Discussion Do you think Chads/Stacys are smarter than us?

[worstcel]

In terms of general intelligence, such as problem solving skills, reasoning skills, nature skills, social skills (obviously this), etc.

I know lots of u dont really give a shit about how smart someone is, as it's all about looks, but I hear so many here say Chads and Stacys are stupid, but I'm feeling like this is the exact opposite. Ugly nerds are seen as smart, not saying they aren't, as they do put in far more effort, but would a chad or stacy beat the nerds with the same effort? It would only make sense if the genetically superior ones are on top of everything. Why don't the chads and stacys dominate in school academics? Are they actually that stupid, or do they just not try? I can't find studies done on this tho, and it's not that easy to determine as there are so many different types of intelligence, one may be great at memorizing but shit at math, where memorization is less needed. World is too complex for me to understand anyway, I don't understand this logic, why arent genetically superior ones shitting on the nerds in school? Has anyone else thought about this, or only me?

 

[Descartes]

No, good genes don't come in a package, you can perfectly be good looking and dumb, I know way too many of those.

 

[Deleted member 21504]

Less mutational load = higher probability of average intelligence, NTality and high attractiveness.

 

[Deleted member 15752]

IQ in 2019 is meaningless.

 

[muharremabi]

I think so. All chads I've met were highly intelligent.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

In terms of general intelligence, such as problem solving skills, reasoning skills, nature skills, social skills (obviously this), etc.

I know lots of u dont really give a shit about how smart someone is, as it's all about looks, but I hear so many here say Chads and Stacys are stupid, but I'm feeling like this is the exact opposite. Ugly nerds are seen as smart, not saying they aren't, as they do put in far more effort, but would a chad or stacy beat the nerds with the same effort? It would only make sense if the genetically superior ones are on top of everything. Why don't the chads and stacys dominate in school academics? Are they actually that stupid, or do they just not try? I can't find studies done on this tho, and it's not that easy to determine as there are so many different types of intelligence, one may be great at memorizing but shit at math, where memorization is less needed. World is too complex for me to understand anyway, I don't understand this logic, why arent genetically superior ones shitting on the nerds in school? Has anyone else thought about this, or only me?

not the incels on the forum but yes on average good looking mofos mog ugly people. big shift fuel. Check out most criminals(they are low IQ legit studies showed this) and guess what most are ugly. so an average incel(Not ones on the forum) would most likely be dumber than a Chad

 

[Deleted member 19858]

IQ in 2019 is meaningless.

This... It's all about resources, connections, and looks if we're speaking in terms of success.

 

[dyellow]

No, good genes don't come in a package, you can perfectly be good looking and dumb, I know way too many of those.

GIGACOPE they actually do, there's a high correlation with LOOKS and IQ

 

[Deleted member 19756]

They are certainly less depressed.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

GIGACOPE they actually do, there's a high correlation with LOOKS and IQ

Statistics are skewed heavily by nutrition, education (better looking = more likely to succeed cause of lookism and give your children good education) and syndromes, anecdotes are heavily skewed by the Halo Effect, we'll probably never have unbiased evidence of a meaningful correlation between looks and intelligence, genetically speaking.

 

[happiless]

There's no worse mog imo than a Chad who also IQ mogs you in person. I've had it happen in high school. A chad in my class who was at least a 9 also had top grades. I heard him locker room talk once about cumming on a foids face and how there was no towel nearby for her to wipe it off. And IIRC he mentioned getting a double blowjob once as well. High octane suifuel

 

[Mainländer]

There is no relevant correlation between beauty and intelligence as far as I know.

 

[RemoveNormalfags]

Depression makes us dumber, so yeah kinda, but at least we can look at things objectively.

 

[Descartes]

GIGACOPE they actually do, there's a high correlation with LOOKS and IQ

I'm not coping, I'm intelligent myself and I'm ugly. I know intelligent ugly people and intelligent good looking people, also the other way around. There is no correlation with looks and IQ, do you really think that all stacies and chads are intelligent? You must have really low standards for intelligence then.

 

[dyellow]

Statistics are skewed heavily by nutrition and syndromes, anecdotes are heavily skewed by the Halo Effect, we'll probably never have unbiased evidence of a meaningful correlation between looks and intelligence, genetically speaking.

Sorry, you might be coping. They measured with IQ tests, there's no Halo Effect in the research. There are multiple studies about it in well developed countries with high HDI, so malnutrition is out of it, also syndromes would only account for a very tiny minority and they might have even filtered with just healthy babies.

 

[worstcel]

I'm gonna do some digging in to my school to find out the grades of attractive vs unattractive people, will take me a while but will be worth knowing

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

Sorry, you might be coping. They measured with IQ tests, there's no Halo Effect in the research. There are multiple studies about it in well developed countries with high HDI, so malnutrition is out of it, also syndromes would only account for a very tiny minority and they might have even filtered with just healthy babies.

The top comment of the video articulates what i was about to say quite well:

"Being good looking makes people treat you better from a young age allowing children to reach their full potential more often. Teachers give more attention to good looking children. Other children treat you better allowing you to develop social skills faster than less attractive peers. Ie ( more opportunity to talk = more experience = more precieved intelligence) simple fact, also more forgiveness for social mistakes. I've literally seen the most socially inept attractive people called "cute, unique, quirky" for having bad social skills and the same lack of social prowess called "weird, creepy, akward, and odd in ugly People."

Good looking men appear to be more genetically intelligent because the entirety of society is biased in their favor, and will help them reach their full potential 9 times out of 10, whereas incel men are torn down and humiliated by life no matter their intelligence.

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

I dont usually meet anyone more intelligent than me- it’s statistically improbable. All my friends who are more intelligent than me were also in the gifted programs and had 170+ IQs. I have never met a chad or a Stacy in person who could match my intellect. All of the people more intelligent than me, whom I have met in person, are men.

 

[dyellow]

I'm not coping, I'm intelligent myself and I'm ugly. I know intelligent ugly people and intelligent good looking people, also the other way around. There is no correlation with looks and IQ, do you really think that all stacies and chads are intelligent? You must have really low standards for intelligence then.

Yes, you're coping. You said there's no connection with looks and attractiveness, but there is, and there are multiple studies about it. Also if you're so intelligent the first thing you shouldn't is giving annedoctal evidence, you should know it doesn't mean anything. Just because there are exceptions that doesn't mean there is no correlation, also that doesn't mean all good looking people are intelligent. I even bet most chads and stacies sound really stupid, they can have high IQ and not have studied at all, because they don't need to study, they have their looks.

 

[Carotel]

I dont usually meet anyone more intelligent than me- it’s statistically improbable. All my friends who are more intelligent than me were also in the gifted programs and had 170+ IQs. I have never met a chad or a Stacy in person who could match my intellect. All of the people more intelligent than me, whom I have met in person, are men.

dude....

 

[HowCanSheSlap]

I think incels are smarter tbh - most are educated. But it varies - intelligence isn't confined to looks. In fact looking 'nerdy' is an incel trait.

 

[dyellow]

The top comment of the video articulates what i was about to say quite well:

"Being good looking makes people treat you better from a young age allowing children to reach their full potential more often. Teachers give more attention to good looking children. Other children treat you better allowing you to develop social skills faster than less attractive peers. Ie ( more opportunity to talk = more experience = more precieved intelligence) simple fact, also more forgiveness for social mistakes. I've literally seen the most socially inept attractive people called "cute, unique, quirky" for having bad social skills and the same lack of social prowess called "weird, creepy, akward, and odd in ugly People."

Good looking men appear to be more genetically intelligent because the entirety of society is biased in their favor, and will help them reach their full potential 9 times out of 10, whereas incel men are torn down and humiliated by life no matter their intelligence.

Sure, but it only accounts for GRADES in school/college. Like I said, the studies have been done with IQ tests, looks halo won't help you. Also IQ is heavily linked to genetics, even if you make someone with low IQ study a lot they might have good grades but they will still have low IQ.

 

[Guest2]

I dont usually meet anyone more intelligent than me- it’s statistically improbable. All my friends who are more intelligent than me were also in the gifted programs and had 170+ IQs. I have never met a chad or a Stacy in person who could match my intellect. All of the people more intelligent than me, whom I have met in person, are men.

Do you have Asperger's

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

dude....

I was admitted into the GATE society as an adolescent and achieved perfect scores on my college entrance exams without studying. I’m also a member of the triple nine society. I took the WAIS as an 18 year old, under the supervision of a trained psychotherapist, and maxed out the majority of the sub tests (including coding, verbal reasoning and processing speed), but only scored ~130 in pattern recognition and 128 in the memory subtest. My composite score was ~150-160.

Do you have Asperger's

Yes

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

but it only accounts for GRADES in school/college.

Not at all, how you're treated like in your development stages has HUGE impacts on your mental state later in life, if you're bullied and shat on by everyone without stop when you're young (Practically every incel has gone through trauma in development), the effects will carry all the way to adulthood, parental abuse alone has been identified to lower IQ by 5 on average, without even taking bullying and depression into account, imagine how skewed the statistics are when you take every other factor into account.

Evidence That the Impact of Childhood Trauma on IQ Is Substantial in Controls, Moderate in Siblings, and Absent in Patients With Psychotic Disorder

Research suggests that childhood trauma is associated with cognitive alterations, but it is not known whether the cognitive alterations observed in patients with psychotic disorder, and their relatives, is trauma-related. Patients with a schizophrenia-spectrum ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Deleted member 20056]

I dont usually meet anyone more intelligent than me- it’s statistically improbable. All my friends who are more intelligent than me were also in the gifted programs and had 170+ IQs. I have never met a chad or a Stacy in person who could match my intellect. All of the people more intelligent than me, whom I have met in person, are men.

170 IQ is 1/164,571, and above Stephen Hawking. I don't think you're telling the truth.

 

[Lester]

Considering most colleges are filled with chads and Stacys they’re probably adcademically superior. More intelligent? Unlikely.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

Considering most colleges are filled with chads and Stacys they’re probably adcademically superior. More intelligent? Unlikely.

It's almost impossible for Xhad to not succeed at life, even a borderline retarded Chad has higher odds of succeeding than an average normie, because the combined power of the Halo Effect and the shunning of his competition will max out his potential and give him a safety net, Chad has an upstream carrying him while incels and normies have to swim against the current.

 

[YogiBear]

If you are high IQ you will tell people IQ don´t matter, it´s all hard work. (yes, some boy learned 10 languages by age of 4 because he was working hard (lol).

If you are good looking you will keep telling people that looks don´t matter and it´s all about good personality.

All these people just lie, because they gain more status by doing so.

 

[Descartes]

Yes, you're coping. You said there's no connection with looks and attractiveness, but there is, and there are multiple studies about it. Also if you're so intelligent the first thing you shouldn't is giving annedoctal evidence, you should know it doesn't mean anything. Just because there are exceptions that doesn't mean there is no correlation, also that doesn't mean all good looking people are intelligent. I even bet most chads and stacies sound really stupid, they can have high IQ and not have studied at all, because they don't need to study, they have their looks.

I'm not talking about exceptions here, I'm talking about majority. Also, you don't sound stupid if you have a high IQ just because you don't study, that's not true. And you don't study because you "need too", I've met some wealthy intelligent people who definitely didn't need to study but they did it because the enjoy it

 

[zangano1]

Stacy, no
Chad, probably, but not smarter than me

 

[dyellow]

Not at all, how you're treated like in your development stages has HUGE impacts on your mental state later in life, if you're bullied and shat on by everyone without stop when you're young (Practically every incel has gone through trauma in development), the effects will carry all the way to adulthood, parental abuse alone has been identified to lower IQ by 5 on average, without even taking bullying and depression into account, imagine how skewed the statistics are when you take every other factor into account.

Evidence That the Impact of Childhood Trauma on IQ Is Substantial in Controls, Moderate in Siblings, and Absent in Patients With Psychotic Disorder

Research suggests that childhood trauma is associated with cognitive alterations, but it is not known whether the cognitive alterations observed in patients with psychotic disorder, and their relatives, is trauma-related. Patients with a schizophrenia-spectrum ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

I know all of this, but just being treated bad or with indifference(cold teachers) doesn't mean you'll have a trauma, not every average person has traumas, also IQ is just like height in the sense that it might decrease with malnutrition, but having good nutrition won't get you higher than your genetics allow, so good looking people won't get higher IQ because they didn't have traumas, they will just get what their genetics allow. But their IQ is still higher than the average person.
Also those statistics are measure not only with adults but with children from the age of 6-12 as well, so in those cases the lasting effects to adulthood weren't taken into account. Surely it could affect the studies, but still doesn't explain why it's such a massive correlation.
I hope you understood my point that many of the things you mentioned, like malnutrition and syndromes, have little to no effect on the study since it was done in multiple countries with high HDI.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

This... It's all about resources, connections, and looks if we're speaking in terms of success.

cope. it's not that useful but still can make massive diffirence.s small differences stack up. A bit higher IQ could be difference between 4.0 or 3.5 GPA. Resulting in guy either becoming poorfag or betabxu with higher gpa

Statistics are skewed heavily by nutrition, education (better looking = more likely to succeed cause of lookism and give your children good education) and syndromes, anecdotes are heavily skewed by the Halo Effect, we'll probably never have unbiased evidence of a meaningful correlation between looks and intelligence, genetically speaking.

true. but overall good looking people have better parents, better education. better positive reinforcement. Also mind and body is connected. no reason a nerd can't be ripped. just better everything if ur Chad.

 

[Robtical]

GIGACOPE they actually do, there's a high correlation with LOOKS and IQ

That study was done on 7-11 year olds, not adults. Most smart people are ugly like bill gates and stephen hawking.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

I'm not coping, I'm intelligent myself and I'm ugly. I know intelligent ugly people and intelligent good looking people, also the other way around. There is no correlation with looks and IQ, do you really think that all stacies and chads are intelligent? You must have really low standards for intelligence then.

hundreds of millions of ugly subhumwn shitskins live in their world. They are all UGLY and low own maybe for first worldcels the ugly folk aren't much dumber but on world wide scale. ugly means ethnic subhumwn shitskins with garbage parentinf , low IQ parents .

 

[dyellow]

I'm not talking about exceptions here, I'm talking about majority. Also, you don't sound stupid if you have a high IQ just because you don't study, that's not true. And you don't study because you "need too", I've met some wealthy intelligent people who definitely didn't need to study but they did it because the enjoy it

If you're are talking about the majority, where are the studies? where's the data? You literally said "I know this person and he's ugly and intelligent" and "I know this person and he's good looking and dumb". How can you not understand that's literally the definition of annedoctal evidence? And then you proceed to give me another annedoctal evidence JFL

Anecdotal evidence - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Anecdotal evidence is evidence from anecdotes: evidence collected in a casual or informal manner and relying heavily or entirely on personal testimony.
"Misuse of anecdotal evidence is an informal fallacy and is sometimes referred to as the "person who" fallacy ("I know a person who..."; "I know of a case where..." etc.) which places undue weight on experiences of close peers which may not be typical. "

Now let's compare to what you said:
No, good genes don't come in a package, you can perfectly be good looking and dumb, I know way too many of those.

"I know many people that are good looking and dumb, therefore there's no correlation of looks and intelligence"

 

[Deleted member 19858]

cope. it's not that useful but still can make massive diffirence.s small differences stack up. A bit higher IQ could be difference between 4.0 or 3.5 GPA. Resulting in guy either becoming poorfag or betabxu with higher gpa

I shouldn't have been so black and white. It CAN be useful if you utilize it to benefit you in the best way imaginable. But if you're a blackpilled truecel it can be pretty discouraging and in many people's eyes, not worth pursuing.

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

170 IQ is 1/164,571, and above Stephen Hawking. I don't think you're telling the truth.

I have an IQ between 150 and 160 that is substantially less rare. 1 in several thousand to one in 40 thousand. I have met people with actual IQs of over 200. The actual statistical probability of this occurring is closer to 1 in 200 thousand to one in 400 thousand.

 

[Opus132]

Statistics are skewed heavily by nutrition, education (better looking = more likely to succeed cause of lookism and give your children good education) and syndromes, anecdotes are heavily skewed by the Halo Effect, we'll probably never have unbiased evidence of a meaningful correlation between looks and intelligence, genetically speaking.

The study is not trustworthy because it is made by people who want to "prove" their evolutionist theories are true, so they have to demonstrate genetic fitness comes in a package.

The truth is that human beings come in "type", a fact which was recognized by most ancient cultures, some even going so far as structure their entire society according to said type, like India and their caste system, and what we refer to as Chad belongs to the "Kshatriya" or warrior caste.

Look at all the greatest geniuses, thinkers and artists in history. None of them is a Chad, not a single one. But in the army, or in sports? Nothing but Chads as far as the eye can see. In fact, i don't even understand why this isn't better understood considering how damn obvious it is.

 

[Itsover4maymaycels]

Look at all the greatest geniuses, thinkers and artists in history. None of them is a Chad, not a single one. But in the army, or in sports? Nothing but Chads as far as the eye can see. In fact, i don't even understand why this isn't better understood considering how damn obvious it is.

Exactly, it might not exactly be statistics but the OVERWHELMING majority of major scientists and artists in history were not Chads, infact, some like Newton were incels, whereas sports is Chad central all over, politics and the army? Same thing.

 

[dyellow]

That study was done on 7-11 year olds, not adults. Most smart people are ugly like bill gates and stephen hawking.

You're coping by cherrypicking. The study done with children was in Britain, but there were many other studies mentioned in the video, with adolescents and adults. You didn't even bother to watch the rest, it seems like you don't want to see the truth. Also having high IQ doesn't always mean you'll be rich, sucessful or an academic. You can have a college student with an IQ of 140 and a billionaire with the same IQ.

Exactly, it might not exactly be statistics but the OVERWHELMING majority of major scientists and artists in history were not Chads, infact, some like Newton were incels, whereas sports is Chad central all over, politics and the army? Same thing.

Those people are the exceptions of exceptions, do you really think a Chad will waste his whole life studying when he could be a model and get richer and have tons of women around him? Also having an IQ of 150 doesn't mean you're gonna be a nobel prize winner, seems like you guys don't understand what IQ means. I'm seeing extreme levels of coping

 

[Robtical]

You're coping by cherrypicking. The study done with children was in Britain, but there were many other studies mentioned in the video, with adolescents and adults. You didn't even bother to watch the rest, it seems like you don't want to see the truth.

The one on the adolescents and adults were garbage statistics.

having high IQ doesn't always mean you'll be rich, sucessful or an academic. You can have a college student with an IQ of 140 and a billionaire with the same IQ.

Most the famous smart and rich people we know are incel looking, including all university professors who thirst on their rostie students.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

I was admitted into the GATE society as an adolescent and achieved perfect scores on my college entrance exams without studying. I’m also a member of the triple nine society. I took the WAIS as an 18 year old, under the supervision of a trained psychotherapist, and maxed out the majority of the sub tests (including coding, verbal reasoning and processing speed), but only scored ~130 in pattern recognition and 128 in the memory subtest. My composite score was ~150-160.

Yes

incels like you and @Descartes are not indicative of overall incels. The incels on this site were high IQ enough to realize their subhumanity. you guys don't understand that average ugly subhuman will never be Blackpilled enough to realize his pain and is low IQ. You don't need look no further than crime stats, ugly subhumans tend to be lower IQ and more prone to crime due to bad treatment

 

[Invidia]

Look at all the greatest geniuses, thinkers and artists in history. None of them is a Chad, not a single one.

Cope. I bet Shakespeare was a slayer.

 

[dyellow]

The one on the adolescents and adults were garbage statistics.

Most the famous smart and rich people we know are incel looking, including all university professors who thirst on their rostie students.

"garbage statistics" Great argument. Let me just ask you one question: why would Chad dedicate his life to study and working hard when he could have everything by just existing?
If I were a Chad I wouldn't even bother going to college and would go to a modeling agency without thiking twice.
Mark Zuckerberg is gonna die like a cuck, Chad is gonna die like a King.

incels like you and @Descartes are not indicative of overall incels. The incels on this site were high IQ enough to realize their subhumanity. you guys don't understand that average ugly subhuman will never be Blackpilled enough to realize his pain and is low IQ. You don't need look no further than crime stats, ugly subhumans tend to be lower IQ and more prone to crime due to bad treatment

They're coping hard, there's no other cure to this level of coping except time, maybe one day they'll realize.

 

[Fat Link]

In some ways sure.

They are certainly more "socially" intelligent.

 

[Descartes]

If you're are talking about the majority, where are the studies? where's the data? You literally said "I know this person and he's ugly and intelligent" and "I know this person and he's good looking and dumb". How can you not understand that's literally the definition of annedoctal evidence? And then you proceed to give me another annedoctal evidence JFL

Because there's no way on earth this is true just where I live and the places I've visited but it's the opposite in the rest of the world

hundreds of millions of ugly subhumwn shitskins live in their world. They are all UGLY and low own maybe for first worldcels the ugly folk aren't much dumber but on world wide scale. ugly means ethnic subhumwn shitskins with garbage parentinf , low IQ parents .

Well, that stops being about looks and becomes a matter of race/location

 

[dyellow]

Because there's no way on earth this is true just where I live and the places I've visited but it's the opposite in the rest of the world

"there's just no way..."
that level of coping actually broke my heart... bros

 

[Deleted member 17719]

No IQ is very random, judging by the people I remember at school however many people can be average IQ and their social skills bring them success.

 

[Descartes]

"there's just no way..."
that level of coping actually broke my heart... bros

Why would I need to cope? I have a 142 IQ so I'm not trying to feel better about myself, I value intelligence a lot so when I find it on other people I don't get salty and jelous, I respect them. I'm just saying that most good looking people are intelligent is not true, you can also know this by common sense: smart people are a minority, so even among good looking people they will be a minority too.