AlexanderTheGreat11
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Being a pedophile doesn't mean you're a sex offender
Numbers always seem arbitrary in that context. If you had said something like "after puberty it's ok", it wouldn't be so arbitrary.How is it arbitrary
Let's hope you never get accused of being a pedo then, kek.Yes. Pedos should swing from a noose. No trial, no appeal.
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only those who abuse boys. I don't care if they abuse anything with two x chromosomes
I have to say that position is very consistent with inceldom. I personally feel bad for girls as well if it was real abuse and they were actually hurt.I hate pedos but I am specially hateful of the faggot ones.
Because men who molest other men often get away with it because nobody gives a shit about a man being molested/raped
Let's hope you never get accused of being a pedo then, kek.
Isn't "sex offender" a category in which the US justice system puts any man who got reported by pretty much any outlandish sexual conduct nowadays? Like, you get reported for pulling your penis out on a bus in the presence of women, now you're a "sex offender" for life.Being a pedophile doesn't mean you're a sex offender
legit jfl at them. most pedos are trucel tiers. they will fuck over their fellow ugly men for muh "morals"Jfl so many moralfags here
The problem is they have a pretty strange idea of morality imo. Nobody can really explain why they hate someone for a reason which that person has no control over with any sort of coherent reasoning, and I'd venture to say that they hate pedophiles simply because they've been conditioned into doing so. Or they immediately associate the word pedophile with child rapist and abuser.Jfl so many moralfags here
I hate pedos but I am specially hateful of the faggot ones.
Because men who molest other men often get away with it because nobody gives a shit about a man being molested/raped
Pedophiles are potential child abusers. If they can't help it shouldn't they be institutionalized or better yet put down?The problem is they have a pretty strange idea of morality imo. Nobody can really explain why they hate someone for a reason which that person has no control over with any sort of coherent reasoning, and I'd venture to say that they hate pedophiles simply because they've been conditioned into doing so. Or they immediately associate the word pedophile with child rapist and abuser.
Imagine having a sexual perversion which meant that you could never satisfy your sexual desires, and imagine that when you try to vent about it, you're immediately ostracized as some sort of freak, despite never choosing any of this. On a similar topic, would you keep your sexual desires if you had a choice, would you have even chosen to have them in the first place? I'd easily say no, since they're little more than a torture device, and I can imagine it would be far worse if I were a pedo.
Based on this No.Pedophiles as in "adult people who simply feel romantic and/or sexual attraction towards prepubescents". Not as in "adult people who actually have sex with prepubescents".
Pedophiles are potential child abusers.
You are aware that paedophiles can be attracted to little boys too. It's not just girls that get molested.>modern society obsessed with buttsex, trannies, and general sexual depravity
>men who have a (completely natural) attraction to young girls are ousted as subhuman pedos
It doesn't add up.
That reminds of something... something I think I heard from a certain group... I think it was called "feminists" or something... ah yes, "as a male you're a potential rapist". Potentially followed by "therefore you need to be castrated/jailed/isolated/etc".Pedophiles are potential child abusers. If they can't help it shouldn't they be institutionalized or better yet put down?
I fully agree that child pornography is something bad, but people who simply download it for free from the internet should not be criminalized because they didn't contribute in any way for the crime.On top of that, they consume child pornography which was produced illegally, by forcing children into performing stressful sex acts with or in front of grown adults.
I'm very skeptic that psychology can heal anyone from anything tbh.No psychologist can heal them
I fully agree that child pornography is something bad, but people who simply download it for free from the internet should not be criminalized because they didn't contribute in any way for the crime.
Just shift the same logic to other crimes and you'll see that it makes no sense to put people in jail for simple possession. "Hey, did you just download a picture/video for free from the internet depicting someone stealing a car? You're under arrest for possession of media containing car theft!".
I'm very skeptic that psychology can heal anyone from anything tbh.
The vast majority of CP is amateur. The guy (or woman, for that matter) is already having sex with the childr(en) and usually produces just to "help" his fellow pedos, exchange it for CP from other pedos, or for exhibitionism like you said. (In the case of hardcore CP, there's even much more softcore CP produced by the minors themselves nowadays).Not to sound like a feminist but this porn would not be produced if no-one viewed it or downloaded it. Pornographers admit they are attention seekers, sometimes just getting off on the fact they have views. Even if people aren't paying the adulation through viewer feedback is enough. Its supply and demand.
So therefore I am happy if a real paedo gets thrown in the slammer for having possessing this crap.
Yes, I do. Especially those that have sexually assaulted/raped kids.
Yeah but regular men have legal consensual ways to release their natural urges, which exist in the first place in nature for the purpose of reproduction.That reminds of something... something I think I heard from a certain group... I think it was called "feminists" or something... ah yes, "as a male you're a potential rapist". Potentially followed by "therefore you need to be castrated/jailed/isolated/etc".
JUST FUCKING LOL. They downloaded it, which was probably uploaded by someone who paid for it, who knew there are other sickos like him who would download it. And there is a possibility that the producer sperged out and distributed copies for free just to benefit his fellow sickos. The very act of free downloading is indicative that people who enjoy this stuff do exist which ultimately leads to incentivization. I do agree that going after producers and distributers is better use of energy than going after every downloader, but atleast we can try to identify and isolate such people, especially from children they can potentially harm. Of course a legal infrastructure needs to exist to ensure such.I fully agree that child pornography is something bad, but people who simply download it for free from the internet should not be criminalized because they didn't contribute in any way for the crime.
Gore is not even on the same stratosphere of digusting as cp. Also most gore porn is not deliberately produced by harming someone, cp IS. And of course emotionality is involved, if a guy evenly jokingly suggested he watches cp to me, he would find his head in a short collision course with the back of my hand.It's just emotionality. "That pedo is fapping to CP, get him!" What if a person faps to gore for instance? Will you jail them as well? It's even more disgusting IMO.
Again, I don't think child pornography is something moral in any way, shape or form, but the fact is: pixels cannot be raped. Watching stuff shouldn't be a crime, period. Producing CP, yes. Profiting from CP, yes. Paying for CP, yes. Simply watching, no.Yeah but regular men have legal consensual ways to release their natural urges, which exist in the first place in nature for the purpose of reproduction.
I see no argument to be adressed here.JUST FUCKING LOL. They downloaded it, which was probably uploaded by someone who paid for it, who knew there are other sickos like him who would download it. And there is a possibility that the producer sperged out and distributed copies for free just to benefit his fellow sickos.
I'll download some videos of vegetables to incentivize the production of vegetables. Next time I go to the street market, maybe the salesman will give me some vegetables for free because I incentivized him to work, since he saw how many downloads the vegetable videos had on the internet.The very act of free downloading is indicative that people who enjoy this stuff do exist which ultimately leads to incentivization.
I'm 100% against the notion of preventively jailing a person before they harm anyone because they're a "potential" yada yada. I'm baffled that you people don't see how that could be used against people in so many ways to implement tyranny.I do agree that going after producers and distributers is better use of energy than going after every downloader, but atleast we can try to identify and isolate such people, especially from children they can potentially harm. Of course a legal infrastructure needs to exist to ensure such.
You should seriously reconsider your morals if you think someone getting their face ripped off while they scream in agony is less disgusting than some young person naked or even having sex. You sound like a huge whiteknight who selectively feels disgust for rape but not for other much, much worse stuff. Torture and death are objectively worse than rape, even if real rape, let alone statutory rape in which no real violence takes place.Gore is not even on the same stratosphere of digusting as cp.
You cannot infer what people were thinking as they produced media and use this as an argument as to why it should be legal or not for other people to just WATCH it. "Hey, I filmed myself gouging some innocent person's eyes out and uploaded on the internet, but I was thinking about how Eric Clapton is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page while doing it, so it's ok for people to download it" versus "I filmed myself having sex with an underage person and uploaded it on the internet, but I was thinking about how great it will be when so many people watch it, therefore it should be illegal for them to watch it". All this shit makes no sense whatsoever.Also most gore porn is not deliberately produced by harming someone, cp IS.
There are many repulsive behaviors in the world. If someone tells another person "hey, my mother just died horribly", and the person replies "haha sucks to be you", this is disgusting to me. Should that second person be jailed? A: no. If someone faps to actual child abuse, or to gore, or to animals being crushed, or anything of the kind, yes, it IS disgusting, I agree 100%. But the fact is, if they downloaded such media for free from the internet, they shouldn't be criminalized. Period.Please don't give lecture on ethics here. If you actually had any you wouldn't be making excuses for your disgusting habit. If that were me I would have chemically castrated myself before watching an innocent child get ruined.
What a bunch of cope and excuses. This is laughable.Again, I don't think child pornography is something moral in any way, shape or form, but the fact is: pixels cannot be raped. Watching stuff shouldn't be a crime, period. Producing CP, yes. Profiting from CP, yes. Paying for CP, yes. Simply watching, no.
I see no argument to be adressed here.
I'll download some videos of vegetables to incentivize the production of vegetables. Next time I go to the street market, maybe the salesman will give me some vegetables for free because I incentivized him to work, since he saw how many downloads the vegetable videos had on the internet.
I'm 100% against the notion of preventively jailing a person before they harm anyone because they're a "potential" yada yada. I'm baffled that you people don't see how that could be used against people in so many ways to implement tyranny.
You should seriously reconsider your morals if you think someone getting their face ripped off while they scream in agony is less disgusting than some young person naked or even having sex. You sound like a huge whiteknight who selectively feels disgust for rape but not for other much, much worse stuff. Torture and death are objectively worse than rape, even if real rape, let alone statutory rape in which no real violence takes place.
You cannot infer what people were thinking as they produced media and use this as an argument as to why it should be legal or not for other people to just WATCH it. "Hey, I filmed myself gouging some innocent person's eyes out and uploaded on the internet, but I was thinking about how Eric Clapton is a better guitarist than Jimmy Page while doing it, so it's ok for people to download it" versus "I filmed myself having sex with an underage person and uploaded it on the internet, but I was thinking about how great it will be when so many people watch it, therefore it should be illegal for them to watch it". All this shit makes no sense whatsoever.
There are many repulsive behaviors in the world. If someone tells another person "hey, my mother just died horribly", and the person replies "haha sucks to be you", this is disgusting to me. Should that second person be jailed? A: no. If someone faps to actual child abuse, or to gore, or to animals being crushed, or anything of the kind, yes, it IS disgusting, I agree 100%. But the fact is, if they downloaded such media for free from the internet, they shouldn't be criminalized. Period.
i don't care either way tbh
Lastly, I don't think pedos should be jailed JUST for possessing cp. Possessing and watching cp is abhorrently immoral for sure(as proven above) but whether it should be illegal and subject to conviction is an open question. But the thing is illegal or not, someone consuming cp is still a pedo. So he needs to be institutionalized, treated and released back into society with limited freedoms and monitoring.
Theoretically incentivizing crimes simply by watching media containing it simply downloaded from the internet shouldn't be a crime. If you apply that logic consistently, pretty much everyone needs to be jailed because I'm sure most people saw media of some crime being committed at some point. It makes no sense whatsoever to criminalize it.My point about cp was simple. By watching it you ARE incentivizing its production.
I agree with you. But immorality =/= crime per se.But the utter immorality of watching actual cp is unquestionable.
It's so obvious how full of feelings and depleted of logic you are. You're taking random assumptions and made-up categories out of your ass (hurr, cp is always done with the intention of getting attention to it, gore is not, even when it's deliberately produced by criminals) and using it as an argument. You're a pathetic whiteknight who has two different approaches to two similar things (gore and CP, both are media containing crimes). Hurr you can have 4 terabytes of innocent people being tortured in your HD but if you have a pic of CP THAT'S TOTALLY DIFFERENT because I ASSUME the person who produces CP always wants attention and the person who produces gore never wants it, durr. You're arguing from emotionality, I'm done with you.1. In most gore porn the act of violence itself is not orchestrated for the purpose of video production or views or money. Heck many times the act is not even criminal, its an accident or some such shit. (a tree fell on a man crushing him)
2. Even if the violence was deliberate and criminal, most times it is not committed for the purpose of video distribution and its consumption by gore watchers. (ISIS beheads a man)
3. In both the above cases those were violent acts which just happened to be committed, but NOT for the consumption of gore watchers. Gore watchers enjoyed it surely but their watching it does not incentivize those acts of violence.
>innocent intentions5. The cp equivalent of regular gore porn would be if you downloaded some jb photos of a young girl which her own parents or relatives or someone else uploaded with innocent intentions.
I couldn't imagine the immense amount of pain and shameful feelings that come about when and if someone is born with the imperative to be sexually attracted to children. Imagine suffering and hating yourself for basically your entire life for having desires you never wanted in the first place.
Life's cruelty knows absolutely no bounds, and it will not spare anyone who happens to roll bad when it comes to the genetic lottery. Pedophilia being one of the worst rolls you could possibly get in life.
It's case by case. They can't help having the desire, but not all of them act on it. I don't think anybody should be institutionalized just for admitting they have a problem. It's like saying that because you admit to having intrusive violent thoughts, that you're a potential threat and should be locked away just for being honest. When if anything, I'd argue that someone in that position would be a hell of a lot less likely to act on any of it, given that they admitted it publicly and all. If someone consumes actual cp, sure maybe then you could say that's where the line should be drawn.Pedophiles are potential child abusers. If they can't help it shouldn't they be institutionalized or better yet put down?
Pretty much my thoughts on it too, people are irrational.If you even so much as say you feel the smallest amount pity for these unfortunate individuals, you're immediately drawn suspect of being an awful human being and will be torn down by anyone in your vicinity.
I don't necessarily condone the violation of children, although I'm 100% for making harmless alternatives such as lolicon and sex dolls socially acceptable.
show evidenceIt is just a genetic anomaly/disorder.
What evidence? You think they have just a bad personality? And even then just look up determinism. I don't really believe in free choice. So I don't even blame people like hitler.show evidence
Tell me about your feelings towards those who never did that, but simply feel that (unchosen) attraction.
lol AM was extremely high inhib (autist) and look what he did
it’s still super super rare. Even aspies don’t kill. Also AM isn’t high inhib. 99.9999% of parents don’t kill the abusers.Its not that difficult. You just gotta have the stomach for it which most NTs don't (and they shouldn't). Calling the cops is the right step. Of course not the one I would take. All it takes is a cut on the jugular or a double barrel shot through the chest. One can always pay a hefty bribe to kill the case.
Pedophiles who act on it don’t actually want to act on it. They do it because they are afraid to talk to someone and feel isolated and feel they have nothing to lose, and consequently many try to convince themselves that little kids can be old enough for sex to feel less guilty about molesting them. They aren’t acting on it out of genuine desire to act on it, unlike situational offenders.Same, here.
While I might have some sympathy for pedophiles who understand that children are not mature enough to handle such situations and never molested a kid, because I understand it is a perversion they don’t want to have and can’t help themselves with, those who have actually gone out and molest or sexually assault kids should be publicly stoned to death.
They say racism is bad but no one chooses to be a pedophile just like no one chooses to be black or any of other race. The only advantage pedophiles have is being able to conceal it better, but for a group full of LGBTQABCD++--== people, they should know how stifling it is to have to live in secret about your sexuality without never even being able to talk about it (this is what they claim being gay is like for some people, though nowadays at the very least you'll have the internet to freely consume porn and talk about it).Love how they completely hide that mainlander was going into detail mentioning NON-offending pedophiles. And IT are the NPCs who think pedophiles and child molesters are the same thing
The NOMAP movement exists now but it’s mostly obscure and receives a lot of hateThey say racism is bad but no one chooses to be a pedophile just like no one chooses to be black or any of other race. The only advantage pedophiles have is being able to conceal it better, but for a group full of LGBTQABCD++--== people, they should know how stifling it is to have to live in secret about your sexuality without never even being able to talk about it (this is what they claim being gay is like for some people, though nowadays at the very least you'll have the internet to freely consume porn and talk about it).
Pedophiles are a million times more oppressed than gays nowadays, this is a truth no one is able to deny.
"Let's preventively jail/ostracize pedophiles because they're dangerous and might abuse some kid" is EXACTLY the same logic behind "let's preventively jail/ostracize niggers because they're violent and might commit a crime."The NOMAP movement exists now but it’s mostly obscure and receives a lot of hate
Also many pedophiles don’t act on it. And studies show that a large percentage of child molesters aren’t pedophiles and are actually teleiophiles. Many do it for reasons that have little to nothing to do with attraction like curiosity, opportunity, inceldom (I’m serious some are incel and pick some little 8 year old or something as a substitute), stress, enjoying the taboo of child molestation, etc. Also, the idea that pedophiles have a large amount of urge to act on it is a myth. If you’re a teleiophile and you see a grown up you find attractive, you don’t have an unusual urge to sexually assault them, and it’s the same with pedophiles but their attraction is to prepubescent children. Who you’re attracted to has zero effect on how likely you’ll act on it. Saying pedophiles will inevitably act on it is like saying married men will inevitably cheat or heterosexual teleiophilic men will inevitably rape women. And many pedophiles who act on it only do because they’re afraid to talk to someone, they feel isolated, they feel they have nothing to lose, they lose control and act on it. Many will even try to convince themselves that children are old enough for sex to feel less guilty."Let's preventively jail/ostracize pedophiles because they're dangerous and might abuse some kid" is EXACTLY the same logic behind "let's preventively jail/ostracize niggers because they're violent and might commit a crime."
Yes, a pedophile is more likely to touch a child, just as a black person is statistically more likely to commit crimes, but that doesn't mean ALL do or that we should preventively jail people because of those unchosen characteristics.
High IQ.Also many pedophiles don’t act on it. And studies show that a large percentage of child molesters aren’t pedophiles and are actually teleiophiles. Many do it for reasons that have little to nothing to do with attraction like curiosity, opportunity, inceldom (I’m serious some are incel and pick some little 8 year old or something as a substitute), stress, enjoying the taboo of child molestation, etc. Also, the idea that pedophiles have a large amount of urge to act on it is a myth. If you’re a teleiophile and you see a grown up you find attractive, you don’t have an unusual urge to sexually assault them, and it’s the same with pedophiles but their attraction is to prepubescent children. Who you’re attracted to has zero effect on how likely you’ll act on it. Saying pedophiles will inevitably act on it is like saying married men will inevitably cheat or heterosexual teleiophilic men will inevitably rape women. And many pedophiles who act on it only do because they’re afraid to talk to someone, they feel isolated, they feel they have nothing to lose, they lose control and act on it. Many will even try to convince themselves that children are old enough for sex to feel less guilty.
Yep. Even sexologists like Michael seto, James cantor, Fred Berlin, etc. all experts on this topic, have confirmed that sexual attraction to jb teens is normal among men. Studies I’ve read confirmed it’s normal. And we aren’t attracted to age, we are attracted to physical appearance, our biology/sexuality doesn’t respond to laws. When girls get to 15-17 they often look like they’re 22 or somethingHigh IQ.
The most difficult to swallow pill is that most men ARE pedophiles if you define pedophilia as the possibility of getting attracted to underage women, even if prepubescent, as shown in the data posted ITT. Attraction is mainly about face, if it was mainly about body, adult flat-chested and -butted women would be incels and we all know that's not the case.
What we usually call "pedophiles" is better definied as people who PREFER children over adult women, which yes, are a minority among men. The average man can feel attraction towards pubescents or even prepubescents in some cases, but is more attracted by females fresh out of puberty, like mid teens to early 20s. There are also the exclusive pedophiles which are a really tiny minority. I'm 100% sure most child abuse is not done by exclusive pedophiles, very likely not even by people who prefer children over pubescents and post-pubescents, like you said.
MEN ARE HORNY AS SHIT. This is what women won't ever understand. Most men can get it up to females far from their actual preferences in terms of age, race, weight, attractiveness, etc.
That's so obvious it baffles me how people don't understand it.Yep. Even sexologists like Michael seto, James cantor, Fred Berlin, etc. all experts on this topic, have confirmed that sexual attraction to jb teens is normal among men. Studies I’ve read confirmed it’s normal. And we aren’t attracted to age, we are attracted to physical appearance, our biology/sexuality doesn’t respond to laws. When girls get to 15-17 they often look like they’re 22 or something