Does anyone feel like their virginity isn’t the main issue in their lives?

[Deleted member 41516]

I feel as if mental issues and past bullying/ trauma is at the root cause of my depression. The virginity plays a part for sure, but I feel like it’s not the main issue here. I almost feel as if it wouldn’t change much, I know this sounds bluepilled to ask, but would finding a purpose actually help with the depression and suicidal ideation? Obviously it wouldn’t solve the inceldom but still

 

[blackpillscience]

I feel as if mental issues and past bullying/ trauma is at the root cause of my depression. The virginity plays a part for sure, but I feel like it’s not the main issue here. I almost feel as if it wouldn’t change much, I know this sounds bluepilled to ask, but would finding a purpose actually help with the depression and suicidal ideation? Obviously it wouldn’t solve the inceldom but still

Having a purpose (copes) will definitely help. Even if it’s volunteering at a Animal shelter or picking up trash. Sitting around doing nothing is going to make you feel worse.

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Having a purpose (copes) will definitely help. Even if it’s volunteering at a Animal shelter or picking up trash. Sitting around doing nothing is going to make you feel worse.

Is volunteering actually legit? I’m about to get on disability so I don’t wanna sit around the house sinking into deeper depression

 

[blackpillscience]

Is volunteering actually legit? I’m about to get on disability so I don’t wanna sit around the house sinking into deeper depression

Volunteering is just an example. Gym , riding a bike , fishing , hiking etc… you need to get outside. Humans aren’t meant to rot inside all day

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Is there anything your passionate about?

No sadly, I can’t find joy in any copes

 

[jerkjocky]

any major issue you currently experience would be gone if you were chad. "issues" that chad have pales in comparison to what you experience now. your brain is just trying to cope with "bababut muh depression n shieet" etc.

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Have you tried spiritually?

How do you do that? I don’t believe in god but from my understanding spirituality is different

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

How do you do that? I don’t believe in god but from my understanding spirituality is different

Ok GrAYcel, try dharmamaxxing. Look into it as the dharmic faiths aren’t religions. Thats the common western misconception about them. they’re not about praising some pie in the sky skydaddy. Rather, its more about connecting with your own innate divinity within.

 

[ControlledInsanity]

The existence of spirits is relatively easy to prove. You'd have to preform occult rituals, until you see, or interact with a supernatural entity. If you go into the ritual with a skeptical/atheistic/scientific attitude, you won't get any results, you have to believe in magick for it to work.

I have a thread debunking atheism.

Irish lad effortlessly debunks atheism

incels.is

Don't just go slinging a guy into that. One needs to be prepared, and very cautious. I didn't realize there are little things that make a huge difference, such as saying goodbye before removing your hands from the planchette. You could end up with unwanted activity.

 

[aeoae]

I feel as if mental issues and past bullying/ trauma is at the root cause of my depression. The virginity plays a part for sure, but I feel like it’s not the main issue here. I almost feel as if it wouldn’t change much, I know this sounds bluepilled to ask, but would finding a purpose actually help with the depression and suicidal ideation? Obviously it wouldn’t solve the inceldom but still

100% it would. I'll say it again. 100% it would help. But finding what you enjoy and then committing yourself to getting really, really fucking good at it takes a willpower that most don't have, and it takes courage to try a lot of things which you'll eventually dislike in the hopes of finding one or two that you do. If you have the opportunity to try and find a purpose without sinking into college debt, do it. Might as well before you rope.

I would start with reading some basic-bitch philosophy books like the Bardo Thodol, Man's Search for Meaning, and (a bit more esoteric) the Devils of Loudon. If you want I can give you a longer, more thought-out list. Books legitimately changed my life and helped me get clean from drugs, so maybe they can help you too.

 

[wei#3959]

well ya anyone can lose their virginity if they went to see an escort

 

[aeoae]

The existence of spirits is relatively easy to prove. You'd have to preform occult rituals, until you see, or interact with a supernatural entity. If you go into the ritual with a skeptical/atheistic/scientific attitude, you won't get any results, you have to believe in magick for it to work.

I have a thread debunking atheism.

Irish lad effortlessly debunks atheism

incels.is

Magic is just systematic self-delusion.

 

[aeoae]

Have you ever tried it?

Yes, actually. My best friend at community college was deep into Wicca and the Occult. I would help him with his ceremonies in the forest outside Bend. I had a good time, but later he had a schizophrenic break and we no longer talk.

If you're someone who seeks meaning as a necessity, could magic be good? Sure. But so could therapy or actual religion. I argue that actual, organized religions give you much more meaning than any applewood wands will.

Outside of the internal, the external is clearly mechanistic. LSD and DMT interact with brain chemistry. Prayers do not get answered through material influence. If God exists, then he's a distinterested/sadistic/non-anthropomorphic alien, and number squares won't cure typhus.

 

[aeoae]

Magick is real

I like you, so I'm going to humor you.

Let's say that magic is real. I don't know what rituals you do or what school you ascribe to, but that's beside the point here.

Do you actually understand the mechanism by which magic works? If you're bargaining with a spirit, what are the 'rules' of this spirit? Not just the spirit's behavior, but what is the spirit made of? How does it relate to humanity? What realm does it exist in? Do they multiply? Do spirits have spirits and do gods have gods?

You may have an actual answer for me. But then think about where you got that answer from. You bought a book from a friend or a bookstore, or you found a website with PDFs of a grimoire. How do they know the mechanism by which magic works? Are you sure they actually know? What if they don't?

And if your response is: 'you're missing the point, if it works it works, right?'. Not necessarily. If your goal is to use these guides as templates for your own ritual practices, ask yourself how many trials you would need to complete to have a well-defined idea of cause and effect? What N count are you looking for? Have these texts been assessed by multiple occult experts, with a clear, systematic approach to analysis? I know the answer is no, because occult people are like starving cats. They'll find every reason under the sun to never collaborate with others, because everyone has their ideas. Everyone thinks they're special, and that they alone know the real secrets of reality. And they'll eat eachother to become the new 'expert' people are whispering about.

Do you actually think the authors of your books have done that? Have they been that systematic?

Here's why this is important: if magic is real, then what you're doing is opening a conversation between your soul and an infuential force whose nature you do not know (cannot actually know), and whose intentions/behavior you assume will remain consistent across all of your rituals, and who, under specific circumstances, you assume must be honest and honor the contracts given to it, because of [...]. Do you see how silly this is? You're opening yourself up to forces that you have no fucking idea about. Not really.

Lucifer is made of smokeless fire but comes as an angel of light. You could have thousands of dead, twisted, horrific entities raping your soul right now because you started a conversation and you'd be none the wiser.

If 'magic' is real, practicing it is unbelievably foolish.

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Music has been an extremely positive part of my life. Are interested in music, or art, it can be very fulfilling. My songs are like my children to me.

I already ruined my life I’m afraid man

 

[LesscoBlob]

any major issue you currently experience would be gone if you were chad. "issues" that chad have pales in comparison to what you experience now. your brain is just trying to cope with "bababut muh depression n shieet" etc.

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Aren't you 17, your young enough to turn your life around

18 man but I was doing meth. Isn’t it over?

 

[aeoae]

I believe in magick because I've been harassed/attacked by paranormal entities since I was 13, with 1 extreme encounter.

What were your experiences?

 

[Deleted member 41516]

Your young enough to bounce back from meth use.

So at 18 you can turn around pretty much anything ?

 

[ControlledInsanity]

I believe in magick because I've been harassed/attacked by paranormal entities since I was 13, with 1 extreme encounter.

You mind sharing any?

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I feel as if mental issues and past bullying/ trauma is at the root cause of my depression. The virginity plays a part for sure, but I feel like it’s not the main issue here. I almost feel as if it wouldn’t change much, I know this sounds bluepilled to ask, but would finding a purpose actually help with the depression and suicidal ideation? Obviously it wouldn’t solve the inceldom but still

i said in a different thread it's not about sex, but its about being a piece of shit and getting unconditional lust. It's about being yourself and being loved in spite of it-- this is the kind of affection only certain kinds of Chads who never worked a day in their life get.

 

[SoloAlex]

No, I will die alone, that’s the main issue