Experiment Do you still believe in the scientific community in general?

[Mainländer]

I find it hard to nowadays when political correct agendas have infiltrated it so much.

The Dr. James Watson case back in the late 00s was what started my skepticism of the scientific community. He's one of the greatest names in biology as well as one of the discoverers or the DNA structure and got ostracized and exiled just because he said the data points that blacks are less intelligent than whites in general and that it has a genetic component to it.

Recently he said he tried to find evidences that he was wrong but unfortunately couldn't, so he stands by that notion. The media did nothing but pushing the guy to just "stop talking" about it.

Today I was trying to find some statistics on the fact children exposed to stepfathers are at greatest risk of abuse, but I found out some countries are now making the distinction between fathers and stepfathers on their statistics unavailable. How is one to still trust the scientific community in an environment like that?

 

[Guest2]

I trust scientific studies, but bear in mind that what site you are viewing it on makes a difference. For example if you only went here you would undoubtedly believe in the blackpill because of the number of studies posted that would have been buried otherwise. Just remind yourself that whoever has created and carried out the study might have ulterior intentions.

 

[Iamthesui]

Because you're going about science incorrectly. You're not supposed "try and prove something" or "find evidence of something" you're supposed to make a hypothesis, run tests, and come up with a conclusion based on your data, even if it disagrees with your hypothesis.
If no one could repeat his experiments and come to the same results, theres a reason the scientific community told him,to shut up. Same with the anti-vaxxer guy. Science is science.
If you don't trust something do the science yourself

 

[First loss]

I used to, but lots of it is controlled by (((them))) so it's bound to have lies in it.

 

[Insomniac]

No man. I don’t trust anything kikes tell me.

 

[Mainländer]

Because you're going about science incorrectly. You're not supposed "try and prove something" or "find evidence of something" you're supposed to make a hypothesis, run tests, and come up with a conclusion based on your data, even if it disagrees with your hypothesis.

Yeah you're right, but in this case I had seen studies that proved that before but not only couldn't find them anymore but also couldn't find anything more recent (since the countries are tending to do that now).

 

[Iamthesui]

Yeah you're right, but in this case I had seen studies that proved that before but not only couldn't find them anymore but also couldn't find anything more recent (since the countries are tending to do that now).

If the scientific study exists, is peer reviewed, and not debunked (and also isn't a popular example like the anti-vaxx one) they'll likely be taken down by scientific communities because they're wrong

 

[Mainländer]

If the scientific study exists, is peer reviewed, and not debunked (and also isn't a popular example like the anti-vaxx one) they'll likely be taken down by scientific communities because they're wrong

I didn't understand what you said

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

Evolution is just a philosophy

 

[Iamthesui]

I didn't understand what you said

Basically if it passes the rigors of the scientific community as a whole (by following the scientific method) and no one can find serious flaws in the study, it'll stay up. Otherwise it'll get taken down because scientists dont want bad science being published and read by the public

 

[Mainländer]

Basically if it passes the rigors of the scientific community as a whole (by following the scientific method) and no one can find serious flaws in the study, it'll stay up. Otherwise it'll get taken down because scientists dont want bad science being published and read by the public

Do you trust the scientific community that much? Don't you think governments and certain agendas can be behind the decision to take something down or boycott it instead of that unbiased rigor?

How do you explain the Dr. James Watson case?

 

[ImpureIncel]

Only in the scientific method.

 

[Iamthesui]

Do you trust the scientific community that much? Don't you think governments and certain agendas can be behind the decision to take something down or boycott it instead of that unbiased rigor?

How do you explain the Dr. James Watson case?

That's the thing about the scientific community. They don't give a fuck about your agenda.
Watson's case has no one to back him up and instead it appears that his methods were flawed or biased. This happens a lot and people just do tests to fix the bias. If the same results occur, then you've got a good study, if they don't, you keep doing tests until either
A. There's evidence to support your hypothesis (and testing continues)
B. There's no evidence to support it (testing continues)
The scientific community ignored him because he didn't find proof outside his singular study, simple as that.

 

[Gengar]

I guess so.

 

[Grotesque]

I respect most scientific studies, but I'll always be skeptical. All science is funded via government, in some way.

I learned this personally in my meteorological studies. The smartest and brightest still have to kowtow to the almighty gov't dollar in the end. Humans will always have ulterior motives.

 

[Deleted member 14866]

It’s not like u can do the studies myself

 

[r9kcel]

Science is on our side tbh. Countless studies on how looks effect life, how height matters, how bullies live better than the bullied, what's evolutionary attractive and so on.

 

[ElliotRodgerHere]

If no one could repeat his experiments and come to the same results, theres a reason the scientific community told him,to shut up.

This isnt the case, scientists dont want to research whether or not there is a genetic component to IQ and race because they are scared of what they might find

That's the thing about the scientific community. They don't give a fuck about your agenda.
Watson's case has no one to back him up and instead it appears that his methods were flawed or biased. This happens a lot and people just do tests to fix the bias. If the same results occur, then you've got a good study, if they don't, you keep doing tests until either
A. There's evidence to support your hypothesis (and testing continues)
B. There's no evidence to support it (testing continues)
The scientific community ignored him because he didn't find proof outside his singular study, simple as that.

He cited IQ tests you fucking mongoloid. Africans score in the low seventies to mid 80s on IQ tests making them barely functional intellectually. He didnt run any tests he merely came to the (obvious) conclusion that African IQ scores were low due to genetics. Keep in mind this is the man who discovered the double helix shape of DNA, hes fucking brilliant. The science community shunned him because they dont like to think of the implications of blacks not being as smart as whites.

 

[Iamthesui]

This isnt the case, scientists dont want to research whether or not there is a genetic component to IQ and race because they are scared of what they might find

He cited IQ tests you fucking mongoloid. Africans score in the low seventies to mid 80s on IQ tests making them barely functional intellectually. He didnt run any tests he merely came to the (obvious) conclusion that African IQ scores were low due to genetics. Keep in mind this is the man who discovered the double helix shape of DNA, hes fucking brilliant. The science community shunned him because they dont like to think of the implications of blacks not being as smart as whites.

IQ tests can tend to favor the tradionally educated, I would know, I took a couple to help out some fellow students at my college because they needed to test people. Multiple tests had sections that were linguistic and even some had random facts. This would make Africans less likely to score very high.
Also, just because he's smart doesn't mean hes always right. Ben Carson is one of the best neurosurgeons in the world and is a genius, but he also thought the great pyramids were used as grain silos. His intelligence doesn't mean you take him at his word.
Finally, if he just assumed they're stupid because of genetics, then thats NOT science. Its a guess. The Science would be showing evidence for the connection, which he didn't do in a repeatable experiment. It's not scientific.

 

[ElliotRodgerHere]

IQ tests can tend to favor the tradionally educated, I would know, I took a couple to help out some fellow students at my college because they needed to test people. Multiple tests had sections that were linguistic and even some had random facts. This would make Africans less likely to score very high.
Also, just because he's smart doesn't mean hes always right. Ben Carson is one of the best neurosurgeons in the world and is a genius, but he also thought the great pyramids were used as grain silos. His intelligence doesn't mean you take him at his word.
Finally, if he just assumed they're stupid because of genetics, then thats NOT science. Its a guess. The Science would be showing evidence for the connection, which he didn't do in a repeatable experiment. It's not scientific.

IQ tests are repeatable experiments even though you dont like them because they make blacks look bad. It's the best measure of intelligence available today

 

[Darth Cialis]

Some prof. guy in my country is getting roasted because he made a study roasties didn't like too.

 

[First loss]

Some prof. guy in my country is getting roasted because he made a study roasties didn't like too.

That's just sad tbh. People being destroyed for their honest work.

 

[Darth Cialis]

That's just sad tbh. People being destroyed for their honest work.

I think he made it specifically to piss them off cause he had enough of the BS tbh, even if that doesn't imply that he is wrong and conducted the study poorly. Actually, I'd say he probably didn't.

 

[First loss]

I think he made it specifically to piss them off cause he had enough of the BS tbh, even if that doesn't imply that he is wrong and conducted the study poorly. Actually, I'd say he probably didn't.

What was the study about?

 

[guerillahubris]

depends what its about. anything with political relations to it i dont fully trust

 

[Darth Cialis]

What was the study about?

Gender and stuff I think, Idk.

 

[Deleted member 8353]

I don't trust anything that the cult of genetic egalitarianism has touched.

The ironic part of their ideology, is that the belief in some sort of biological, intrinsic equality(in spite of heaps of evidence to the contrary), is the very same reasoning that leads to blame. You'd think that to be a social justice type, belief in a just world would be a contradiction. But I suppose in their eyes, every problem or failing in the history of human society can be traced to the actions of white men without exception.

 

[Involuntarily]

What science? Technology is mostly free of these problems. AMD CEO is a woman, and a great one. You bring up some good points, Jordan Peterson seems to be cutting them which is why I like him, they can't attack facts. Thanks for bringing up based James Watson.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

I find it hard to nowadays when political correct agendas have infiltrated it so much.

The Dr. James Watson case back in the late 00s was what started my skepticism of the scientific community. He's one of the greatest names in biology as well as one of the discoverers or the DNA structure and got ostracized and exiled just because he said the data points that blacks are less intelligent than whites in general and that it has a genetic component to it.

Recently he said he tried to find evidences that he was wrong but unfortunately couldn't, so he stands by that notion. The media did nothing but pushing the guy to just "stop talking" about it.

Today I was trying to find some statistics on the fact children exposed to stepfathers are at greatest risk of abuse, but I found out some countries are now making the distinction between fathers and stepfathers on their statistics unavailable. How is one to still trust the scientific community in an environment like that?

Yes, this is a huge issue. I trust science in general because science is supposed to be a process of seeking truth through collection of objective evidence.

NOTHING should be off limits for scientific exploration as long as it follows basic ethical rules.

The idea that research on the low IQ of blacks should be "off limits" is absurd and hugely problematic. The same could be said for research on normal male sexuality:
https://incels.is/threads/atomic-jb...-females-potentially-sexually-arousing.72391/

If we don't get science on these subjects or the science is suppressed it's easy for cucks to fill the blanks with lies.

People like Redditors don't want science. They are the enemies of science. Their agendas always come first.

You shouldn't lose faith in science. You should lose faith in those who are seeking to subvert it.

 

[DJ Jank]

science is worthless

you're an incel either way

the only absolute truth is that ur an incel

 

[Inceldo]

No

They're all liberal SJWs with an agenda. If that statement makes the left butthurt they only have themselves to blame for pushing a leftist agenda and silencing rational discourse.

Anything that comes out of a scientist's mouth is suspect.

I dont think its a modern phenomena either. The whole sjw movement have only brought the liberal agenda to light and exposed it for what it is. Human evolution story is bullshit

 

[michaelcerasheadgirth]

nothing that really matters has anything to do with modern politics, so idc tbh.

 

[StaroRavager]

Just remind yourself that whoever has created and carried out the study might have ulterior intentions.

 

[bigantennaemay1]

No man. I don’t trust anything kikes tell me.

Including certain accounts of history.

 

[deadliftmaxxxcel]

i stopped trusting it once the soycucks became 90% of the scientists

 

[Shower_Taker]

Hard sciences? Sure. Bullshit non-sciences like psychology, sociology and the like? Not in the slightest.

 

[Cuyen]

No man. I don’t trust anything kikes tell me.

 

[EyesAreSoCold]

Im very skeptic of them, but I believe many are still legit.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

It depends on the science and the specific case. Always look at the study funding & methods and compare it with other sources like a rational mind. Denying science because of bullshit artists doesn't seem like a good idea

 

[Iamthesui]

IQ tests are repeatable experiments even though you dont like them because they make blacks look bad. It's the best measure of intelligence available today

Some of them, yes. Others, like I said, favor the tradionally educated because they're designed for that

 

[XerxesAzrael]

Yes I believe in it, science is the reason why we even have the blackpill in the first place.

 

[Wonder]

Science has always been simply a contiunation of the researcher's reality. All science is "biased", even though we want to believe otherwise. Just be solipsist theory.

 

[Cleftcel]

old white dudes are the only ppl willing to speak the truth in the real world