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Just curious to see what you guys think.

Is it even possible to create life without people suffering?

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Yes, but as long as creation has the free will its going to corrupt eventually.
 
 
Do you believe in free will?
Yes. We make choices all the time, small ones but still. Some choices are harder due to circumstances and brain chemistry. Theres always free will. We are limited by others and physical capabilities, not our will.
 
Yes. We make choices all the time, small ones but still. Some choices are harder due to circumstances and brain chemistry. Theres always free will. We are limited by others and physical capabilities, not our will.
But if we have no control over our physical capabilities then is that really much of a choice at all?
 
But if we have no control over our physical capabilities then is that really much of a choice at all?
We dont have the free opportunities, we have the free will. We cant do stuff not because of our mind and will but because of the circumstances.
 
We dont have the free opportunities, we have the free will. We cant do stuff not because of our mind and will but because of the circumstances.
But since our circumstances and opportunities are limited based on the materialistic world then we have very little say with what we can do with our lives.
 
no matter how good your world is, there will always be those who will take advantage, lie, manipulate, control, and kill for their own power. human nature is the problem but if you changed human nature itself you would still be creating a flawed existence
 
But since our circumstances and opportunities are limited based on the materialistic world then we have very little say with what we can do with our lives.
I would say that most barriers in our lives are limited by other people and their rules, and they made all that due to their free will.
 
Then why create life at all? :feelshehe:
Because life in of itself needs suffering to be a thing at all. Life is essentially reaction to stimuli, and suffering is just as essential to life as happiness and joy is.
 
Well, in origin, mankind was imortal, nature was endless. Untill corruption, everthing that could be was.
 
Because life in of itself needs suffering to be a thing at all. Life is essentially reaction to stimuli, and suffering is just as essential to life as happiness and joy is.
This reads like pure cope brother :feelshaha::feelshaha:

You don't believe that people could live without suffering?

What about people in heaven? How do they live?
 
Because life in of itself needs suffering to be a thing at all. Life is essentially reaction to stimuli, and suffering is just as essential to life as happiness and joy is.
Women never suffer usually
 
Yes, but religion copers will often say:
'This world is a test'.
 
Well, in origin, mankind was imortal, nature was endless. Untill corruption, everthing that could be was.
But if corruption is caused by the physical realm of existence then we were never immortal in the first place.

That is if things are pretermined in life.
 
Yes, but as long as creation has the free will its going to corrupt eventually.
Humanity is already corrupted since the beginning of Adam and Eve, cause she took the bait
 
But they don’t actually suffer, so it proves my point.
They do, as all living beings do, in my opinion. There's no objectivity in this regard because it's impossible to quantify and measure "suffering". I can probably handle being called a faggot and a stupid nigger, but some people would suffer from it. It's subjective.
 
They do, as all living beings do, in my opinion. There's no objectivity in this regard because it's impossible to quantify and measure "suffering". I can probably handle being called a faggot and a stupid nigger, but some people would suffer from it. It's subjective.
Their suffering is very minimal. So minuscule it might as well not exist
 
I don't.

They're not alive, are they? They're dead. In heaven.
What does it even mean to be alive?

Do you believe that consciousness cannot exist outside of the body?
 
Humanity is already corrupted since the beginning of Adam and Eve, cause she took the bait
It was bound to happen, free will creates greed because everyone wants to be on top, if they didnt sin, the next generation would and so on. Satan saw the glory of God and was already in the highest heaven, still wasnt enough for him.
 
To react to external stimuli

How would I know? Does it even matter?
Because if consciousness is the reaction to external stimuli, and if you can experience consciousness outside of the body, then you are still therefore living, thus meaning that you can live without suffering :feelsokman:
 
Because if consciousness is the reaction to external stimuli, and if you can experience consciousness outside of the body, then you are still therefore living, thus meaning that you can live without suffering :feelsokman:
And how can you confirm or deny that you can experience consciousness outside the body?
 
It was bound to happen, free will creates greed because everyone wants to be on top, if they didnt sin, the next generation would and so on. Satan saw the glory of God and was already in the highest heaven, still wasnt enough for him.
But if satan saw the glory of God in the highest of heavens and it still wasn't enough for him why is that?

Pride of course, but pride for what?

No disrespect to anyone who's a Christian because I understand where you're coming from, I just have so many questions.
 
And how can you confirm or deny that you can experience consciousness outside the body?
Because energy can neither be created nor destroyed, and the soul (if it exists) is energy in its truest form.
 
Pride of course, but pride for what?
He was the prettiest of the creations, Bible describes him as perfect in every sense and as such he thought that he is closer to the One God than to other Angels. He wanted to be God.
 
He was the prettiest of the creations, Bible describes him as perfect in every sense and as such he thought that he is closer to the One God than to other Angels. He wanted to be God.
So dissatisfaction more so then anything is how the devil fell :feelshehe:
 
No you didn't. You just made an unrelated statement about energy, completely unrelated to how ""souls"" work, or even if they exist at all.
Souls could be one of two things. Either they are the creation of God himself and therefore come from God, or we have always existed, just like god, and are thus here as prisoners.

A soul trap :feelsthink:
 
Souls could be one of two things. Either they are the creation of God himself and therefore come from God, or we have always existed, just like god, and are thus here as prisoners.

A soul trap :feelsthink:
But every prison has its key, and when our life ends, we leave this material realm behind.
 

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