Yes, I'm fatmaxing at the moment.

 

[CopingGymcel]

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEyq9CaVDs[/video]

I am gonna do this guy's cycle + keto. Never juiced before so I am not very knowledgeable tbh What do you suggest for a first cycle cutting ? I am around %22 bf hoping to at least drop 18 lbs of fat in 8 weeks.

If it's your first cycle, I recommend doing it as a bulk instead. Don't waste your first cycle on a cut. 

500mg of test for 4-6 months is a good first bulking cycle.

If you want to get really lean, it will probably take more than 8 weeks, 3-4 months at least. Just get lean first, then do your bulking cycle. Even if you lose some muscle in the cut, you'll gain it back easily.

I wouldn't recommend keto with steroids, as you want carbohydrates for optimal strength gains, but that's just me.

 

[itsOVER]

The cope is strong in this thread.

 

[rotandrise]

If it's your first cycle, I recommend doing it as a bulk instead. Don't waste your first cycle on a cut. 

500mg of test for 4-6 months is a good first bulking cycle.

If you want to get really lean, it will probably take more than 8 weeks, 3-4 months at least. Just get lean first, then do your bulking cycle. Even if you lose some muscle in the cut, you'll gain it back easily.

I wouldn't recommend keto with steroids, as you want carbohydrates for optimal strength gains, but that's just me.

Got it. In that case I will start cutting right away for around 3 months.

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The cope is strong in this thread.

My bones aren't that subhuman boyo.I can see the difference on my face between me being lean(pics from 5 years ago) and fat(right now). CopingGymcel already said he has good bone structure.

 

[CopingGymcel]

Got it. In that case I will start cutting right away for around 3 months.

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My bones aren't that subhuman boyo.I can see the difference on my face between me being lean(pics from 5 years ago) and fat(right now). CopingGymcel already said he has good bone structure.

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I noticed something about that video you linked (just watched it). Why is he taking 50mg of arimidex a day? For one, Arimidex usually comes in 0.75mg-1.25mg tablets and you don't take 7mg a week (if he meant 0.5mg instead of 50mg), as it will completely kill your estrogen.

I used 0.25mg twice a week (pharma grade) with 500mg test a week and I had no bloat or eststrogen side-effects, any higher and my bones would start aching. plus my penis would stop working properly. If you take too much arimidex, you will feel like absolute shit and make less progress in the gym.

25mg of anavar is a really low dose for a male, even if it's 100% pure pharma grade (very expensive and what he has is not pharma). You want at least 40mg a day to feel any effect. 

It seems like what he got was fake arimidex and fake anavar (probably trying to promote fake shit to his subscribers).

 

[iiiTeMpeR]

I'm the one who popularized the Vit C for hollow cheek meme on PSL.

Gotta love when former reddit cucks stumble upon something and claim it as their own.

Are you gonna take my palpebral fissure length theory next?

inb4 Megadosing on Vit C is already common knowledge.

Were you not a "reddit cuck" since /r/incels?

 

[rotandrise]

I noticed something about that video you linked (just watched it). Why is he taking 50mg of arimidex a day? For one, Arimidex usually comes in 0.75mg-1.25mg tablets and you don't take 7mg a week (if he meant 0.5mg instead of 50mg), as it will completely kill your estrogen.

I used 0.25mg twice a week (pharma grade) with 500mg test a week and I had no bloat or eststrogen side-effects, any higher and my bones would start aching. plus my penis would stop working properly. If you take too much arimidex, you will feel like absolute shit and make less progress in the gym.

25mg of anavar is a really low dose for a male, even if it's 100% pure pharma grade (very expensive and what he has is not pharma). You want at least 40mg a day to feel any effect. 

It seems like what he got was fake arimidex and fake anavar (probably trying to promote fake shit to his subscribers).

Yeah he says 0.5 mg/day in the video.  Maybe he relied on test ? idk He doesn't link any products

 

[Grotesque]

My bloating hides the shattered bone in my face.