Hey brocels, hope you all are having a good day.
I would like to preface this by saying, this is a thought experiment, since as an incel like you guys, I couldn't even have kids even if I wanted to.
I have been thinking about this for a while now, and I have come to the conclusion that even if I was a normie with a relationship, I wouldn't want to have children because I think it is pointless to have children. All of here know life is mostly just suffering, and I am sure many of us wish we were never been born. I often wish my parents were child-free so I would not have to exist and endure hardship. I am sure it is very common to feel this way. But obviously, most people who feel the same way about life as I do, which is a good chunk of the human population, don't commit suicide, because of the fear of death, and to avoid inflicting a massive amount of suffering on their loved ones.
When a person has a child, they have no idea how everything will turn out. There is a high risk that the kid would endure a life full of misery, and wish they were never born. However, the kid never asked to be born. It was forced upon them by their parents. All the suffering could have been avoided just if the parents did not have children. Nobody deserves to have to suffer, just because someone else decided to bring them into it.
There is also a more selfish reason to be against having children, which is avoiding seeing your children suffer. It is painful for parents to see their children end up suffering. Nobody wants to see their kid end up as a failure. Imagine spending so much time and effort raising a child, just for him to end up like this. There is not even considering the immense amount of pain you may end up feeling if your child losses their life. Therefore by not having children, you are sparing yourself from having to suffer seeing your children not end up the way you wanted.
Whenever I see random strangers in unfortunate situations, such as a homeless drug addict, or a suicidal person wage-salving at a dead-end job, I think about how much suffering could have been avoided if their parents choose not to have kids. So much misery could disappear just not by having children.
I know personally, that even in the impossible scenario that I ascended and have the option of having children, I would choose not to because I know that if I have a son, he will probably end up like me, and It would pain me so much to see him end up like that. Not to mention the amount of work and effort I will have to put into raising a child, that I could have otherwise used to improve my own quality of life.
In conclusion, I do believe that it is wrong to have children because you are just risking bringing another person into this world of suffering against their will.
Please do share your opinion of the morality of having children. Thanks.
I would like to preface this by saying, this is a thought experiment, since as an incel like you guys, I couldn't even have kids even if I wanted to.
I have been thinking about this for a while now, and I have come to the conclusion that even if I was a normie with a relationship, I wouldn't want to have children because I think it is pointless to have children. All of here know life is mostly just suffering, and I am sure many of us wish we were never been born. I often wish my parents were child-free so I would not have to exist and endure hardship. I am sure it is very common to feel this way. But obviously, most people who feel the same way about life as I do, which is a good chunk of the human population, don't commit suicide, because of the fear of death, and to avoid inflicting a massive amount of suffering on their loved ones.
When a person has a child, they have no idea how everything will turn out. There is a high risk that the kid would endure a life full of misery, and wish they were never born. However, the kid never asked to be born. It was forced upon them by their parents. All the suffering could have been avoided just if the parents did not have children. Nobody deserves to have to suffer, just because someone else decided to bring them into it.
There is also a more selfish reason to be against having children, which is avoiding seeing your children suffer. It is painful for parents to see their children end up suffering. Nobody wants to see their kid end up as a failure. Imagine spending so much time and effort raising a child, just for him to end up like this. There is not even considering the immense amount of pain you may end up feeling if your child losses their life. Therefore by not having children, you are sparing yourself from having to suffer seeing your children not end up the way you wanted.
Whenever I see random strangers in unfortunate situations, such as a homeless drug addict, or a suicidal person wage-salving at a dead-end job, I think about how much suffering could have been avoided if their parents choose not to have kids. So much misery could disappear just not by having children.
I know personally, that even in the impossible scenario that I ascended and have the option of having children, I would choose not to because I know that if I have a son, he will probably end up like me, and It would pain me so much to see him end up like that. Not to mention the amount of work and effort I will have to put into raising a child, that I could have otherwise used to improve my own quality of life.
In conclusion, I do believe that it is wrong to have children because you are just risking bringing another person into this world of suffering against their will.
Please do share your opinion of the morality of having children. Thanks.
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