Do you see a grander historical context with lots of precedents which cumulatively caused your ruin or do you see yourself as victim of randomness and luck? Do you believe in causality and determinism?
Discussion Do you see yourself as just an unlucky guy who failed, or do you see a deeper set of causes which played a steady role to ultimately bring you down?
Unlucky guy. A few millimeters of facial bone would have made everything different.
idk what I believe in really, I just know the whole world is filled with a bunch of nonsensical shit
Has to be randomness and bad luck. i would consider it a disability to be my height in my country.
i don't believe in luck, I don't believe there was any way I could not have been born the same way, as I don't believe in "what-ifs".
whatever happened, could not have happened otherwise.
nothing is random; randomness is a simplification, if you had a gods eye view of the world this would be clear. even quantum phenomena which appear truly random might be just a lack of a better model, but I won't comment further on that since the future might make a fool of me.
whatever happened, could not have happened otherwise.
nothing is random; randomness is a simplification, if you had a gods eye view of the world this would be clear. even quantum phenomena which appear truly random might be just a lack of a better model, but I won't comment further on that since the future might make a fool of me.
Yes everything is deterministic.
The genetic lottery
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I'm incel/failed normie. I don't think I'm horribly deformed, but if my childhood was more focused on growth and development in facial structure and height i probably would be so much better off.
I was just too autistic and too ugly
well in my case it was objectively, and for all intents and purposes, bad luck.
I'm 5'4 and up to when I was around 11 years old, paediatricians said I'll be 6'2" (using a formal accounting for parents' heights).
My parents were both very attractive when they had me 28 years ago, and I was attractive up until around age 10-11 (before my face and skull started growing very weirdly and abnormally in the time-span of 3 years).
Then during puberty a "mutation" that was "simmering" inside me (inherited from my father who was only a carrier) was "released" and it made my skull and face grow very strangely. This is strongly implied by medical reports and CT scans/MRIs. This combined with very abornmal hormonal activity made me a 1/10. Mind you I don't look like a "asymmetric chad", but rather an "asymmetric truecel" (meaning even with much better symmetry I'd still be a 1.5... sunglasses don't help me.
So yes, in my case it was total bad luck—had I not gotten this gene mutation, which was also a possibility bc my sister didn't and she looks above average, I could well have been a 6'2 chadlite or chad.
But it wasn't meant to be.
I'm 5'4 and up to when I was around 11 years old, paediatricians said I'll be 6'2" (using a formal accounting for parents' heights).
My parents were both very attractive when they had me 28 years ago, and I was attractive up until around age 10-11 (before my face and skull started growing very weirdly and abnormally in the time-span of 3 years).
Then during puberty a "mutation" that was "simmering" inside me (inherited from my father who was only a carrier) was "released" and it made my skull and face grow very strangely. This is strongly implied by medical reports and CT scans/MRIs. This combined with very abornmal hormonal activity made me a 1/10. Mind you I don't look like a "asymmetric chad", but rather an "asymmetric truecel" (meaning even with much better symmetry I'd still be a 1.5... sunglasses don't help me.
So yes, in my case it was total bad luck—had I not gotten this gene mutation, which was also a possibility bc my sister didn't and she looks above average, I could well have been a 6'2 chadlite or chad.
But it wasn't meant to be.
well boyo i dont blame myself if thats what youre asking
Who do you blame?
modern society
one of my grandfathers was literally just like me and yet he had 2 kids and was accepted into the normie world
People are too dim witted, brainwashed and full of pride to admit it as well deeply invested in the “just pull yourself up by your bootstraps” mentality to accept the fact that Jews and their white liberal slaves have successfully and maliciously socially engineered our current dystopian feminist Clown World reality into existence and put depopulation measures into place that caused women and men to largely begin to hate and avoid eachother as well just become more mean spirited and untrusting of eachother over time (but especially the women are mean and viscious cunts these days) but of course DIE-versity also plays into the low trust of our society as well.
So what my point here is or what I’m getting at?
I think most of us here would not have become incels in an earlier generation like the 80’s, 70’s or 50’s since Jew MTV brainwashing and social media and it’s Petri dish that turns women into hypergamous narcissistic monsters beyond their natural limits by giving them far too much power of selection has basically ruined our chances and even hurt the so called successful Chads in any number of ways.
So I’d say I’m both an unlucky guy (simply lost the genetic lottery) but was also born in the wrong era to even be given a chance.
In @Todd Thundercock and my Gen X era you basically either had to be a cool but nasty dirty grungey smelly Kurt Cobain Nirvana worshipper or even worse a fucking faggot wigger or wigger drug dealer in order to make it easy for yourself to ascend.
Of course if you were born extremely attractive you could avoid debasing and disgracing yourself with the adoption of the above undesirable (to yourself) personas but if you weren’t it’s either do one of those two things or accept dying alone.
Guess which option Todd and I chose?
Of course if you were born extremely attractive you could avoid debasing and disgracing yourself with the adoption of the above undesirable (to yourself) personas but if you weren’t it’s either do one of those two things or accept dying alone.
Guess which option Todd and I chose?
I mean, i was born of my parents so there was no way this was going to turn any other way for me, lol.
I got unlucky and there is nothing i can do to change it
Yep. I think our time was the end of the grungy guys and mostly wigger drug dealers.In @@Todd Thundercock and my Gen X era you basically either had to be a cool but nasty dirty grungey smelly Kurt Cobain Nirvana worshipper or even worse a fucking faggot wigger or wigger drug dealer in order to make it easy for yourself to ascend.
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Yeah. Society is so backwards that we never had a chance
Each 'pothole' on the road strays us further from our best possible lives. We've been stepping on them since we were fucking kids
Determinism is absolute. There is no randomness, there is no luck.
The sole factor deciding your fate are your genetic and epigenetic profiles.
Every decision you've made in life relies on genes and experiences in which you had no say over.
The sole factor deciding your fate are your genetic and epigenetic profiles.
Every decision you've made in life relies on genes and experiences in which you had no say over.
My life is basically suffering from being born with the shittiest genetics during the shittiest era for males.
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