I personally like Taxi Driver more but Joker 2019 is also good. Joker 2 is dogshit though.
Im not sure, probably taxi driver
Taxi Driver a great film even if it's not about inceldom.
Joker is mediocre.
Joker is mediocre.
DNW it and not planning to
Joker was the better film by far, and I was laughing at the backlash, mostly from liberals.
Taxi driver
Both are good
taxi driver
True
Very good film
Joker never would have come out if it weren't for Taxi Driver. If anything, it's a spiritual sequel to Taxi Driver (Martin Scorsese and Robert DeNiro were both involved in Joker's production, which I don't think was a coincidence.)
I personally think Taxi Driver is better
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Have you seen King of comedy?
Exactly
Yes good movie
Yeah, Joker misses all the nuance of Taxi Driver and blames a boogieman, ie, capitalism. Taxi Driver is about a socially isolated, obviously non-NT man who can't fit in, who has violent urges and needs to take them out. The film makes a point to show that who he takes it out on doesn't really matter, he's satisfying the same instinct either way.
Travis is more relatable outside of being attractive to women. I especially relate to the scene where he's silently watching the people talk at the restaurant and awkwardly responding in-between day dreaming zoning out.
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What about gay niggers from outer space? JFL
Very relatable character
I have heard of it never watched
Taxi Driver was the better movie.
I prefer Joker but both are great films and objectively speaking, Taxi Driver is probably better
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Agreed
Joker was obviously a left leaning film so it's funny they couldn't see the obvious messages about capitalism bad. It's funny that the real life event that inspired joker, was a bunch of blacks attacking a guy on a subway who ended up killing them in self defense. New York rallied around him because how high black on white crime was. Ofc the jew director swaps out the blacks for rich young white men sexually harassing a woman.
You were very clearly supposed to sympathize with the rioters rebelling against capitalism.
I believe the reason why the second movie decides to humiliate Joker is because the director saw how beloved the character had become by incels and lonely outcast men. It didn't receive the reception from leftists that he had hoped for as they were ironically too obsessed with incels to see what the movie was about.
Spot on
Thank you mate, I like your edits
Appreciate it
Yep, the riots in the film also helped inspire the George Floyd riots irl
Those who like Taxi Driver tend to be doomers and fakecels.
I haven't watched movies in the past decade.
I haven't watched movies in the past decade.
That is interesting
TBH, I've only seem clips from Taxi driver, and they were decent.
I wouldn't say that I just think lots of people like the movie regardless if they are incel or not
I’ve never seen Taxi Driver sadly
I recommend
Very good movie
Really? They were already having riots like that in 2015 if I remember right. Racial riots have been a thing for decades, it's just that now you have more politically obsessed whites joining in them.
I agree
Joker being a left leaning movie isn't necessarily a bad thing, Arthur Fleck himself doesn't really give a shit about the movement just like how Travis Bickle didn't care about what that politician stood for either, both just wanted to express their pent-up frustration and rage with society as a whole, both of them were pleased by being idolized by normies and the notoriety that came with their actions even if they didn't believe in what they did
Also, I feel like switching out blacks for rich young white men sexually harassing a woman was the right call and made the movie better from an incel perspective. Those guys were chad richfags who are openly terrible people yet they still lead happy lives, all of them probably had loving girlfriends and families too. If it was just a bunch of niggers attacking him it would've just riled up the stormfrontcels
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If I remember correctly some of the rioters wore the clown masks from the film. Ofc the riots would have happened without the film, but the movie probably contributed to the fact that many people felt sympathy for the rioters and saw them as the "people" rising up against the alleged oppressors or whatever.
I agree in a way
I feel like jokers riots in the movie are more justified than any of the BLM riots
Arthur Fleck obviously does care about how the upper class treats him. There's multiple points in the movie where he's treated badly by upper class rich men leading up to the movie's climax. Those rich men on the subway weren't portrayed as being attractive, they were depicted as rapist thugs.
It's not that relatable to incels outside of Arthur being an outcast who's bullied and ignored. My issue is it pins almost all of Arthur's issues on wealthy upper class men. It conveniently avoids him lashing out at normies or women outside of the ending where he kills the therapist.
Not surprised.
Of course, but he was treated poorly by everyone, people of all economic and social classes treated him like trash, I don't think he cared about the movement as a whole necessarily because he saw firsthand how horrible ALL normies are towards non-NT and ugly framecels like him
At the start of the movie, he gets harassed by teenagers who are as poor as him and his co-worker who is also poor betrays him and throws him under the bus
I think incels can also relate to him sparing the dwarf, Arthur Fleck felt a sense of brotherhood with him and spared him because he was a truecel who was shat on and bullied by society just like him
Maybe not the director's intention to portray them as attractive but they were still well-groomed and played by genetically gifted actors
Also goes to show that chads can get away with anything simply because of their looks, that girl was probably into it and wanted them to rape her even if the director and writers would never admit such a thing
I think him daydreaming about a relationship with his neighbor and having a shitty abusive mom is probably relatable to most of us too
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i much prefer taxi driver although i still love joker
whatever 1999 is the best blackpill film though
whatever 1999 is the best blackpill film though
Joker is our incel movie tbh. Taxi driver is some boomer fantasy power trip white knight shit.
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